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Hello SV thread! I've been riding mine for about a year now. A few weeks ago, it wouldn't start so I bought a new battery and put it in this weekend. It started just fine and I let it warm up for a bit and tried to take off. The second I shifted out of neutral into first it died. Now it flashes F1 on the console when I turn the engine on and if I try to start it it won't turn over. I know next to nothing about fixing motorcycles (and don't even know how I'd get it to a mechanic.) Any good resources out there? Also feel free to ask any questions I might not have addressed because I am completely new at this. EDIT: I just learned how to access dealer mode and checked the error code. I got c00, or no defective part. No I really have no idea where to go from here. Harriet Carker fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 9, 2012 |
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Oct 9, 2012 04:21
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Was your kickstand down? When you go to start it, does it sound like it's trying to turn over, or does nothing happen?
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Oct 9, 2012 05:12
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AncientTV posted:Was your kickstand down? My kickstand was down when I read the error code but not when I tried to ride and shift into first. It does sound like the engine is trying to turn over. If I stop trying for a few hours and come back, it will start right away but always dies when I try to ride.
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Oct 9, 2012 05:15
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Does it always die right when you shift it into first? edit: Probably should've asked this first, did you charge the battery before you tossed it in the bike?
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Oct 9, 2012 05:20
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dantheman650 posted:don't even know how I'd get it to a mechanic.) Any good resources out there? Put out an ad on Craigslist saying you need a bike towed. There are plenty of people with ramps/trailers/tie downs that would love to make a quick 40 bucks towing your poo poo.
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Oct 9, 2012 14:03
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Uhaul's trailer is 15 bux/day if you own a truck or have access to one. You'll need your own tie downs though.
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Oct 9, 2012 14:36
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AncientTV posted:Does it always die right when you shift it into first? The guy at the shop charged it for me. It does always die right when I shift into first. Thanks for the towing suggestions. If I can't figure it out in the next couple of days I'll look into those ideas.
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Oct 9, 2012 15:08
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Sounds kind of like a defective kickstand switch, it's hard to tell without more details though.
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Oct 9, 2012 16:23
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AncientTV posted:Sounds kind of like a defective kickstand switch, it's hard to tell without more details though. This. Defective clutch or kickstand switch. Look for busted wires, and try jumping the connectors.
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Oct 9, 2012 19:07
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Z3n posted:This. Defective clutch or kickstand switch. Look for busted wires, and try jumping the connectors. OR MAYBE YOUR FRIENDS WIFE BROKE IT! (No, z3n's wife just happened to get on my 675 when the kickstand switch wiring decided to snap)
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Oct 9, 2012 19:12
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Update: It's definitely not the kickstand switch. Today I was able to start it just fine, shift into first, and ride about 10 feet before it abruptly died and started displaying F1 again. I tried to start it and the engine was trying to turn over. I gave it a few minutes and was able to start it again no problem, but the exact same thing happened. Any new ideas?
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Oct 10, 2012 02:57
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If it's abruptly dying without any winding-down type behavior and then intermittently not starting, it's definitely an electrical cut-off acting up. It may still be the kickstand or clutch switch shorting out. If you're comfortable doing it, pull the relevant connectors and check for corrosion or busted wires like z3n said.
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Oct 10, 2012 04:36
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AncientTV posted:If it's abruptly dying without any winding-down type behavior and then intermittently not starting, it's definitely an electrical cut-off acting up. It may still be the kickstand or clutch switch shorting out. Sounds good. I'm not comfortable doing it but I've got a riding buddy coming over Friday who knows his way around. Thanks for all the help so far, I'll report back soon! Here's my ride in its natural habitat (ie. not sadly resting in the garage) 
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Oct 10, 2012 04:56
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Hey presto, now I have an SV650 with problems I wish it were just a bum switch 
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Oct 10, 2012 05:18
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dantheman650 posted:Update: It's definitely not the kickstand switch. Today I was able to start it just fine, shift into first, and ride about 10 feet before it abruptly died and started displaying F1 again. I tried to start it and the engine was trying to turn over. I gave it a few minutes and was able to start it again no problem, but the exact same thing happened. Any new ideas? This might not help much, but it's not displaying F1, it's displaying FI meaning it thinks there's a problem with the fuel injection. I've had it flash up once before after I actually laid it on it's side paddling through a U-turn and it wouldn't start for a couple of minutes afterwards  If it was an issue with the kickstand sensor it'd be displaying CHEK / CHEC (can't remember the spelling off the top of my head). It does the same for the cut off switch too - which is another embarrassing story of me panicking in a car park for quarter of an hour after a bastard of a friend had surreptitiously hit it while we were chatting.
