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Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
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Got it, love it, so loving happy! Big upgrade from my iPhone 4!

Rogers store mentioned that Apple here is sold out of cases, plausible but I think it was just a ploy to make me buy a case from em. Want to see what Apple stocks first.

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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
Ahahaha for gently caress's sake.

Bell doubled our bill again. EVERY SINGLE loving MONTH SINCE THE RELEASE OF THE IPAD 3, THEY'VE DONE THIS.

This time they hung up on us when we called to get it straightened out. Done. So done. What an entirely worthless company.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
Does anyone know what the deal is for data roaming within Canada? My iPhone 3GS has a data block on it right now (long story, I asked Telus to put it on and found it was saving me loads of money so I never told them to take it off) but I'm thinking of having it taken off while on vacation in Banff next month. I have a Toronto number.

Do we get charged extra for data roaming within Canada with Telus? I'm going to be driving around that area so I'd like to have maps and data on in case I get lost but if its going to be US or International rates for data roaming, forget it.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

HipGnosis posted:

Does anyone know what the deal is for data roaming within Canada? My iPhone 3GS has a data block on it right now (long story, I asked Telus to put it on and found it was saving me loads of money so I never told them to take it off) but I'm thinking of having it taken off while on vacation in Banff next month. I have a Toronto number.

Do we get charged extra for data roaming within Canada with Telus? I'm going to be driving around that area so I'd like to have maps and data on in case I get lost but if its going to be US or International rates for data roaming, forget it.

No such thing as data roaming in Canada on the big3. Roam away!

This fact further emphasizes how artificial of a concept long distance calling is.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
My brother wants a cheap plan that has unlimited text messaging and maybe 50 or 100 minutes of voice. Is there an easy way to do this? I started looking up all the companies but I feel like he can't be the only one with such a need. Your help will cut down on the tedious research.

Migishu
Oct 22, 2005

I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful

Grimey Drawer
Fido and Virgin are $20 for 50mins of talk and unlim text (though read my Fido customer service horror story before you decide). Koodo has $20 for 50min talk, but comes with caller ID ($5 addon for unlim texting). Public is $25 for the same thing.

If you're in one of those lucky places that get Wind mobile, for $25 you get Unlimited call and texting, and 100mb data.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Ugh. Anyone know much about using (unlocked) Canadian phones in the US?

I have to deal with three guys wanting to buy pay-as-you-go cards there. I'm pretty sure the Rogers Samsung S2 LTE will only operate on AT&T.

The Rogers Samsung S3 will probably run on anything. I can't find a good pay-as-you-go + data plan though.

The one I'm not clear on at all is a Virgin iPhone 4. Googling it brings up lots of people trying to use Virgin USA phones in Canada, but not vice-versa.

edit: looks like Verizon will work. All good.

teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Oct 19, 2012

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib

teethgrinder posted:

Ugh. Anyone know much about using (unlocked) Canadian phones in the US?

I have to deal with three guys wanting to buy pay-as-you-go cards there. I'm pretty sure the Rogers Samsung S2 LTE will only operate on AT&T.

The Rogers Samsung S3 will probably run on anything. I can't find a good pay-as-you-go + data plan though.

The one I'm not clear on at all is a Virgin iPhone 4. Googling it brings up lots of people trying to use Virgin USA phones in Canada, but not vice-versa.

edit: looks like Verizon will work. All good.

HSPA devices from Canada will work on AT&T (3/4G) and T-Mobile (2G, 3G in some areas)

They will not work on Sprint or Verizon.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

less than three posted:

HSPA devices from Canada will work on AT&T (3/4G) and T-Mobile (2G, 3G in some areas)

They will not work on Sprint or Verizon.

The exception of course is Wind/Mobilicity phones, which are fully Tmo compatible. But that doesn't apply here so...

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Thanks. My head was filled to capacity with frequencies and acronyms and unlocking issues.

Fraternite
Dec 24, 2001

by Y Kant Ozma Post
So I'm doing the Mobilicity thing in Edmonton, and my coverage is poor to fair in the two locations where I spend the most time: home, and work. I get good coverage everywhere in between.

Essentially, I roam about 50% of the time at home or work and the other 50% I'm looking at one or two bars. For those who are interested, I'm at T6J 2C3 and T5V 1M4, which coveragemapper rates as dark-green-to-light-green.

I don't really care in either case because I just use wifi at home and I can position outside at work for an okay signal, but the coverage is comparatively crap to compare with the big boys. For example, my father has great coverage when he's at my home (he's Telus), and two co-workers have great coverage at work (they're on Fido).

You get what you pay for, I guess. That said, I don't think I'm switching (though I do have to look at my phone to see if I'm roaming at that particular moment when I text from home, and that's annoying).

