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Is it weird to cross shop an e46 M3 (ZCP) and a 335i? For about $25-30k I can get a good example of both. But my dilemma is I've been driving a ZHP for years, and don't like the idea of spending that much money to get an upgraded version of the same e46 I've been driving. It'll be like buying $15-20k in upgrades for my current car. Keeps the same interior/vintage/exterior. I'm sure the M3 is more fun, but I'm afraid the new car itch will come much quicker if I buy another e46. I like to keep my cars for at least 4-5 years, and I'm not sure another e46 will make it that long. Does this logic make sense to anyone but me? I guess ultimately it's a personal problem. I wish the 1M was a realistic option, that would be a no brainer.
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The only way I'd pay $30K for an E46 M3 is if it had the Blowjob on Command option installed, factory.
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Oct 10, 2012 02:30
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Yeah, 30k is seriously low-mileage e46 m3 territory these days. 12-15 gets you a high mileage car with decent history and 20k gets you into the ~60,000mi range with good history. Do you plan to track it, at all? The 335i is honestly going to be way less annoying to drive on a daily basis and you won't miss the LSD on the street, or care about limp mode after a few laps. Of course if you ask me the E46 looks a shitload better than anything BMW has come out with recently.
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Oct 10, 2012 03:39
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Crustashio posted:Yeah, 30k is seriously low-mileage e46 m3 territory these days. 12-15 gets you a high mileage car with decent history and 20k gets you into the ~60,000mi range with good history. If I could get an M3 with under 70k miles for 20k that would make this decision easier. But stock 6-Speed coupes in SoCal are all over $25k. I think the M-Sport 335i coupe looks great, and those pop up for $30k semi-regularly. I've driven both and they're both great, for different reasons. I don't plan to track either, but I also don't commute and most of my monthly mileage is on a motorcycle, so both would be classified as "fun" cars.
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Oct 10, 2012 03:56
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ynotony posted:If I could get an M3 with under 70k miles for 20k that would make this decision easier. But stock 6-Speed coupes in SoCal are all over $25k. I think the M-Sport 335i coupe looks great, and those pop up for $30k semi-regularly. Are you dead set on getting a ZCP M3? You're right about the $25-30k prices for the nicest ZCPs but I've found that the basic M3s have dropped a lot in price over the last few years, and it's not too hard to find one with 70-80k on the odo for less than $20k. At least around here (northeast).
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Oct 10, 2012 06:02
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If you're asking this question you're probably better off with the 335i.
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Oct 10, 2012 09:33
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IMO, if you're looking at dropping $20-30k on an enthusiast car you shouldn't keep your search just to your local area. Even factoring in the cost of a 1 way plane ticket or getting the car shipped to your area you should be able to save a significant amount of money considering where you live.
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Oct 10, 2012 15:06
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ynotony posted:Is it weird to cross shop an e46 M3 (ZCP) and a 335i? For about $25-30k I can get a good example of both. But my dilemma is I've been driving a ZHP for years, and don't like the idea of spending that much money to get an upgraded version of the same e46 I've been driving. It'll be like buying $15-20k in upgrades for my current car. Keeps the same interior/vintage/exterior. I guess financially it makes sense but the E46 from a handling and steering feel perspective is more rewarding to drive than a stock E90. I strongly preferred my E46 and my white E92 M3 with the upgraded suspension bits to my blue E92 and other 335s I've driven, I think the E9x stock handling setup leaves something to be desired. Having lots of experience with both generations and models I'd go for the E46 M3 but shop outside of California. Too many people in CA hold onto those cars (a certain group of people especially) and want too much money for them.
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Oct 10, 2012 15:42
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Would anyone with ye olde shoppe manuale for the E90 be willing to scan the section on front / rear brake service (rotors + pads + wear sensors) for me? Doing mine next week and just want to give myself a heads-up of any Bavarian-specific weirdness I should be looking out for.
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Oct 10, 2012 20:58
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So I went and got my M5 back while BMW continues to argue with the body shop over the headlights. I noticed something hilarious. Here's a shot of the front of the car.  Here's a shot of the new headlight that the bodyshop claimed they bought from BMW for $1200.  Here's a shot of the used headlight.  Anyone notice the glaringly obvious difference? Keep in mind the bodyshop did not notice this until I finally took it over to BMW 
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Oct 10, 2012 21:12
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Is one of the indicators much... darker than the other?
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Oct 10, 2012 21:15
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The round turn signal lamp looks completely different to me.
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Oct 10, 2012 21:19
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Do you think it's akin to the "Lemforder vs Meyle vs other oem" maker or is that a $50 module from our friends in China that the shop bought off of ebay?
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Oct 10, 2012 21:38
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One has a reflector covering the turn signal bulb, and the other does not.