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Oct 10, 2012 17:01
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Interestingly enough, it only shows F1 after it dies and I try to start it unsuccessfully. It does show CHEC when I first turn the ignition on and turn on the kill switch though.
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Oct 10, 2012 17:18
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ReformedNiceGuy posted:This might not help much, but it's not displaying F1, it's displaying FI meaning it thinks there's a problem with the fuel injection. A "problem with the fuel injector" can also be caused by the bike randomly dying when the shutout engages and disengages and kills the ECU for a second. That can happen when the wires are frayed and intermittently grounding.
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Oct 10, 2012 17:22
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Z3n posted:A "problem with the fuel injector" can also be caused by the bike randomly dying when the shutout engages and disengages and kills the ECU for a second. That can happen when the wires are frayed and intermittently grounding. I wasn't arguing against any advice you guys have given - you all know a hell of a lot more about bikes than me. Just hoping that by pointing out the FI thing it might give him some idea on where to start.
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Oct 10, 2012 19:26
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ReformedNiceGuy posted:I wasn't arguing against any advice you guys have given - you all know a hell of a lot more about bikes than me. Just hoping that by pointing out the FI thing it might give him some idea on where to start. Right - the problem is that electrical symptoms get really strange when you start dealing with intermittent cutouts, so the FI light isn't as meaningful as it is when it shows up consistently. It's pretty common for an FI light to come on when you stall the bike as well. The not starting thing was probably the tipover switch...which is, incidentally, another thing that might be worth checking if the clutch/kickstand switches don't fix it.
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Oct 10, 2012 20:09
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What color is the loving tach wire that goes to the gauge cluster? Does anyone have a not-lovely wiring diagram for a k4 S model?
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Oct 11, 2012 03:09
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For colors, does this help? http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/sv/sunpro-tach.php About half way down lists: Brown (running light) or Red/White (continuous live) Black/White Stripe (ground) Black/Yellow Stripe (tachometer lead) Brown (running light) or Yellow or White (high/low beam)
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Oct 11, 2012 06:31
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AncientTV posted:Hey presto, now I have an SV650 with problems Honestly that's not bad, my $200 SV came in boxes and milk crates. If you need any misc parts let me know...turns out I had some extra parts and hardware in those boxes.
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Oct 11, 2012 14:00
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AncientTV posted:Hey presto, now I have an SV650 with problems If you want stock speedo/tach cluster I'll sell you mine.
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Oct 11, 2012 15:43
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invision posted:If you want stock speedo/tach cluster I'll sell you mine. I'll take it.. edit: wait, are the 2nd gen gauges compatible with 1st gens? NitroSpazzz posted:Honestly that's not bad, my $200 SV came in boxes and milk crates. If you need any misc parts let me know...turns out I had some extra parts and hardware in those boxes. ..and could you PM me with what you have? double edit: Has anyone had experience with the $30 eBay special shorty levers? I don't really need a pair, but the adjustability would be nice. AncientTV fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 11, 2012 16:19
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AncientTV posted:I'll take it.. I think you can make them compatible, but they're not very compatible off the bat.
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Oct 11, 2012 17:01
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AncientTV posted:..and could you PM me with what you have? AncientTV posted:double edit: Has anyone had experience with the $30 eBay special shorty levers? I don't really need a pair, but the adjustability would be nice.
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Oct 11, 2012 18:38
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AncientTV posted:double edit: Has anyone had experience with the $30 eBay special shorty levers? I don't really need a pair, but the adjustability would be nice. My gf's SV has gold shorties, and she loves them. I liked the brake lever, but I thought the clutch lever was too short (strange because our hands are about the same size). I think a long clutch lever and short brake lever would complement each other very well. Also, I just received a new pair of these, both in normal length, for my SV, after I dropped the bike on its left side. So far I've got only the clutch lever on there and it's not bad. A bit thick. I'd prefer levers that are a bit thinner and more tubular in design, but that's just me. Rather squarish in feel. Next time I'll go for long GSXR OEM levers.