Fraternite fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Oct 20, 2012

Joe 30330
Dec 20, 2007

"We have this notion that if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids."

As the audience reluctantly began to applaud during the silence, Biden tried to fix his remarks.

"Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids -- no, I really mean it." Biden said.

HipGnosis posted:

Does anyone know what the deal is for data roaming within Canada? My iPhone 3GS has a data block on it right now (long story, I asked Telus to put it on and found it was saving me loads of money so I never told them to take it off) but I'm thinking of having it taken off while on vacation in Banff next month. I have a Toronto number.

Do we get charged extra for data roaming within Canada with Telus? I'm going to be driving around that area so I'd like to have maps and data on in case I get lost but if its going to be US or International rates for data roaming, forget it.

What the gently caress are you talking about?

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Millstone posted:

What the gently caress are you talking about?
I loving think he's asking because he's not loving clear on what roaming actually is, which was already loving answered a week ago, so why the gently caress are you asking him?

Edit: Ah, the rap sheet explains all.

Joe 30330
Dec 20, 2007

"We have this notion that if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids."

As the audience reluctantly began to applaud during the silence, Biden tried to fix his remarks.

"Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids -- no, I really mean it." Biden said.

Happy_Misanthrope posted:

I loving think he's asking because he's not loving clear on what roaming actually is, which was already loving answered a week ago, so why the gently caress are you asking him?

Edit: Ah, the rap sheet explains all.

I'm sure we should all look up to your squeaky-clean posting record, Internet Forums Police Officer Happy_Misanthrope. Tell us about that time you posted only a wall of text in a "post only pictures" thread.

Joe 30330 fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Oct 21, 2012

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

shut up

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Welp, had to happen sometime I guess. I was all in love with Mobilicity and now their network has gone to poo poo. I haven't had data connectivity in the last hour and a half, and for voice I keep flipping between Roaming and Emergency service.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I wouldn't give up yet. When I've needed it most, "Canada's Most Reliable Network*"'s services have poo poo the bed on me for a few hours too.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!
So, tell me about third party iPhone unlocking services. I may have to end up getting a locked iPhone from the store after all due to some issues with UPS delivering the unlocked one I ordered.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Depending on the model you might not even have to go to a third party. There's a bunch of info in the jailbreak thread:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3412396

Though you'll want to look for unlock specific stuff.

OilSlick
Dec 29, 2005

Population: Buscuit
I've been hearing conflicting reports, but that thread seems to make it pretty clear that there are no third party unlocking capabilities for anything past the 3GS?

I'd like clarification myself, as one of my coworkers (who is quite knowledgeable in many aspects) swears on his life that his buddy can unlock iPhones (although admits he has no clue how he does it) and his father is using an unlocked 4S.

Contingency Plan
Nov 23, 2007

This is probably a stupid question but I don't have much experience with this kind of thing: My three-year contract with Rogers has expired and I'm on month-to-month billing with them, and I'm on their waitlist for an iPhone 5. Would I be in a better position to haggle a retention plan now or after I get the iPhone and sign on for a new contract?

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist

:dukedog:

Contingency Plan posted:

This is probably a stupid question but I don't have much experience with this kind of thing: My three-year contract with Rogers has expired and I'm on month-to-month billing with them, and I'm on their waitlist for an iPhone 5. Would I be in a better position to haggle a retention plan now or after I get the iPhone and sign on for a new contract?

It would have been better to try and get a retention plan before your contract ended...

rawrr
Jul 28, 2007

OilSlick posted:

I've been hearing conflicting reports, but that thread seems to make it pretty clear that there are no third party unlocking capabilities for anything past the 3GS?

I'd like clarification myself, as one of my coworkers (who is quite knowledgeable in many aspects) swears on his life that his buddy can unlock iPhones (although admits he has no clue how he does it) and his father is using an unlocked 4S.

Just look up <carrier> iphone IMEI unlock on eBay - it's like $60 for a permanent factory unlock.

It's still unclear to me how they manage it, but it works - I had an AT&T iphone unlocked this way for like $15.

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme
In case anyone else was wondering. I just found out that if you buy a phone outright, they have to unlock it for free in Canada. Also once you are off contract they have to unlock it. My mind has been blown.

I'm looking to buy a Note 2 from Rogers, which is apparently selling it for $649 vs over $700 which Bell is selling it for. Definitely going to unlock it when I get one.

Edit: On second read, apparently it is only proposed. Well that blows.

Hamelekim fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Oct 26, 2012

Crumbles
Mar 25, 2010

Contingency Plan posted:

This is probably a stupid question but I don't have much experience with this kind of thing: My three-year contract with Rogers has expired and I'm on month-to-month billing with them, and I'm on their waitlist for an iPhone 5. Would I be in a better position to haggle a retention plan now or after I get the iPhone and sign on for a new contract?

