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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

vi is also trash

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:19

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

theres no such thing as a good linux text editor. even nano/pico fucks up simple poo poo like save vs save as.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:20

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

I dunno vim is pretty good though I think there could be better 3rd party autocomplete support

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:26

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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i just use xcode

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:28

jooky: Jan 15, 2003

i just use sublime text 2 because it suits my needs

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:35

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

vi ffor sysadmin
emacs for 'grammin nerd poo poo

intellij for making money

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:42

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

rotor posted:

why does the ide matter at all

That depends if your IDE is using so much RAM there's no space for your code to run.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:42

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Zombywuf posted:

That depends if your IDE is using so much RAM there's no space for your code to run.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:45

salted hash browns: Mar 26, 2007; ykrop

sublime text 2

suits. my. needs.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:49

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

I give IntelliJ 1.5G of heap...and yet...somehow that's not very much??? What years is this? Halp my computer is broken it says 8G RAM but my computer has 8M only and when I looked in PC magazine last week EDO ram was $6/M! There's no way I have $50000 of RAM in my computer!!,

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:57

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

salted hash browns posted:

sublime text 2

suits. my. needs.

its cool that you have such minimal needs

# ? Oct 8, 2012 20:58

Sweeper: Nov 29, 2007; The Joe Buck of Posting; Dinosaur Gum

rotor posted:

its cool that you have such minimal needs

its actually a v. good text editor

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:03

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

rotor posted:

its cool that you have such minimal needs

it really is

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:05

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Sweeper posted:

its actually a v. good text editor

yeah, like i said

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:06

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

fidel sarcastro posted:

it really is

i know it seems like i was but i was not being sarcastic

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:07

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

Man, I just looked up the features of Sublime Text 2. It's so cute.

Goto Anything - ido mode and non-interactive search, together at last!

Multiple Selections - what a stunningly complicated way to do search and replace.

Command Palette - a tab completing command line...

Distraction free mode - how about not filling up the display with useless crap guys.

Split Editing - WHAT IS THIS SPACE TECHNOLOGY?

Plugin API - is this even worth listing as a feature in a text editor anymore?

Customise Anything - well isn't that nice.

Cross Platform - really scraping the barrel to find something to fill the whitespace at the bottom of the page with this one.

From this I can only conclude that Emacs is the pinacle of text editing technology and everything else is just catching up.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:10

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

rotor posted:

i know it seems like i was but i was not being sarcastic

i'm gonna chalk this one up to too much shaggarin' in this thread. no one can tell the difference anymore

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:10

Rufus Ping: Dec 27, 2006; I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano

Zombywuf posted:

Multiple Selections - what a stunningly complicated way to do search and replace.

your an idiot. cheers

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:13

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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"it's george costanza" ?>

Zombywuf posted:

Man, I just looked up the features of Sublime Text 2. It's so cute.

Goto Anything - ido mode and non-interactive search, together at last!

Multiple Selections - what a stunningly complicated way to do search and replace.

Command Palette - a tab completing command line...

Distraction free mode - how about not filling up the display with useless crap guys.

Split Editing - WHAT IS THIS SPACE TECHNOLOGY?

Plugin API - is this even worth listing as a feature in a text editor anymore?

Customise Anything - well isn't that nice.

Cross Platform - really scraping the barrel to find something to fill the whitespace at the bottom of the page with this one.

From this I can only conclude that Emacs is the pinacle of text editing technology and everything else is just catching up.

Where's this from

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:36

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

vapid cutlery posted:

Where's this from

My own diseased mind.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:47

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

sublime text 2 for simple stuff / your own code and pycharms for other people's code

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:47

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

if you're using a text editor its not code.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:52

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

Real coders use a hex editor to write binaries directly.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:53

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

current java status: velocity rules.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:54

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

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"it's george costanza" ?>

Real programmers at least write native code, etc etc kill me

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:55

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Shaggar posted:

if you're using a text editor its not code.

this except the literal opposite

# ? Oct 8, 2012 21:58

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

Zombywuf posted:

Real coders use a hex editor to write binaries directly.

so.... is it just me???

