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stump posted:I was joking mostly
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That set up is a pretty lethal combination and I've got no idea how he didn't get pulled over. Googled US horse trailers, surprised they are so nose heavy, is there a reason for making them like that?
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stump posted:Or does a highish nose weight make it more stable? If you are using a load distribution hitch on a heavy enough vehicle it works out pretty nice. Not to say that can't be accomplished some other way, but once I started using load distribution hitches there was no going back. In case anyone doesn't know what that is, it's a hitch with bar springs that you attach to the hitch itself (on the towing vehicle) that are then loaded with chains off of the a-frame of the trailer. They are magical. When you hit a bump your truck and trailer bounce together rather than out of sync and with heavier loads you don't have the same vague steering/understeer issues that you might normally have.  The only thing better is a proper 5th wheel trailer, but then you have no choice other than a pickup.
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Oct 19, 2012 20:32
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Sorry guys, I'm not towing 4500 pounds with a Combi van.
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Oct 19, 2012 20:34
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Octopus Magic posted:Sorry guys, I'm not towing 4500 pounds with a Combi van.
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veedubfreak posted:It's because everyone in the US has tiny wieners they need to compensate for with big trucks and suvs Who you callin' fat?
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Motronic posted:The only thing better is a proper 5th wheel trailer, but then you have no choice other than a pickup.  And, there have been some attempts at other alternatives...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BNMvBnm14o grover fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Oct 19, 2012 |
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Oct 19, 2012 20:42
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grover posted:Or a Cadillac. I've never been so happy to be proven so wrong in such an appropriate way for the thread.  Edit: OMG. I unironically want that camper and tow bar in the video with the beetle. Obviously I would need to tow it with a 911 a/k/a VW Beetle LWB. Motronic fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Oct 19, 2012 |
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Oct 19, 2012 20:49
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grover posted:And, there have been some attempts at other alternatives...
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Oct 19, 2012 20:51
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Some not-too-distant shangri-la, indeed. My god. 
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Oct 19, 2012 20:55
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Who needs a trailer?
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Oct 19, 2012 21:02
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Paul Boz_ posted:Saw three of these at different times in different places today but didn't snap photos while driving. They...they make a Murano convertible?!
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Oct 19, 2012 21:36
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They made a limited run, and they MSRP for something like 70k.
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Oct 19, 2012 21:39
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veedubfreak posted:They made a limited run, and they MSRP for something like 70k. fake edit: At this point I realize I have no idea what a regular Murano costs. It's about $35k to $50k in Canada depending on options and I don't see the Murano cabriolet listed anywhere. Goddamn. Most people I know who drive Rogues and Muranos couldn't afford a used Cavalier. Credit is amazing. edit 2: On the US site, the Murano crosscabriolet MSRPs for $45k which is absurd. Someone out there is spending $800 a month to finance a Murano convertible. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 19, 2012 |
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Oct 19, 2012 21:41
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veedubfreak posted:They made a limited run, and they MSRP for something like 70k. What country? Nissan USA has them on their site as a normal trim level, starting at ~$45k. I've seen a couple of these in person, and never thought they were rare.
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Oct 19, 2012 21:44
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The crosscabrio is like 50k, not 70. Not that 50k is any better.
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I was just going by what I could remember from the last time it cropped up in AI. If I recall someone said they saw one at a dealership for that price.
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It wouldn't surprise me if a particularly tone deaf dealership in a really rich part of town would get one of the first models and then crank up the price (perhaps adding mandatory unremovable dealership "extras") because it's RARE!
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Motronic posted:The only thing better is a proper 5th wheel trailer, but then you have no choice other than a pickup. Or a Chevy S10   
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towing in America sucks because rednecks can't do physics, case in point.
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Veeb0rg posted:Or a Chevy S10 Is that even road legal?
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OSI bean dip posted:Is that even road legal? No, but its probably a case of "they won't get cited until it fails spectacularly and someone dies" because law enforcement goes all  when it comes to a ticket they might actually have to go to court over.
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Oct 20, 2012 02:55
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OSI bean dip posted:Is that even road legal? He is using a 4x4 from the hitch to the tailgate after all. I think that's well over an above the 2x4 requirement in most states.
