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The New Sanctum Line is the most profitable line in the Northwest at this point. Please NDS, go forth with merging into the heavily in debt HWFR and the H&F owned by two of the most ruthless railroad barons in the country. The NSW and B&B are welcome members of the New Sanctum family.
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Northeast Nutmeg isn't done growing yet. I'd like to make a few more additions while we have time. That lake looks like a wonderful place to relax. I propose the foundation of a resort town on the southern shore, where that bit of land juts out. We shall call this new town Lakeside. A rail spur comes out near New Hartshire, near where the line to East Hartshire joins the trunk, with a wye going both north and south. The line goes near the lake, and continues on to Balkany. The line doesn't go directly to Lakeside; instead, passengers will embark and disembark at a station roughly a mile away, so as not to disturb the peaceful resort. They'll take plentiful (and subsidized) coaches to the town, where they can enjoy weeks of fishing, bathing, and clean air. My assumption is that the middle and upper classes will come to Lakeside for peaceful vacations away from the cities. Edit: ZombieApostate posted:I want to propose a merger between NDS, HWFR, K&W and H&F so that we may strangle the interlopers to the south to death The H&F cautiously accepts. Our lawyers shall inspect your proposal with finely toothed combs, however, and we shall retain our agency towards expansion. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Oct 14, 2012 |
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Also, so we don't get gobbled up since NS is getting worryingly large. In this way, we can control nearly all rail traffic going into or out of Nutmeg, making us stupidly rich at the same time. If you are agreeable, we can discuss names or just use something functional, like NDHF or Nutmeg Import/Export Company or somesuch.
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In that vein... Oliver, not to be outshined, has built on the lake to the East, calling it the Lake Oliver resort (who cares what the lake was called before, they're calling it Lake Oliver). And they'd like to build a rail line to provide direct access.  Because of topography, the line will snake south a bit, use NS tracks for a while, then go north following the river. If NS doesn't agree, we'll just build duplicate track. The track is single lined as it takes a scenic path with the river, across through the shore of the lake, into the town. At first we'll just pass over the Boltic-Chenchester line (still right against the river) but if need be we can make a connection.
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Nope a connection with a resort town is none of the New Sanctum Lines concern. Also, thank you, THANK YOU, to the H&F for introducing Jay Mould to the NDS system.  VVVVV shhhh. Let him do his thing Ron Pauls Friend fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 14, 2012 |
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Oct 14, 2012 01:48
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It was an attempt, but after I made the picture I decided we don't really need it yet. Since it can't be a four way wye (due to the closeness to the river) there are wyes from northbound, but southbound trains need a half cloverleaf.
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sincx posted:Getting OpenTTD all up in here huh? loving THIS. Worth reviving the Games thread with this if you want I think.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Would it be at all feasible to build a bridge to either of those coastal islands? We need more unspoiled picturesque wilderness to ruin with our tourism industry! Not any time in the foreseeable future, unfortunately. They're basically vacant at the moment, aside from a lighthouse or two. Volmarias posted:Northeast Nutmeg isn't done growing yet. I'd like to make a few more additions while we have time. That lake looks like a wonderful place to relax. I propose the foundation of a resort town on the southern shore, where that bit of land juts out. We shall call this new town Lakeside.  FISHMANPET posted:In that vein...  Your engineers scratch their heads at the interchange design, and end up building a quadrant instead. They're both single-track lines, so there's really no point in having two loops. sincx posted:Getting OpenTTD all up in here huh? Oh, that would be amazing. You'd want some NewGRF stuff for early American rail - it's easy to find.
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Wait, you're really going to let us found our own towns?  It's going to be a horrible trap that bankrupts the people that try, isn't it?
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Hedera Helix posted:Wait, you're really going to let us found our own towns? Well considering that we're playing with pretend dollars and we don't even know how many pretend dollars we have, or really that there's any pretend dollars at all, I'm not too concerned about it. Besides, the lakes are just sitting there. Someone had to
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Hedera Helix posted:Wait, you're really going to let us found our own towns? As far as I'm concerned, the towns are all there (there isn't a single place in Nutmeg that is not part of a town), I just don't show most of them because it would clutter the map. I don't want people to go nuts founding towns, but later on, I'll probably have you guys found a couple casinos.
