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Guinness posted:My only gripe about manual folding mirrors is that they are practically a non-feature since I never fold them because If you're parking on a narrow street the driver's side mirror is the one you'd be most concerned about, I would think. I have no idea why, of all topics, I'm choosing to elaborate on this one.
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I've always regarded the purpose as being to prevent people knocking your mirrors out of position when they're walking between rows of parked cars as much as anything.
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To step it back to electric car chat for a second: I see a ton of Nissan Leafs around Madison, WI. They seem to be pretty popular in a city where it's pretty reasonable to rationalize one.
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Guinness posted:My only gripe about manual folding mirrors is that they are practically a non-feature since I never fold them because The only time I fold in my mirrors is in the garage when I need to take the trashcan out between the two cars. That and they fold them in at the car wash.
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I got a loving ticket from the CHP yesterday on a wide open mountain road in the Sierra Nevada for 65mph in a 55 mph thanks to this thread! I didn't want to hold up any goons behind me and got miraculously nabbed by some CHP in a Chevy Tahoe coming from about 500 yards the other way. Meanwhile a bunch of pickup trucks doing 70 had just passed me but apparently it's ok for them. Thanks for understanding CHP! Also: Mirrors are bigger now, they need to fold easily and automatically preferably.
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Keyser S0ze posted:I got a loving ticket from the CHP yesterday on a wide open mountain road in the Sierra Nevada for 65mph in a 55 mph thanks to this thread! At least it wasn't an out of state ticket - my last CA ticket on NV reg was $300+, and that was nearly 15 years ago. Try not to speed like an idiot going down SR-431 from outside of Reno. E: Holy gently caress. I'm old. 
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It's possible someone might buy an electric car not out of an attempt to make the most economic choice vis-a-vis gas consumption versus the cost of electricity vs. the extra price of the car over a fuel-efficient non-electric car in the same category and with similar reliability and etc. etc., but because they view it as a direction in automotive technology that they want to support or promote, or because they want to "reduce America's dependence on Foreign Oil," or because they think electric cars are Super Cool. I don't know if a full-electric Smart makes sense in that respect, but it's a factor one shouldn't totally ignore. It's OK to like cars for reasons outside their practicality and cost effectiveness. AI wouldn't be here if it wasn't.
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If I had the financial means, I'd have a Tesla Model S. The fastest one with the biggest battery. That thing is awesome as gently caress.
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Leperflesh posted:It's possible someone might buy an electric car not out of an attempt to make the most economic choice vis-a-vis gas consumption versus the cost of electricity vs. the extra price of the car over a fuel-efficient non-electric car in the same category and with similar reliability and etc. etc., but because they view it as a direction in automotive technology that they want to support or promote, or because they want to "reduce America's dependence on Foreign Oil," or because they think electric cars are Super Cool. I think it's completely reasonable. And although the Smart isn't particularly luxurious, small, efficient higher end cars are a really under supplied market. Lexus/toyota is dipping their toes in with things like that small hybrid and the Aston cygnet, and I suppose you could include the Mercedes a-class, but that's about it.
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SouthLAnd posted:If I had the financial means, I'd have a Tesla Model S. The fastest one with the biggest battery. That thing is awesome as gently caress. Likewise. I don't give a poo poo if it it doesn't pencil out in gas saved or I can't take a cross-country road trip in it, and neither do any of the early adopters buying them. If I cared about penny pinching on gas I wouldn't have bought any of the cars I have owned up until this point, just like most of AI. It's ridiculous that people keep bringing up this argument against electric cars when they drive M3s and WRXes and Mustang GTs. This isn't BFC, this is loving AI, and an electric car that can beat an M5 in a drag race is loving AI. Guinness fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Oct 16, 2012 |
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Guinness posted:Likewise. I don't give a poo poo if it it doesn't pencil out in gas saved or I can't take a cross-country road trip in it, and neither do any of the early adopters buying them. I have seen several model S driving around Menlo Park and their styling is far better than an m5 as well. It carries its weight much better, doesnt look as bulky, and its overall just a more elegant shape.
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Once you've experienced the effortless, instant and glassy-smooth torque of an electric motor, anything else feels ridiculously primitive in comparison. Diesels and big V8s etc. have torque, but nothing like this. It doesn't let up, it doesn't give you a moments pause due to gear changes. It's just one long smooth, increasing pull that puts you in your seat. Full-bore acceleration in a powerful electric car feels kinda like a freefall, actually. A bit less intense, but the same general feeling.