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Oct 10, 2012 21:48
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Keyser S0ze posted:Do you think it's akin to the "Lemforder vs Meyle vs other oem" maker or is that a $50 module from our friends in China that the shop bought off of ebay? Generally it's either Bosch (under AL) or ZKW that makes xenons for BMW. Aside from the e46 projector bowl issue with ZKW, the quality is good, and should work flawlessly. When I had the ZHP I switched from ZKW to AL with no problems. I'd say it's a DEPO style knockoff for cheap. Crustashio fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 10, 2012 21:49
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Looks like the one on the left has an exposed turn signal bulb in a reflective bowl type housing. The one on the right appears to be a housing with a lens covering a bulb. The one on the right is most likely a cheap(er) knock off or aftermarket part, like has been suggested. I don't know what the laws in your state are, but I'm sure the insurance company wouldn't be happy they paid $1200 for that.
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Oct 10, 2012 22:26
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Is an auction for a 1M coupe with a salvage title closing at $30k without the reserve being met as crazy as it seems? I mean, I know they're sought after but dayum.
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Oct 10, 2012 22:47
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televiper posted:Is an auction for a 1M coupe with a salvage title closing at $30k without the reserve being met as crazy as it seems? There's a guy in NYC that owns a shop that's been buying up all the wrecked 1Ms and restoring them. He's selling them for between 40 and 50, sometimes before they're even done.
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Oct 10, 2012 23:13
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Jealous Cow posted:There's a guy in NYC that owns a shop that's been buying up all the wrecked 1Ms and restoring them. He's selling them for between 40 and 50, sometimes before they're even done. To bad BMW didn't just add this to the M line up. I know its just a fluffed up 135i, but its a brilliant car.
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Oct 10, 2012 23:20
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GentlemanofLeisure posted:Looks like the one on the left has an exposed turn signal bulb in a reflective bowl type housing. The one on the right appears to be a housing with a lens covering a bulb. The one on the right is most likely a cheap(er) knock off or aftermarket part, like has been suggested. I don't know what the laws in your state are, but I'm sure the insurance company wouldn't be happy they paid $1200 for that. BMW thinks it's a European-model headlight. I'm going to write this whole thing up and send it to my insurance company, because there has been a lot of fuckups and mistakes during this whole procedure (which should have taken two weeks max and is now at 8 and counting)
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Nait Sirhc posted:BMW thinks it's a European-model headlight. I'm going to write this whole thing up and send it to my insurance company, because there has been a lot of fuckups and mistakes during this whole procedure (which should have taken two weeks max and is now at 8 and counting) Shouldn't a euro model have clear corner markers? Crustashio fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 11, 2012 00:22
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Crustashio posted:Generally it's other Bosch (under AL) or ZKW that makes xenons for BMW. Aside from the e46 projector bowl issue with ZKW, the quality is good, and should work flawlessly. When I had the ZHP I switched from ZKW to AL with no problems. I'd say it's a DEPO style knockoff for cheap. I was too lazy to look up the actual headlight OEM's. If anything they should just get him a new driver's side one too so at least they match (provided they work correctly) Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 11, 2012 00:42
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Jealous Cow posted:There's a guy in NYC that owns a shop that's been buying up all the wrecked 1Ms and restoring them. He's selling them for between 40 and 50, sometimes before they're even done. There's probably no shortage of business for him...I've heard that there have been piles of 1Ms written off so far, relatively speaking. On an unrelated note, I changed my battery today in preparation for winter. Unfortunately, in my haste, I managed to break both the plastic pins that hold down the battery compartment cover. Does anyone know what the part number for these are? RealOEM's diagrams aren't really straightforward for this sort of thing.
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THE WHISTLE IS GONE!! THE WHISTLE IS GONE!! It wasn't the diff. Shocking, I know. Somehow, the sunroof seal was missing. I have no idea how that happened, or why the dealership that CPO'ed it didn't realize/fix it.
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Oct 11, 2012 06:08
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According to wikipedia, there are only 740 1Ms in the US. How can there be that many totaled 1Ms? And if there are, we should start confiscating cars from these morons.
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Cojawfee posted:According to wikipedia, there are only 740 1Ms in the US. How can there be that many totaled 1Ms? And if there are, we should start confiscating cars from these morons. The M3 I got recently - the owner was contemplating keeping it to give his son who was about to get his license. This understanding extends to all things.
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The engine + front seats of my car have started to smell of gasoline... It's a 1988 325i convertible. When I bought it three years ago there were a few dents in the front left panel. Four months ago the revometer stopped working. Two weeks ago, finally, I took it to a body shop to get the dents fixed up and painted. When it came back, I noticed the strong gasoline smell. You smell while sitting in the front seats, and also when walking around the front of the car. There are absolutely no leaks on the ground, none at all. The car never had any similar smell before. What kind of problem is this? Where should I start investigating? Is it even possible that this is related to work done at the body shop?