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Cichlidae posted:
Yeah, that's better. Thankfully the execs are smart enough to listen to the engineers.
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Oct 14, 2012 07:12
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I hope my bridge survives as long as the Brooklyn Bridge has and will. 
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sincx posted:Working on it... I think A would be superior - you can still build small canyons where the streams WOULD be. Maybe stick some canals in there if you want real verisimilitude. How long did you spend on that heightmap, by the way? That's really amazing!
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I might as well get in on this lakeside resort business so long as the islands remain closed off to me. Also, I'd like to build a road from Waterbridge to Bridgefield just to the east of my railroad, for completion's sake. Rail may be the wave of the future, but you can only put so many trains on a single track. e: Also, what kinds of manufactured goods are popular in New Cork and Balkany? I think I might get into the luxuries business next decade. SlothfulCobra fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Oct 14, 2012 |
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BrooklynBruiser posted:I hope my bridge survives as long as the Brooklyn Bridge has and will. Did you massively overengineer it so that it's pretty much impossible to put more load on it than the structure can handle? Because that's why the Brooklyn Bridge is still up.
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Install Gentoo posted:Did you massively overengineer it so that it's pretty much impossible to put more load on it than the structure can handle? Because that's why the Brooklyn Bridge is still up.
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Cichlidae (or anyone else), how would you fix this? This is the interchange between the Indiana Toll Road and the Borman Expressway in northwest Indiana and the junction of I-80, I-90, and I-94. I-80 exits the Toll Road and a lot of cross-country traffic going west or north and bypassing Chicago has to take a single lane ramp with no shoulder and then weave to stay on I-80.  http://goo.gl/maps/ZXy6t
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SlothfulCobra posted:I might as well get in on this lakeside resort business so long as the islands remain closed off to me.  Edit: Actually, Compounce is a better name for that town. I'll rename it.  Textiles, telegraph equipment, wiring, stone bricks, sewer pipe, glass windowpanes... Dominus Vobiscum posted:Cichlidae (or anyone else), how would you fix this? The biggest problem there is that you've only got 2 lanes feeding the interchange from the southeast. It would be very simple to build a left-hand ramp from the toll road onto 80/94, but you would want to flare the toll road up to 3-4 lanes ahead of the split.  Before anyone calls me out on the left-hand ramp, it's maintaining route continuity on I-80, so a left-hand ramp is definitely called for. The on-ramp in the other direction should also enter on the left.
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Cichlidae, I mentioned it in passing before but could we improve the remaining Indian roads that are still seeing use? Presumably they are serving the communities along them and I wouldn't like to see then left behind. I presume the ones still shown are the ones still active.
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Munin posted:Cichlidae, I mentioned it in passing before but could we improve the remaining Indian roads that are still seeing use? Presumably they are serving the communities along them and I wouldn't like to see then left behind. Sure, consider it done.
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It is a common occurrence, whenever a bubble of economic activity is in its final days before the pop, that investors become truly irrational and desperate and fund all sorts of wacky schemes. Such as this, from the K&W division of the NDHF: It was sold as a way of spurring economic development in this corner of the state, with the wye shaving up to a half-hour off of travel times from Chenchester. Plans to build a model town at the convergence of the road and wye were still being drawn up, as a phase two, when news of a crash came from the New Cork Stock Exchange. edit: I probably should have picked different colors for this, but, eh.
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Fans of ridiculous engineering projects (ie. all the lurkers like myself reading this thread) will probably enjoy BBC Two's Built In Britain which broadcast it's second episode tonight. It's all about engineering on roads, railways and other stuff (nuclear power plants and big gently caress off wind farms in the English Channel, for example). It's on iplayer here Episode 1, Episode 2 or I guess  if you're overseas.