I was in the same boat and had very little luck with Rogers, despite all my haggling. Their retention plan was borderline insulting, considering I had been a customer for about a decade. I was just about ready to bend over and take it - walked down to the store to get a new phone and accept the retention plan. Turned out I couldn't accept the retention plan in-store. I asked about iPhones, and they started explaining that waitlist nonsense to me. They weren't trying very hard to keep me as a customer, it seemed, so I walked across the mall to Telus. Their plan was the same price as the Rogers retention plan, and pretty similar - slightly less data, but a few more voice perks. And they hooked me up with an iPhone 5 right on the spot.

Moral of the story: don't get your hopes up for a decent retention plan.

Zarkov Cortez
Aug 18, 2007

Alas, our kitten class attack ships were no match for their mighty chairs

Hamelekim posted:

In case anyone else was wondering. I just found out that if you buy a phone outright, they have to unlock it for free in Canada. Also once you are off contract they have to unlock it. My mind has been blown.

I'm looking to buy a Note 2 from Rogers, which is apparently selling it for $649 vs over $700 which Bell is selling it for. Definitely going to unlock it when I get one.

Edit: On second read, apparently it is only proposed. Well that blows.

You missed the Note 2 being on ebay's Deal of the Day for ~$589 unlocked w/ free shipping.

Thunderpussy
May 1, 2008

Crumbles posted:

I was in the same boat and had very little luck with Rogers, despite all my haggling. Their retention plan was borderline insulting, considering I had been a customer for about a decade. I was just about ready to bend over and take it - walked down to the store to get a new phone and accept the retention plan. Turned out I couldn't accept the retention plan in-store. I asked about iPhones, and they started explaining that waitlist nonsense to me. They weren't trying very hard to keep me as a customer, it seemed, so I walked across the mall to Telus. Their plan was the same price as the Rogers retention plan, and pretty similar - slightly less data, but a few more voice perks. And they hooked me up with an iPhone 5 right on the spot.

Moral of the story: don't get your hopes up for a decent retention plan.

Weird. I'm 2 years into my plan with Rogers and my wife 3GS has started to act funny.

Rogers wiped out both early upgrade fees, gave us a $56 credit, both iPhone 5s, and two $50 mail in rebates and kept my plan the same as it was. (no complaints with my 6gig data plan)

In the end, I'm paying $300 for two iPhone 5's. They told me to just walk over to Futureshop and pick them up there because they had them in stock.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Thunderpussy posted:

Weird. I'm 2 years into my plan with Rogers and my wife 3GS has started to act funny.

Rogers wiped out both early upgrade fees, gave us a $56 credit, both iPhone 5s, and two $50 mail in rebates and kept my plan the same as it was. (no complaints with my 6gig data plan)

In the end, I'm paying $300 for two iPhone 5's. They told me to just walk over to Futureshop and pick them up there because they had them in stock.

My sister has managed to get a similar deal. However, they were totally unhelpful on how to actually obtain an iPhone 5. They said "try a rogers store" or "try the apple store". Can she in theory go to any place with physical stock, and get them to look up the newly negotiated renewal details?

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme

Zarkov Cortez posted:

You missed the Note 2 being on ebay's Deal of the Day for ~$589 unlocked w/ free shipping.

I want LTE, otherwise, yeah that would have been the way to go. I just bought it from the Rogers website for about 100 dollars more, oh well.

Geektox
Aug 1, 2012

Good people don't rip other people's arms off.
Does anyone have any experience with Wind's coverage in the GVRD, particularly in the North Shore, Burnaby and Richmond? I currently have a GS3 from Virgin, which if I understand correctly is a pentaband phone and should work with Wind without me having to get a different phone.

Also, does anyone have any insight on Bell's LTE speeds vs. Wind's HSPA+ speeds? There's a theoretical difference I guess, but if residential internet speeds are anything to go by, what the operator promises and what you get are two very different things.

Thunderpussy
May 1, 2008

Lexicon posted:

My sister has managed to get a similar deal. However, they were totally unhelpful on how to actually obtain an iPhone 5. They said "try a rogers store" or "try the apple store". Can she in theory go to any place with physical stock, and get them to look up the newly negotiated renewal details?

That's what I did. At futureshop the guy there said that the paperwork i leave their store with will not match what was negotiated over the phone, but that's normal. Call in to retentions after a few days and make sure it's all set.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

Geektox posted:

Does anyone have any experience with Wind's coverage in the GVRD, particularly in the North Shore, Burnaby and Richmond? I currently have a GS3 from Virgin, which if I understand correctly is a pentaband phone and should work with Wind without me having to get a different phone.