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Oct 11, 2012 19:23
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Ebay levers are fine. They're 9/10 as good as Pazzo's, etc. imo. One thing to watch for is that they usually never fit that great and so have a lot of play in them. You can try making a new spacer to put in the pivot bolt hole that will take up some slack hopefully.
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Oct 11, 2012 19:33
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I haven't used ebay levers because I scored a set of ASV levers from a junkyard for like 20 bucks, but I'll never own another bike without aftermarket levers on it. They make a huge difference. Also I have a k4 SVs gauge cluster for sale with something like 28k miles on it.
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Oct 12, 2012 05:07
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I'm trying to find a SV650 in the Los Angeles / Orange County area for < $3k, and the best I've seen recently is a 2005 SV650s with 38k miles that was used for commuting for $2600. I don't know much about bikes, but I'd prefer a newer, higher mileage bike that was in constant use over an older, lower mileage bike that sat a lot. Does this make sense for a bike? And is that a decent enough price? I'm guessing I could get it for a couple hundred less, but either way it seems to be the best deal around. It also looks to be fairly stock (as far as I can tell), except for a tinted windscreen.
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Oct 12, 2012 05:12
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That's a decent deal, although, like you said, you could shoot for $2400ish. My guess is that he would take it if you had the cash in hand. And that does make sense if it's been relatively well kept, especially since it isn't too rare for these engines to last upwards of 100k miles.
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Oct 12, 2012 05:18
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Z3n posted:The not starting thing was probably the tipover switch...which is, incidentally, another thing that might be worth checking if the clutch/kickstand switches don't fix it. Thank you! The tipover switch was the culprit. I dislodged it when I put the new battery in, not even realizing it. A small piece of duct tape later, I'm back in business! Thanks again to everyone who helped me diagnose the problem.
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Oct 13, 2012 02:21
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dantheman650 posted:Thank you! The tipover switch was the culprit. I dislodged it when I put the new battery in, not even realizing it. A small piece of duct tape later, I'm back in business!  Team effort wins again!
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Oct 13, 2012 06:34
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Selling off things I'm taking off of the bike. I'll get pics in a few. All of this is for a 2nd gen sv650s k6 solo cowl k4 rear seat k4 rear seat/cowl locking mechanism k4 gauge cluster + bent mounting bracket k4 upper fairing + headlights + windscreen. It was highsided so it's kinda screwed up, but with a not-bent mounting bracket I honestly don't think it would look that bad. Headlights work as they should. Comes with flushmount LED turn signals already installed. k4 mirrors Pretty sure I still have extra OEM levers also. Make offers on stuff. ===================================================================================== 98 cbr 600 parts Smoked windscreen in excellent condition rear tire hugger/chain guard Posted in the for sale thread also.
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Oct 13, 2012 18:23
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AncientTV posted:I'll take it.. Sorry I'm an idiot and forgot to do this. In WI for two weeks. I'll dig through the parts when I get back.
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Oct 15, 2012 18:36
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NitroSpazzz posted:Sorry I'm an idiot and forgot to do this. In WI for two weeks. I'll dig through the parts when I get back. It's all good, I'm having to wait for my next paycheck anyways.
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Oct 15, 2012 21:26
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Is there any good reason for anyone to buy a stock 2nd gen muffler? I have the one that was sawn off by the PO and I wonder if I should bother trying to sell it.
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Oct 21, 2012 00:40
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Today I invited an out-of-state friend over to have him ride my ZX6R with dirt bike bars & comfort mods, and my gf's sv650. He has had a year's experience on a Ninja 250. He rode the ZX6r mainly, for 25 minutes which included a jaunt on the highway. I had him switch with me for a few minutes (gf had forbidden him from riding her machine but manhood reigned). Upon finishing the ride, I asked him what his preferred ride was. Of course... the sv650.
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Oct 21, 2012 03:48
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Sometimes I wish I were short so I could ride one again. I can't even kick my heels up onto the pegs. 
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Oct 21, 2012 05:54
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Crossposting from the sale thread: FS: SV650s k4 blue lower fairings in close-to-perfect condition. A few rock chips are the only thing wrong with them. $500 obo. I'll include the mounting hardware for a little extra since it's kind of a pain to pull the hardware off of the bike.  
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Oct 21, 2012 19:51
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