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Throughout the history of Nutmeg, the valley to the east of Opiantic has looked inviting from a distance but curiously off-putting when seen from up close, as noted in an indian proverb loosely translated as 'Don't go there, man'. Settlers avoided it for this reason. Until now. 1871 was the moment in history when unemployed civil war artillerist, bushman, and freelance surveyor Julius von Schmidt wandered into a meeting of the Opiantic Guild of Haberdashery and Allied Trades and convinced them with a persuasive song to tame wild nature by forming a logging company. For was not Lumber always needed for Mill Axles, and Pickaxe Handles, and Stout Bridges? (Historians believe he was motivated by his brother, who was trying unsuccessfully to sell a new kind of locomotive containing gears known as the schaey) Thus was formed the Uncanny Valley Bush Tramway!  Line 1 is to be built first over a period of many years, logging at the railhead. The more expensive crossing at line 2 to be built later. Unsure at this stage whether the forest can be turned into a renewable plantation. Lumber to be trans-shipped to the nearest station if a direct connection to the main railroad is not possible. Apologies for the terrible quality of Picture, I did this at work to get it in before 1880. Jaguars! fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Oct 14, 2012 |
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End of decade rail report: The two primary backers behind the H&F, Jay Mould and James Risk, under the guise of independence, make a last minute change to the merger contract. What started as a merger of equals now has the H&F as the clear dominant partner in the marriage between the 4 lines. The ink is already dry with the signatures of the presidents of the railroads before it is realized what has happened. Mould and Risk then proceed with a VERY leveraged buyout of a few minority shareholders and the primary shareholder of the old sickly HWFR, giving the two New Cork moguls 52% of the new company! ZombieApostate, former owner and president of the NDS is retained as president of the new line, but is paid with stock rather than a salary, a necessary compromise for the now cash strapped railroad. No worries though, the value of this line has nowhere to go but up! Meanwhile J.P Martin of New Cork continues to buy up NS stock. It's not performing as well as it could be given it's excess capacity and it's single track bridges over the Fukov are already a bottleneck, and it's 'partners' have problems of their own. However, it has brand new locomotives, upgraded track and has invested in a new telegraph company utilizing one of it's former component railroad names, GNU Telegraph Co. Elsewhere the WN has picked up traffic from the newly built resorts in the area. The NCL has invested in a new signaling system, increasing capacity and safety. The NDB manages to pick up some traffic from the HWFR to New Dublin, but since the merger traffic has fallen sharply. The traffic that does use the railroad is slowed by the steep grades and the lack of interchange at New Dublin. Many wonder why this line was built at all. Ron Pauls Friend fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Oct 15, 2012 |
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Hedera Helix posted:It is a common occurrence, whenever a bubble of economic activity is in its final days before the pop, that investors become truly irrational and desperate and fund all sorts of wacky schemes. Such as this, from the K&W division of the NDHF:  The road will stand as a monument to shortsightedness. Jaguars! posted:Throughout the history of Nutmeg, the valley to the east of Opiantic has looked inviting from a distance but curiously off-putting when seen from up close, as noted in an indian proverb loosely translated as 'Don't go there, man'. Settlers avoided it for this reason.  ----- Alright, let's call that it for 1870! 1880 should begin tomorrow.
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Well, somebody wants to "win" a bit too badly when they start writing the future of other people's railroads, but whatever.
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ZombieApostate posted:Well, somebody wants to "win" a bit too badly when they start writing the future of other people's railroads, but whatever. Hey, I'm just a reporter for the Railroad Daily, a trade magazine. We may be owned by the New Cork Central Railroad, of which the New Sanctum is a key connecting railroad and has a 15% interest, but we are not biased in anyway. In all honesty all this feuding has created great challenges for the future. Ron Pauls Friend fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Oct 15, 2012 |
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Ron Pauls Friend posted:Hey, I'm just a reporter for the Railroad Daily, a trade magazine. We may be owned by the New Cork Central Railroad, of which the New Sanctum is a key connecting railroad and has a 15% interest, but we are not biased in anyway. Yes, we'll have a lot to work out! If you guys want an early start on 1880, or if you're just bored on a Sunday night and need something to do, you can get a head start by trying to figure out which of the railroads will go bankrupt between 1870-80. Shoot for about 50%.
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Cichlidae posted:Yes, we'll have a lot to work out! Will these be abandoned or merely subsumed by other lines?
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Bought up for a bargain in bankruptcy court?
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Ron Pauls Friend posted:Will these be abandoned or merely subsumed by other lines? All redundant routes will be abandoned, or railbanked. Non-redundant routes can stick around for a while, at least until the 50s, when everyone gets to go bankrupt and eventually be nationalized.
