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I think it's number 2 really. Conservative is Ken Demeyer from Buffalo and Shock is Richard Garcia of Florida somewhere. Conservative just puppets his poo poo.
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duck monster posted:I only came unstuck when I made a thread praising Stalin for his attitude on Jews. Also, Mind Loving Owl posted:Have Jews ever been an issue on the site? That's a confused issue for these sorts of people. Don't think that would work, since Conservapedia seems pretty firmly rooted in the "we love Jews and want them to have their own homeland to fulfill the prophecies of the Book of Revelation so that Jesus can come back and all the Jews finally get what's coming to them" camp. Edit: Oh poo poo guys, that Greatest Conservative Movie page. Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies, subheader "Debatable Whether Great" posted:The Room: Liquid Dinosaur fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Oct 20, 2012 |
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The Greatest Conservative Novels first two listings never fail to amuse me: Animal Farm, and 1984. You know, written by that great conservative figure, George Orwell...oh wait. I must be confusing my Orwells, because George Orwell, the author of Animal Farm and 1984 was a life-long socialist. Luckily for me, Conservepdia can account for this seeming discrepencey: quote:The tension between the conservative Orwell grew to become, and the democratic socialist he still allowed others to view him as, may account for some of his interesting word inventions like "doublethink". Because of his liberal past, Orwell's increasingly conservative writings were accepted and praised by the clueless liberal intelligentsia. Oh well, I guess he was a closet conservative then...when he was presenting his views on a unified, socialist federal Europe, and when he continued to espouce those views throughout his life and writings. Silly me. And now I present to you all, Conservepedia's worst liberal books: quote:The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Inspired communist atrocities that killed millions.
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Oct 20, 2012 21:50
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Pesky Splinter posted:The Greatest Conservative Novels first two listings never fail to amuse me: Animal Farm, and 1984. You know, written by that great conservative figure, George Orwell...oh wait. I must be confusing my Orwells, because George Orwell, the author of Animal Farm and 1984 was a life-long socialist. They don't understand that Stalin wasn't a liberal or a socialist just because he controlled a communist country. It's the core of a lot of their stupid conspiracy nonsense, that Stalinist Russia somehow represents what liberals and progressives want the world to be.
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Oct 20, 2012 23:01
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colonelslime posted:They don't understand that Stalin wasn't a liberal or a socialist just because he controlled a communist country. It's the core of a lot of their stupid conspiracy nonsense, that Stalinist Russia somehow represents what liberals and progressives want the world to be. You could fill books with the poo poo these cretins don't understand. I'm surprised that they haven't done so already, to be honest.
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Oct 21, 2012 00:45
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At a certain point, this stops being "look at what the bigoted fools are saying!" and starts being us making fun of a few mentally ill people. The more Andy kicks out anyone who disagrees with him and starts going further and further outside then norm, the more it shifts that way. I'm starting to feel bad about this thread because it is really getting the feel of the latter.
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Fried Chicken posted:At a certain point, this stops being "look at what the bigoted fools are saying!" and starts being us making fun of a few mentally ill people. The more Andy kicks out anyone who disagrees with him and starts going further and further outside then norm, the more it shifts that way. I'm starting to feel bad about this thread because it is really getting the feel of the latter. Yo, mentally ill person here. It's perfectly possible to be mentally ill and not be an actively harmful shitstain of a human being like Andy is. He hurts children by filling their minds with poison and hatred. It's not wrong to make fun of him, and it never will be.
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Oct 21, 2012 01:13
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Fried Chicken posted:At a certain point, this stops being "look at what the bigoted fools are saying!" and starts being us making fun of a few mentally ill people. The more Andy kicks out anyone who disagrees with him and starts going further and further outside then norm, the more it shifts that way. I'm starting to feel bad about this thread because it is really getting the feel of the latter. As long as they're actively promoting and teaching harmful, dishonest poo poo to anyone dumb enough to listen to them, I see no reason to feel bad for watching the show.
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Oct 21, 2012 04:15
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A simpler time in American history? They really said that. Didn't a survey show most kids back then thought they'd die in a missile attack?
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Yo, mentally ill person here. It's perfectly possible to be mentally ill and not be an actively harmful shitstain of a human being like Andy is. He hurts children by filling their minds with poison and hatred. It's not wrong to make fun of him, and it never will be. Good point, and it's also important not to infantilize or patronize the mentally ill simply because they have psychiatric diagnoses. Not everything they say or do can be attributed to whatever psychiatric problems they have, some people are just morons and/or assholes who happen to have mental health problems as well. Sure, some people might be socially awkward and come off negatively due to their mental illnesses, but that doesn't necessarily hold for everyone with similar diagnoses. I work in mental health and people with psychological problems frequently complain about other people attributing their legitimate feelings and thoughts to mental illness when there is a disagreement. colonelslime posted:They don't understand that Stalin wasn't a liberal or a socialist just because he controlled a communist country. It's the core of a lot of their stupid conspiracy nonsense, that Stalinist Russia somehow represents what liberals and progressives want the world to be. Stalin really wasn't all that much of a diehard communist or leftist as much he was egocentric and megalomaniacal. Communism was mostly just the tool he used to obtain dictatorial power. If Russia had been leaning towards a right-wing fascist revolution he probably would have been a fascist, because that's where the national sentiment would have been going and what would have allowed him to rise to power. It's kind of like how conservatives like to paint all atheists as communists and blame all atheists by association for the crimes of communist regimes, especially those which victimized religious groups. Sure, Marx and Engels weren't fond of organized religion by a long shot, but antagonism and violence directed towards religion by communist regimes were much more about eliminating potential threats to their unilateral power and control than some kind of ideological opposition (i.e. militant atheism) towards those specific religions.