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KozmoNaut posted:Full-bore acceleration in a powerful electric car feels kinda like a freefall, actually. A bit less intense, but the same general feeling. Key word being 'powerful'. The electric Smart is actually less powerful and slower than these which I have driven a bit and I can tell you they're not exactly impressive.
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dissss posted:Key word being 'powerful'. Yeah, we have a couple of those at work, for meetings at other locations within Copenhagen, to save money on taxis. They're Citroën C-Zeros, but it's the same car as the Mitsubishi. They're perfectly seviceable for driving around town, plus they're quiet and very easy to park. Keeping up with traffic at city speeds is no problem, but as soon as you venture on to a highway it all pretty much falls apart, they have absolutely no guts above 80km/h or so. Great city car, not a very good all-rounder.
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Spy shots of new Subaru Forester are out:    Looks alright. Like a 90s Kia crossed with a new Mercedes. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Oct 16, 2012 |
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KozmoNaut posted:Once you've experienced the effortless, instant and glassy-smooth torque of an electric motor, anything else feels ridiculously primitive in comparison. It's all fun and games in an i-MiEV until you try taking an on-ramp too fast. Yes, effortless torque, but also no front grip!
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Cream_Filling posted:Spy shots of new Subaru Forester are out: Wonder what the different bumpers designate. Sport package? Aero kit? Bigger opening for a FMIC? I like the bottom one.
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Tesla model S's also sound loving ridiculously awesome. Completely unique noise that makes them even cooler.
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Bob NewSCART posted:Tesla model S's also sound loving ridiculously awesome. Completely unique noise that makes them even cooler. LOL at this part, though: Tesla Model S Service Contract: $600/Year, Or Warranty Voided quote:But in a recent blog post on the Tesla Motor Club forum, Tesla vice president George Blankenship made it perfectly clear: Failure to fork over $600 for an annual inspection will void your warranty. Period.
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KozmoNaut posted:Once you've experienced the effortless, instant and glassy-smooth torque of an electric motor, anything else feels ridiculously primitive in comparison. I switched from a diesel to a hybrid and it's similar in how it's just one long pause-free acceleration except as the motors start to run out of steam, that's when the engine takes over. The electric motor only acts on its own when accelerating relatively gently at low speeds, but it's as close to silent as Toyota thought they could get away with without running down pedestrians. Although nobody's made a truly sporty car using this drivetrain yet, I'm sure that the MR-H whenever it comes out (C'mon already, Toyota  ) is going to be the best of both worlds.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:The second part isn't legal is it? I thought they made some law a few years back so that dealers couldn't require you to get routine service done at their shops to keep your warranty intact. I think the magnusson-moss act prevents them from making that arrangement.
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BoostCreep posted:Wonder what the different bumpers designate. Sport package? Aero kit? Bigger opening for a FMIC? I like the bottom one. I gotta admit I would miss it.
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Muffinpox posted:I think the magnusson-moss act prevents them from making that arrangement. Good luck suing them, though. Being illegal's never stopped a company from doing whatever they want. Tesla, for instance, basically admits in their annual report that they don't really care about researching state auto and dealer laws until someone calls them on it. Most likely, they're going to dance around the issue by saying they mean "Tesla certified service centers" and then making it ludicrously difficult and slow to get certification. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Oct 16, 2012 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Rumour has it that Subaru is ditching the hood scoop company wide in favour of an FMIC now that the turbo is a low-slung mount like on the last USDM turbo Legacy. The last turbo Legacy didn't have an FMIC, so why would they do that now? The Forester in the photo just has the front bumper bit painted black, you can still see it. It's much more likely they've just cancelled the turbo model entirely because no one bought them.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Rumour has it that Subaru is ditching the hood scoop company wide in favour of an FMIC now that the turbo is a low-slung mount like on the last USDM turbo Legacy. Not having scoop/TMIC on a turbo subaru wouldn't feel right.
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So it isn't a vehicle or make I'd usually keep up with, but I saw a 2013 Grand Vitara (Escudo, I guess) parked inside my local mall on Sunday and it is GORGEOUS. I have been known to surf Craigslist for clean Samurais/Sidekicks and occasionally Vitaras and Grand Vitaras, but haven't seen any of the recent iterations. It looks great in pictures but even better in person. I think they just nailed the proportions of everything. The Euro/International model comes with that weird (awesome) stalk on the front. To the surprise of nobody, the American version lacks this cool accessory. It also comes in two different metallic browns, which I love. The flat-ish hood and angles are all so well executed. I'll take one with a 5 speed and some chunky tires, please.