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Cichlidae posted:All redundant routes will be abandoned, or railbanked. Non-redundant routes can stick around for a while, at least until the 50s, when everyone gets to go bankrupt and eventually be nationalized. Oh cool, I've been trying to push things to resemble the formation of the New Haven Line (one of my favorite railroads) and end up with a horribly mismanaged and decrepit system which ends up being bailed out by the government and being mostly abandoned. But since I'm being accused of trying to win the game, whatever that means, I'll go ahead and suggest some abandonments for the coming decade(s), regardless of the railroad. -The New Dublin & Boltic RR in its entirety. -The NS line along the New Dublin River from New Dublin to the junction in South Opiantic. Traffic from the north to New Dublin is better served by the line northwest to Deep Bend or using the NDS or NCL. -The NS bridge over the river in Central Opiantic, keeping the line in central Opiantic for local traffic. -The NS line from Boltic to Middleport, including the "S" connection. Keep the southern line out of Opiantic to Deep Bend. -The bypass line from Wellingford to Fairport was poorly conceived and is an albatross for the NS.(Unless chaos reigns of course and you guys want to leave the cities on the coast high and dry) -The NCL west of New Dublin, would probably be abandoned at some point -The WN I could see surviving into the 1950's until being abandoned in its entirety like the NYO&W. -I could honestly see a scenario where the old HWFR is abandoned from Hartshire to Mutnap, or at least falls into near ruin. Ron Pauls Friend fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Oct 15, 2012 |
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Cichlidae posted:Yes, we'll have a lot to work out! Ouch. Do we have to propose the cuts before the 1880 update, or can we do so during? The reason I ask is, the latest rail map is missing a few lines (although they'd probably be abandoned, in any case), and we need to get an idea of the amount of traffic flowing through the lines both immediately before, and immediately after the crash. Ron Pauls Friend posted:-The NCL west of New Dublin, would probably be abandoned at some point Don't be talking about my most profitable railroad line. 
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Hedera Helix posted:Ouch. I'll post the up-to-date map today so you'll be able to put some more thought into it. 50% might seem like a lot, but have a look at the historical precedent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1873 which begat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Railroad_Strike_of_1877 .
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Ron Pauls Friend posted:The two primary backers behind the H&F, Jay Mould and James Risk, under the guise of independence, make a last minute change to the merger contract. What started as a merger of equals now has the H&F as the clear dominant partner in the marriage between the 4 lines. The ink is already dry with the signatures of the presidents of the railroads before it is realized what has happened. Mould and Risk then proceed with a VERY leveraged buyout of a few minority shareholders and the primary shareholder of the old sickly HWFR, giving the two New Cork moguls 52% of the new company! ZombieApostate, former owner and president of the NDS is retained as president of the new line, but is paid with stock rather than a salary, a necessary compromise for the now cash strapped railroad. No worries though, the value of this line has nowhere to go but up! Look at that again and tell me it doesn't read as "Hurr I take your railroad, but you can be my finger puppet".
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People shouldn't be too surprised. I mean look at the map. We have about 2 separate rail lines between each city. Depending on how you decide to count around three heading east out of New Sanctum to Fairport. There is the rail salad between Boltic and Deep Bend etc. We'll probably eventually reduce everything down to about five major rail corridors at most. Possible final(ish) trunks could be: Fairport => Waterbridge => New Hartshire Rockington => New Dublin => West/New Sanctum => Millfort => Fairport New Dublin => Opiantic => Mutnap One of: West/New Sanctum => Deep Bend => Middleport => Oliver => Hartshire => Winton West/New Sanctum => Meridian => Hartshire => Winton Then possibly: Waterbridge => Hartshire => Chenchester => Mutnap Remaining active to provide a cross state link and (probably more importantly) to service the quarry heavy goods traffic. One of the Opiantic => Deep Bend lines might survive since it's such a small cut through. My feeling is that the pull of Hartshire would make sure the surviving cross state link passes through it as opposed to: Waterbridge => Meridian-Middleport => Opiantic I'm not listing all the stops for these just mentioning enough cities so the route is clear.
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