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No. It's way over the weight limit of the S-10 even if the hitch was in the proper place tied into the frame. I love the extra set of chains on the tailgate. Someone truly doesn't understand how much weight their dealing with, materials strength, or both.
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That must be one hell of an experience to drive. The front wheels look like they're barely touching the ground, I can't imagine that would be fun to take around corners.
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atomicthumbs posted:Who needs a trailer? Holden Torana Hatch Hutch. This was sold by the factory, to take advantage of the inexplicable Australian fascination with camping. 
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Memento1979 posted:Holden Torana Hatch Hutch. This was sold by the factory, to take advantage of the inexplicable Australian fascination with camping. They just like to screw outdoors. Nobody can fault them for that.
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veedubfreak posted:I was just going by what I could remember from the last time it cropped up in AI. If I recall someone said they saw one at a dealership for that price. I thought you might've been thinking of the Juke-R but nope, half a million for this dumbass car. 
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Slim Pickens posted:I thought you might've been thinking of the Juke-R but nope, half a million for this dumbass car. Don't you insult the Juke-R, I would buy that car if I won the lottery.
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The thing about the Juke-R, to me, is that you could just have one built for a lot less than the official product, including making it better in every way. A brand new Juke, GTR, and a thousand fabrication hours would be less than half the price.
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Memento1979 posted:Holden Torana Hatch Hutch. This was sold by the factory, to take advantage of the inexplicable Australian fascination with camping. My dad's Vega had something similar, apparently...and it could also be the one 'cool' feature that the Aztek had.
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InitialDave posted:The thing about the Juke-R, to me, is that you could just have one built for a lot less than the official product, including making it better in every way. Yeah, seriously. A brand new GTR is only a little over 100 grand, there's no way it costs 300+ thousand dollars to do an engine swap and make the car fit for the engine.
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Oct 20, 2012 21:40
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It does when you're paying actual engineers and doing all of the proper analysis and design.
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I don't know what this poor SLK did to deserve this. Yes, the driver looked exactly like you would expect to look. It was much brighter in person. We could see it 1/2 mile back in traffic.
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BlackMK4 posted:It does when you're paying actual engineers and doing all of the proper analysis and design. Then who designed the GTR?
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Godholio posted:Then who designed the GTR? You can't be serious right now. You seriously think there is even close to the same level of engineering in an engine swap as there is in a car which is the product of two different ones grafted together, safety tested, tooled for production, etc? This isn't some backyard hackjob. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Oct 20, 2012 |
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BlackMK4 posted:You can't be serious right now. You seriously think there is even close to the same level of engineering in an engine swap as there is in a car which is the product of two different ones grafted together, safety tested, tooled for production, etc? This isn't some backyard hackjob. A very limited production run makes these costs soar per unit built thus increases the cost of the unit.
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You know they're not actually built by Nissan, right? Or "tooled for production" in the way the base cars are? They're handbuilt by a company called RML here in the UK. The process is on a par with building a production-based race or rally car - expensive, yes, but you could bring it in for well under the £400k they're charging. That's about how much a WRC car costs. They actually proved during development that lopping the length out of a GTR and stiching it back together, well, works. You really could commission someone to do that and put the resultant floorpan under a Juke shell and not be so far away from what they built. This isn't a "build something in your garage for £15k" argument, but a "get a specialist fabricator to build something for £250k" one, and I think that's perfectly realistic.
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G-Mach posted:A very limited production run makes these costs soar per unit built thus increases the cost of the unit. This. There's only, what, five Juke-Rs being built and sold? And how many thousand GT-Rs across how many years? It's like, if they only built 10 Veyrons, they'd probably cost a billion each instead of the $1.3 million they are now (which is still sold at loss).
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InitialDave posted:They're handbuilt by a company called RML here in the UK. The process is on a par with building a production-based race or rally car - expensive, yes, but you could bring it in for well under the £400k they're charging. That's about how much a WRC car costs.
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slidebite posted:A WRC rally car =/ street car with all necessary safety equipment and testing.
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