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Cream_Filling posted:Good luck suing them, though. Being illegal's never stopped a company from doing whatever they want. Tesla, for instance, basically admits in their annual report that they don't really care about researching state auto and dealer laws until someone calls them on it. To be fair, is anyone (other than the dealers themselves) happy to see the dealer network sticking around?
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IOwnCalculus posted:To be fair, is anyone (other than the dealers themselves) happy to see the dealer network sticking around? Local/state politicians, obviously.
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Das Volk posted:EVERYONE who I don't have a V1, but I do have a Whistler Radar/Lidar detector, and I can't recommend one enough. That thing has seriously saved me at least $1,000.
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Q_res posted:I don't have a V1, but I do have a Whistler Radar/Lidar detector, and I can't recommend one enough. That thing has seriously saved me at least $1,000. It's been awhile since I kept up but isn't a LIDAR detection pointless since if the lasers detected the cop already knows how fast you're going? ie it's to late, also I thought jammers were supposed to be bullshit? My Escort was great when I was driving across the country but I never bothered putting it into my current ride because the local cops started used LIDAR and while my Escort detected it just fine it didn't stop them from clocking me all the same.
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Elem7 posted:It's been awhile since I kept up but isn't a LIDAR detection pointless since if the lasers detected the cop already knows how fast you're going? ie it's to late, also I thought jammers were supposed to be bullshit? LIDAR detectors work off the scatter when he lights up another car. Jammers are usually illegal but check state laws.
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TheFrailNinja posted:So it isn't a vehicle or make I'd usually keep up with, but I saw a 2013 Grand Vitara (Escudo, I guess) parked inside my local mall on Sunday and it is GORGEOUS. I have been known to surf Craigslist for clean Samurais/Sidekicks and occasionally Vitaras and Grand Vitaras, but haven't seen any of the recent iterations. It looks great in pictures but even better in person. I think they just nailed the proportions of everything. The Euro/International model comes with that weird (awesome) stalk on the front. To the surprise of nobody, the American version lacks this cool accessory. It also comes in two different metallic browns, which I love. The flat-ish hood and angles are all so well executed. I'll take one with a 5 speed and some chunky tires, please. I think Suzuki's pretty underrated, they oughta sell more cars than they do. Whenever I get a new car (sometime in the next 2-3 years maybe) it'll either be an SX4 or a Jettawagen, depending on whether I feel like I want AWD or a wagon more.
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Friar Zucchini posted:I think Suzuki's pretty underrated, they oughta sell more cars than they do. Whenever I get a new car (sometime in the next 2-3 years maybe) it'll either be an SX4 or a Jettawagen, depending on whether I feel like I want AWD or a wagon more. Really? Dunno, nothing Suzuki makes is particularly distinguished. The SX4 is alright, but it costs $14-17k. That's within spitting distance of the bigger, arguably better Impreza. Although probably you could drive some pretty hard bargains off of MSRP. Other than that, the only other car Suzuki even sells here is the Kizashi, which is supposedly pretty decent, but nobody has ever bought one to find out.
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GM planning to bring back the Turbo-Jet badge: http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2012/10/05/gm-files-trademark-paperwork-for-turbo-jet Maybe they think trims like Z06 and ZR1 are too sterile. Or maybe it's not even going on Vettes this time.
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Cream_Filling posted:Really? Dunno, nothing Suzuki makes is particularly distinguished. The SX4 is alright, but it costs $14-17k. That's within spitting distance of the bigger, arguably better Impreza. Although probably you could drive some pretty hard bargains off of MSRP. It's also either within spitting distance, or actually cheaper, than pretty much all the big brands' entry-level cars. I'd say AWD for that cheap is a pretty great deal, plus it's actually a decent car.
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kimbo305 posted:GM planning to bring back the Turbo-Jet badge: GM is working on that 3.0 and/or 3.6 twin-turbo V6, I think that site is right about that possibly being the application for that term.
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Good news for those who want a Wrangler but hate reliability and not-being-on-fire, JLR is bringing back the Defender as an entry level vehicle below the Evoque! http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.d...autonews-weekly
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