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ljw1004 posted:What kind of problem is this? Where should I start investigating? Is it even possible that this is related to work done at the body shop? Like piece 11 or 12 on this diagram is disconnected, not hooked to 15 like it should be. Lowclock fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 11, 2012 18:51
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sofullofhate posted:Would anyone with ye olde shoppe manuale for the E90 be willing to scan the section on front / rear brake service (rotors + pads + wear sensors) for me? Doing mine next week and just want to give myself a heads-up of any Bavarian-specific weirdness I should be looking out for. Well, E87, but basically the same car. It's your normal brake job, except:
Edit: http://tis.spaghetticoder.org has the sections for the E87, but not for the E90... bolind fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Sorry if this isn't the right thread for this, but it is BMW related, so what the hell. I have a 2003 E46 325xi, and the sunroof took a poo poo the other day. I know that the problem is related to two of the clips, and I actually removed the glass part today to confirm it/remove one of the broken clips. The issue is that I noticed that the plastic bit on the driver has come loose. The bottom section (using the picture for orientation) of the grey plastic "ring" seems to have torn and come off of the metal tab Part of the issue I'm trying to fix seems to be that the driver is now just riding over the rear clip on the sunroof. Replacing that part appears to require buying a $100+ kit that includes a bunch of stuff I don't need at all. I'm hoping that replacing the broken clips will solve the entire issue, but if it doesn't is there any reason why I can't just epoxy that plastic back onto the tab? (This is also the first time I've tried fixing anything on my car myself aside from changing a headlight bulb, I feel fancy.)
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I'm hoping it's not really a big deal, but is it bad if my engine sometimes stalls under hard, emergency braking? It's happened twice in the time I've owned it, once a long time ago and then again today. Basically, I was driving along about to pass another BMW and some rear end in a top hat in a Nissan decides to pull out in front of me to try to turn left. The problem is that he straightened out while still halfway in my lane and took forever to get into the middle. I had to brake hard and when it was safe again, I kept going, except I noticed the gas pedal didn't do anything. Then I noticed the SES light, then I noticed the rev meter was dead. I didn't notice immediately because I was going downhill. This was all coming to me as I was rolling downhill to the to turn lane. I got to the turn lane and stopped, restarted the engine and everything was fine. I would understand if the engine stalled because I had a manual and I didn't hit the clutch, but I have an automatic. Would this have been some kind of failsafe and it all just freaked out and shut down, or perhaps the transmission didn't shift down fast enough or am I hosed? It's only happened the two times in the almost two years I've owned it. Other than that it was running fine. The SES light was only on until I started the engine back up. I mentioned it once while getting my car serviced a couple weeks after the first time, the guy didn't say anything. But that was back home, and the guy didn't seem to give a poo poo. I haven't asked my guy here, he actually seems to give a poo poo about me.
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Inspector_71 posted:Hardcore sunroof repairs Well I have no good answer to your question, but I we do have folks in here with some experience in 3-series sunroof. I can point you to a potential resource -- the realoem.com website should have a good schematic of the sunroof that might direct you to the part: http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=EU33&mospid=47722&btnr=54_0205&hg=54&fg=05 If it's not in there, your best bet would be to try a salvage yard. Depending on your area, you might have a "U-Pull-It" or "Pick 'n Pull" or similar self-service junkyard which should allow you the opportunity to get to it and pick it out yourself. The cost is time instead of dollars -- they'd probably charge you a couple bucks at most.
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Stardotstar posted:Well I have no good answer to your question, but I we do have folks in here with some experience in 3-series sunroof. I can point you to a potential resource -- the realoem.com website should have a good schematic of the sunroof that might direct you to the part: It's a lot But yeah, the part doesn't seem to be in the schematic views. I know what parts I would need, I really just wanted to know if epoxying that one tiny plastic cover would have any ill effects, but either way I'm looking too far ahead since once I've replaced the clips it may end up not being a problem at all. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Oct 12, 2012 |
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bolind posted:
Its worth buying new caliper bolts. For some reason, they get really really nasty. I tried cleaning mine, and they never seem to come clean. They are not all that expensive. But yeah, I reuse my wear sensor as long as it clips in correctly. If its loose, replace it.
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sofullofhate posted:Would anyone with ye olde shoppe manuale for the E90 be willing to scan the section on front / rear brake service (rotors + pads + wear sensors) for me? Doing mine next week and just want to give myself a heads-up of any Bavarian-specific weirdness I should be looking out for. 7mm allen key on the sliders, if they're similar to e36/e46 calipers. I don't know why the gently caress they had to go with a non-common size.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:Its worth buying new caliper bolts. For some reason, they get really really nasty. I tried cleaning mine, and they never seem to come clean. They are not all that expensive. I have new sensors, thanks. Goddamn if the caliper / slider bolts in my Subarus didn't get corroded and nasty too, don't know why I didn't think to order new ones. Crustashio posted:7mm allen key on the sliders, if they're similar to e36/e46 calipers. I don't know why the gently caress they had to go with a non-common size. 7mm? That's fantastic. I guess I'm off the a dealership and Canadian Tire tomorrow.  Thanks guys!
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God drat... I hate this time of year. Its the time of year when your driving and then your car chimes at you and your mind goes "OH gently caress MY CARS BROKE!" and turns out its just below 37 degrees.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:God drat... I hate this time of year. This almost gave me a heart attack this morning...
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I have a picture somewhere of my old e34 525's temp gauge freaking out once and saying it was -535F. I was quite impressed as to how comfortable it was in the cabin despite all molecular motion ceasing outside the vehicle.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:God drat... I hate this time of year. Haha I loving hate that thing so much.
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