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Oct 21, 2012 04:18
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Mind Loving Owl posted:A simpler time in American history? They really said that. Didn't a survey show most kids back then thought they'd die in a missile attack? I'd put 50-50 odds on that being a troll, seriously. Same with the inclusion of The Room.
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Oct 21, 2012 04:34
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Space Jam is a movie about an intergalactic capitalist that is going to assume control of the looney toons planet, also they seek out Michael Jordan. What the gently caress how do you not understand space jam, conservapedia
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Oct 21, 2012 04:36
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Fried Chicken posted:At a certain point, this stops being "look at what the bigoted fools are saying!" and starts being us making fun of a few mentally ill people. The more Andy kicks out anyone who disagrees with him and starts going further and further outside then norm, the more it shifts that way. I'm starting to feel bad about this thread because it is really getting the feel of the latter. They are mentally ill? Where did you get that info? If its just from their opinions, well that is kind of a dumb assumption to make. Plus a little insulting.
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CharlestheHammer posted:They are mentally ill? Where did you get that info? If its just from their opinions, well that is kind of a dumb assumption to make. Plus a little insulting. I think there's a consensus here that at the very least Conservative is mentally ill, pretty much based on the logs of his edit binges where he goes something like 36 hours straight editing Conservapedia entries. This is likely indicative of some kind of manic episode(s).
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Oct 21, 2012 05:45
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This is it. We've reached a point where people are white-knighting Conservapedians.
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Oct 21, 2012 05:57
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So John Simms is dancing around with a distinctly unhappy old man, and some beach balls with the most precious voices are falling out of the sky.
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I don't know about "white knighting" them but I can relate with progressing from mocking to pity. I used to post a lot more than I do now. There's just as much ridiculous poo poo now, but I've gotten used to it.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:A simpler time in American history? They really said that. Didn't a survey show most kids back then thought they'd die in a missile attack? This is a commonplace among even centrists and some liberals. The 1950s were the last period before Vietnam, before the Civil Rights Movement really took off, before feminism, before the anti-war protests, before the deaths of the Kennedys and Martin Luther King Jr., etc. Ignoring that the Civil Rights Movement and feminism had their roots in the 1950s, or the shadow of nuclear war, we can say that the 1950s seemed to be a far more innocent time for the nation, when we could pretend that we had solved all the problems of society and were building a bright and shiny future. And although people who grew up in the 1950s are in their 60s and 70s today, younger generations have absorbed this conceit, and to a much greater extent- after all, the people who lived through the 50s knew that people were loving and smoking weed and drinking underage and getting killed. They remember the terror of the Bomb. They were the young protesters in the 1960s. Younger generations that grew up under detente or came of age with the fall of the Berlin Wall can thus take only what they want to take, having it all secondhand and largely censored.
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Yo, mentally ill person here. It's perfectly possible to be mentally ill and not be an actively harmful shitstain of a human being like Andy is. He hurts children by filling their minds with poison and hatred. It's not wrong to make fun of him, and it never will be. I did not mean to imply that being mentally ill intrinsically made someone behave like them. I was however being patronizing towards them, and as Bruce Leroy pointed out that's wrong of me as well. mintskoal posted:This is it. We've reached a point where people are white-knighting Conservapedians. I suppose I was conflating the two for similar outlooks, while ignoring the fact that those people mainly only hurt themselves through their worldview, while Andy and Conservative are hurting others because this material is being used as a series of textbooks.
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Oct 21, 2012 06:08
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nsaP posted:I think it's number 2 really. Conservative is Ken Demeyer from Buffalo and Shock is Richard Garcia of Florida somewhere. Conservative just puppets his poo poo. There was also an incident where he was apparently confused over whether Shock should be mentioned in first or third person, so...
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nsaP posted:No you're not doing it right, with an edit like that you're already banned. UppityNegress fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Oct 21, 2012 |
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Oct 21, 2012 17:28
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Well at this point the fast majority of the links on the front page point to the question evolution blog and creation.org. The only conservapedia links on the front page are incidental. Conservative
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As an apology for posts that earned me the big red title, I present, pain. http://www.conservapedia.com/Mystery:Why_Do_Non-Conservatives_Exist%3F
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Mind Loving Owl posted:As an apology for posts that earned me the big red title, I present, pain. Statistical Analysis (estimates) perfect
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I remember reading them bashing John Howard for being liberal... Which is the name for the more right wing party of the big two in Australia. Edit: Though by American conservative standards they're pretty centre. Mind Loving Owl fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Oct 21, 2012 |
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Oct 21, 2012 18:18
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Mind Loving Owl posted:As an apology for posts that earned me the big red title, I present, pain. quote:They made up their mind before hearing conservative principles, and will not reconsider their views. 
