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Jonny 290 posted:if i can get a reproducible yosvape that outperforms the ~$300 vaporizers out there with profit room and demand feels right im going to kickstart it and will give you the faceplate-and-mounting-widget contract iunno man, i wouldnt really recommend that
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i kind of want to just design it and see if there are any buyers. i dunno. year or so of time between now and then at least
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Jonny 290 posted:i kind of want to just design it and see if there are any buyers. no i mean the part where you rely on anything i may or may not do
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Oct 17, 2012 19:19
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man i been feelin out your vibe for a couple months now and I think you need a Project. you seem bored and meh you got any medium to long term personal fun irons in the fire?
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Jonny 290 posted:man i been feelin out your vibe for a couple months now and I think you need a Project. you seem bored and meh oh hells yeah, i got the cabin to build and machine shop to set up, so i got the spending money side all ready to go.
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Oct 17, 2012 19:23
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good man, thats the most important part.
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Oct 17, 2012 19:32
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rotor posted:guys seriously though im hella burnt out on programming and i dont want to do it any more and im finding it difficult to move into management same
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Oct 17, 2012 20:26
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tef posted:same Same and I graduate in June, bring it on life how boring can you get
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Oct 17, 2012 20:28
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rotor posted:oh hells yeah, i got the cabin to build and machine shop to set up, so i got the spending money side all ready to go. pro tip for pros only if you are thinking "i should put a machine shop in my ____" your next thought should be "how many people will die when i attempt to move a milling machine that weighs literally a ton into my _____"
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Oct 17, 2012 20:28
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Phobeste posted:pro tip for pros only anus
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Oct 17, 2012 20:29
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Shaggar posted:checked exceptions and stored procs ftw. the rightest post
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Oct 17, 2012 20:38
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Phobeste posted:pro tip for pros only rotor posted:keeping in mind i have no experience with the following things:
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Oct 17, 2012 21:06
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why is every cnc web page from 1998 http://www.deepgroove1.com/cncmill.htm
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Oct 17, 2012 21:12
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rotor posted:why is every cnc web page from 1998 ham radio operator syndrome, slant-rhymed "windows 95 works fine why would i upgrade'
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Oct 17, 2012 21:13
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tef posted:same  
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Oct 17, 2012 21:13
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it's more that i'm sick of the industry. people tell me I should go and work in a large behemoth company instead of working at small brain damaged firms, because then it's easy to stop caring. i don't want to stop caring
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Oct 17, 2012 21:32
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tef posted:same Heartless multinationals man. Lots of management slots, unless you are in a R&D group it's easy to stand out, and lots of chances to find someone to mentor you through it.
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Oct 17, 2012 21:33
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tef posted:i don't want to stop caring
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Oct 17, 2012 21:34
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tef posted:it's more that i'm sick of the industry. big companies are worse i'm sick of the industry and also other engineers sick of the loving smuggo bullshit and how everyone thinks they're the most rational actor on god's green earth
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Oct 17, 2012 21:34
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y'all need to get on the java/c# enterprise funwagon.
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tef posted:it's more that i'm sick of the industry. im just completely unmotivated to fix bugs or implement new features or do basically anything, i dont care about any of these dumb computer problems and i dont care about whatever clever ways i might solve them.
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Oct 17, 2012 21:43
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i have like 5 projects i really want to work on but only time for 1 or 2. its suckss!!!
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rotor posted:im just completely unmotivated to fix bugs or implement new features or do basically anything, i dont care about any of these dumb computer problems and i dont care about whatever clever ways i might solve them. yep atop of that I get this is important !!!!! style agile processes. Every update I find out what I am meant to be fixing instead. these last few months have been constant firefighting and then explaining why no dev works gets done because the founders are arsonists we want sustainable development, aka we want to burn each of you out in turn, as we chase a large crazy client who will fck us over
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You guys are bumming me out, that's how I felt a few months ago. Right now things aren't much better, but I don't feel as bad as I used to, guess it was just a slump.
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Oct 17, 2012 21:48
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tef posted:yep pretty much
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Oct 17, 2012 21:49
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hey rotor some cnc machines are computer controlled which means you might have an aptitude for it but also might hate it i worked at a friend's dad's machine shop one summer and its largely really dirty boring work. you mount the metal and program the machine, then stand there and watch that nothing fucks up while it makes a zillion slow passes over the thing, slowly turning it into A Thing.
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Oct 17, 2012 21:49
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tef posted:i don't want to stop caring idk i've found a pretty good niche where the amount of care i invest results in a shitload of other engineers having an easier time on the next project  you just have to block out being constantly told that it's bad for me, personally, to keep caring like that
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Oct 17, 2012 21:50
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ahhhh i still need a developer or 2.... there are no good ones in maine...
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Oct 17, 2012 21:53
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I don't know. If I don't care about it, I'm not motivated to work on it. If I care too much and that care isn't in the same direction of people in the business (making it bring money in), then it becomes conflicting, you lose the caring, and it becomes bad again. I'm telling myself at some point I'll have to launch my own business so that the caring aligns. I do know I'm kidding myself though, and that customers will add a layer on top of it that will make it impossible to have ~the perfect motivating job forever~. So far I'm lucky to be in a place where things don't conflict much. Otherwise I don't know if I'll end up as the developer who is happy and still in the industry at 50, or the programmer who is happy because he left the industry at some point.
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Oct 17, 2012 22:00
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Shaggar pay for my visa, I even know the jaba
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Hard NOP Life posted:Shaggar pay for my visa, I even know the jaba plus this is probably the only person you'll find willing to move to maine
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Oct 17, 2012 22:03
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we can pay for relocation or anything which really sucks.
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MononcQc posted:I don't know. If I don't care about it, I'm not motivated to work on it. If I care too much and that care isn't in the same direction of people in the business (making it bring money in), then it becomes conflicting, you lose the caring, and it becomes bad again. I'm telling myself at some point I'll have to launch my own business so that the caring aligns. my current big big project is well aligned with what the marketing guy wants to do so its pretty easy for me to spend hours on it. its fun stuff imo so its cool. gonna spy the poo poo out of some people.
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Shaggar posted:my current big big project is well aligned with what the marketing guy wants to do so its pretty easy for me to spend hours on it. its fun stuff imo so its cool. gonna spy the poo poo out of some people. spying on people is fun as poo poo writing software is just a lot more fun in general when you're working against the user
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Oct 17, 2012 22:20
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like the most fun projects i've written are our tracking systems, my pop-up blocker buster, and a thing to shave revenue from our affiliates
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tef posted:it's more that i'm sick of the industry. Sounds like it's time to form a startup and/or create a full-time blogging hobby
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Socracheese posted:hey rotor some cnc machines are computer controlled which means you might have don't be fooled by this guy rotor, not a single computer numeric controlled machine works through a computer, much less some of them but yeah good luck, it'll be really hard to do competitive work with no training and also impossible to get work unless you know a guy or ten who can give you the sweet spot of jobs that are slightly too large for in house prototyping but not large enough to get a factory to retooland most of those jobs are already taken by existing shops that said, if instead of quitting you just built out the shop and started doing cool stuff with it you could basically establish yourself among the "ancient men in the Ozarks who build machine tools from the beginning point of "building a home smelter to cast your own lathe bed"
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yeah, join a huge faceless corporation it's bad in different ways which you aren't tired of yet
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i thought it'd be better if i was closer to the customer, but it turns out i no longer care about helping people either
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