Also, does anyone have any insight on Bell's LTE speeds vs. Wind's HSPA+ speeds? There's a theoretical difference I guess, but if residential internet speeds are anything to go by, what the operator promises and what you get are two very different things.

I found internet speeds on Wind/Mobilicity to be pretty poor compared to Telus (Koodo) and I'm not even on LTE. Not just overall speeds but responsiveness of websites and such is much much better on Koodo. I mostly used it around eastern Burnaby/Coquitlam/Port Moody though.

I have found in general Mobilicity/Wind are a lot less likely to get a decent signal if you are indoors. In our house in south coquitlam (Dawes Hill, above the theatre) you could get a signal if you were on the south side of the house upstairs but if you went into the half-basement or the north side of the house you'd vary between 1 bar or no signal. Koodo gets 2ish bars in the basement and 2-3 bars in the back side of the house.

Check coverage mapper to see if there's any gaping holes in areas where you frequent http://www.coveragemapper.com/. And just know that even in good signal areas, indoors in those areas can provide weak signals. Most of the coveragemapper results are from people driving around in cars/transit busses etc so the signal can look a little better than it is.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
The Wind frequency range is pretty bad for penetrating buildings, so your signal in a basement or in an enclosed area is bound to be worse. I accept that for dirt cheap unlimited data, though.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!
On that note: I still have the AWS band version of this thing if anyone in the Vancouver area wants to buy it from me at a steep discount: http://jdteck.com/products/repeaters/consumer-repeater-kits/jd55-pr-standard-kit-grey

I bought it because my Mobilicity phone didn't get signal downstairs but then I ended up switching to Koodo so had no use for it. I never even opened the box and have been super lazy about craigslisting my stuff (Also have a pair of Nexus S's that work on wind/mobilicity that I've been too lazy to get rid of).

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!
I'm in north Burnaby and had two lines since they opened up shop. I cancelled the first line after 3 months because they never did get service up at SFU. The second line I cancelled a year later after my wife got sick of not being able to hear the caller even with full signal. I don't know if things have improved since then, but judging by the anecdotes I've heard, not really. A friend of mine at work has Mobilicity service and also the same complaints.

ZShakespeare fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Oct 31, 2012

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.
For those with shareable 6GB tablet plans on Rogers - can you turn it on and off on a monthly basis? e.g. suppose you have a cellular tablet - can you turn it on for a month (and pay the $10 or whatever), then opt out for 2 months, then opt back in, etc?

Zarkov Cortez
Aug 18, 2007

Alas, our kitten class attack ships were no match for their mighty chairs
What would happen if you took your simcard (Rogers) out of a phone and put it into a tablet w/ cellular radio?

OilSlick
Dec 29, 2005

Population: Buscuit

Lexicon posted:

For those with shareable 6GB tablet plans on Rogers - can you turn it on and off on a monthly basis? e.g. suppose you have a cellular tablet - can you turn it on for a month (and pay the $10 or whatever), then opt out for 2 months, then opt back in, etc?

You should be able to, but be warned that it usually takes 30 days for most carriers to cancel a billed service like that. Also, reactivating may incur activation fees depending on your carrier.


Zarkov Cortez posted:

What would happen if you took your simcard (Rogers) out of a phone and put it into a tablet w/ cellular radio?

I'm pretty sure it'll connect to the cellular network and will access cellular data and bill you accordingly with whatever data plan you have. With the $10 share plans to share data with your smartphone plan, that would suggest that the data that tablets use is no different from data your smartphone uses.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

OilSlick posted:

You should be able to, but be warned that it usually takes 30 days for most carriers to cancel a billed service like that. Also, reactivating may incur activation fees depending on your carrier.

Ah ok, sounds good. I just got an iPad mini, and I'm thinking of exchanging it for the cellular model* so long as it's not a huge hassle with Rogers. I've heard they have a $2/month for 10 months deal with data sharing - wouldn't mind getting on board that.

* main reason: when I'm done with it, I can set my grandma up with it. She doesn't have WiFi but a data sharing plan and an iPad might be a good way to get her emailing finally.

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Zarkov Cortez
Aug 18, 2007

Alas, our kitten class attack ships were no match for their mighty chairs

Lexicon posted:

Ah ok, sounds good. I just got an iPad mini, and I'm thinking of exchanging it for the cellular model* so long as it's not a huge hassle with Rogers. I've heard they have a $2/month for 10 months deal with data sharing - wouldn't mind getting on board that.

* main reason: when I'm done with it, I can set my grandma up with it. She doesn't have WiFi but a data sharing plan and an iPad might be a good way to get her emailing finally.

Have a link for that share plan? I was thinking about getting a 32GB Nexus 7 with HSPA+ when they come out.

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