# ? Oct 8, 2012 22:07

X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

Tiny Bug Child posted:

this except the literal opposite

# ? Oct 8, 2012 22:09

X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

gently caress i just agreed with tiny bug child

# ? Oct 8, 2012 22:09

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

i write hex files but they're not for code, welp

# ? Oct 8, 2012 22:09

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

i write hex files because i have a side job as a witch

# ? Oct 8, 2012 22:11

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

I write raw hex because I have a side job as a switch.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 22:49

dragon enthusiast: Jan 1, 2010

Zombywuf posted:

I write raw hex because I have a side job as a switch.

# ? Oct 8, 2012 23:05

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

i have written one program in hexadecimal. :smug:

# ? Oct 8, 2012 23:25

All Hat: Jul 11, 2008; He that is without int among you, let him first cast a long

what'd it do

# ? Oct 8, 2012 23:28

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

probably print a hex program

# ? Oct 8, 2012 23:29

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

All Hat posted:

what'd it do

probably wrote "hello world", if I did it more recently it would say "butts"

i think it was actually just writing assembly and hex editing it

http://illegalargumentexception.blogspot.co.uk/2008/05/assembler-using-debugexe-to-write-dos.html

# ? Oct 8, 2012 23:33

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

this is beautiful

quote:

Lisp Without a Brain

If in reading this introduction, you've come to realize that "Hey, Tcl is just like Lisp, but without a brain, and with syntax on steroids", you might wonder why Lisp isn't a more popular scripting language than Tcl. Lisp hasn't been a complete failure, by the way; it is used as an extension language by users of some popular programs, notably AutoCAD. But Tcl has been much more successful. It has been compiled into hundreds of larger programs, including AOLserver, which is why we wrote this book.
As a software developer, you're unlikely to get rich. So you might as well try to get through your life in such a way that you make a difference to the world. Tcl illustrates one way:

make something that is simple enough for almost everyone to understand
give away your source code
explain how to weave your source code in with other systems
In the case of AOLserver, for example, Jim Davidson and Doug McKee had only a few months to build the whole server from scratch. They wanted users to be able to write small programs that ran inside the server process. They therefore needed a safe interpreted language so that a programming error by one user didn't crash the server and bring down all the Web services for an organization.
Tcl was available. Tcl was easy to download and designed to fit inside larger application programs. But the Tcl interpreter as distributed had one terrible bug: it wasn't thread safe, i.e., you couldn't have two copies of the Tcl interpreter running inside the same program at the same time. Doug and Jim had to read through the Tcl source code and modify it to be thread safe. So it was critically important for them that Tcl was open-source and simple enough so as to not require months or years of study to understand the whole system.

Compare this to Lisp. Some of the best and brightest computer scientists raised money to build commercial Lisp implementations that they then went out and hawked in an indifferent and confused marketplace. They succeeded only in breaking their hearts and their investors' wallets. A handful of academics produced free open-source implementations, notably CMU Common Lisp (see http://www.cons.org/cmucl/) and various versions of Scheme (see the links from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheme_(programming_language); Scheme 48 is the closest to Tcl in spirit). But these multi-megabyte monsters weren't designed to fit neatly into someone else's program. Nor was there any document explaining how to do it.

Lisp developers have the satisfaction of knowing that they got it right 30 years before anyone else. But that's about all they have to show for 40 years of hard work and hundreds of millions of dollars in government and private funding. These days, most former Lisp programmers are stuck using Unix and Microsoft programming environments and, not only do they have to put up with these inferior environments, but they're saddled with the mournful knowledge that these environments are inferior.

bitter caremad lisp programmers angry that making something people understand and can use is better than making something ~perfect~

# ? Oct 9, 2012 02:56

ants on my cum rag: Sep 2, 2011; "Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~

a witch cursed me with hex but luckily my family saved me with good ol' html

# ? Oct 9, 2012 03:06

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MononcQc: May 29, 2007

For Everyone:
Racket is an awesome lisp, maybe the best?

for Common Lispers:
Racket is an awesome lisp, maybe the bestp

# ? Oct 9, 2012 03:12

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