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modig posted:Statistical Analysis From the talk page: "It's an estimate, and a work in progress. Do you doubt its truth? Perhaps you're simply saying that a liberal newspaper would not admit this, and you'd be right about that. But the truth is not constrained by what liberals will admit.--aschlafly" This man teaches children.
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quote:They made up their mind before hearing conservative principles, and will not reconsider their views. Also isn't obeying the customs and beliefs of your elders the definition of conservatism?
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Precambrian posted:From the talk page: Holy crap, there is no limit to his madness. This is the sort of stuff I'd expect from someone suffering from paranoid delusions.
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CommieGIR posted:Holy crap, there is no limit to his madness. This is the sort of stuff I'd expect from someone suffering from paranoid delusions. And he isn't suffering from them? Also kids, screen your good ol Christian boy breeding mare for ideological purity http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:Marry_a_Conservative Personally I love the parable about the poor conservative man had had to fight for an annulment, so he may avoid the stink of divorce. Andy is like a child, divorce is evil and smelly, but an annulment isn't just like it so you can do it and still be a good conservative. Mind Loving Owl fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 21, 2012 |
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Mind Loving Owl posted:And he isn't suffering from them? I'm liberal and yet I have not started binge drinking or caught an STD from my wife.... WHATS WRONG WITH ME?!? I love how the Marry a Conservative Article cites itself.
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I shouldn't read this thread... because then I do thing like this:Marry a Conservative posted:However, Ralph belonged to a church that does not accept divorce, and it took him another four grueling years to obtain an annulment. Marry a Conservative posted:What caused the infertility can never be known with certainty, but it is known that about half of promiscuous people carry sexually transmitted diseases, and that these diseases can cause infertility. Marry a Conservative posted:Then, around age 50, Bob decided he'd like to date younger women. He divorced Beth against her wishes, and now she lives alone. Marry a Conservative posted:Stan's circle of friends and acquaintances were limited, and he thought all women were liberal. He married Elizabeth thinking that all women were liberal like her. Marry a Conservative posted:She confronted Bill who admitted that he considered himself bisexual and had been involved in several homosexual affairs while married to Kate. Marry a Conservative posted:These people had frequent access to John and Nancy's apartment. One day, while John and Nancy were on vacation, Nancy's drug-dealing "friends" let themselves in and stole nearly everything they owned. modig fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Oct 21, 2012 |
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Mind Loving Owl posted:And he isn't suffering from them? Holy mackerel, this is one hell of a parable. quote:Elizabeth was a smart liberal who knew she would be better off marrying a conservative than a liberal like herself. She found one in Stan, a conservative who was a very hard worker and who did not have the luxury of time to develop the social skills that Elizabeth had. Just, what the gently caress? Stan marries a liberal and spends his life with her and then she dies and oh boy! I don't even have some sort of incisively witty response to this, it's just  e; This particular series of essays has to be a parody. quote:John attended a Conservative college, where he met Nancy, who attended a liberal college in the same city. The two dated, and developed strong feelings for one another, despite their large differences in their values. Nancy, an atheist, convinced John that she loved him, and that he loved her. Having expected it from her earlier, more liberal, boyfriends, Nancy convinced John to have pre-marital sex, despite his misgivings. They used contraception, but being imperfect, it failed, and Nancy became pregnant. John then proposed to Nancy and the two were soon married. Nancy knew some drug dealers, since drug dealers rob people (????), she went to prison for it. Thank God that happened or their child would never have been deprived of his stinking liberal mother. e2; This is really one of those pages where everything should just be bolded. quote:Kate was a conservative woman who fell in love with Bill, a liberal man. Bill convinced her to marry him despite her parents' strong objections. Ten years later, Kate began to suffer from strange bouts of lethargy and sickness. Several trips to the doctor were unable to find a cause, until he performed a blood test. It turned out that Kate had AIDS. She confronted Bill who admitted that he considered himself bisexual and had been involved in several homosexual affairs while married to Kate. He was tested as well, and also was HIV positive, but the disease had not progressed to AIDS. Kate divorced and is now forced to take a battery of medications to delay the inevitable. Liberals give you aids. 
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Bruce Leroy posted:I think there's a consensus here that at the very least Conservative is mentally ill, pretty much based on the logs of his edit binges where he goes something like 36 hours straight editing Conservapedia entries. This is likely indicative of some kind of manic episode(s). I've for a while been pushing the argument that Conservative has legit mental problems. Nobody trolls ''that'' hard, and even stupid people have a practical limit and some limited sense of self awareness. I'm not a psych expert, but the sheer number of regurgitated-content articles seems to indicate some obsessive issues. For another horrifying look at his mentality, make sure you read Friday's blog post 10 reasons why young earth creationists have bigger families than many evolutionists and will overrun evolutionists. The implied emotional suffering on the part of the author there is tragi-hilarious. It's hard to even distill out the highlights, so you should read the whole thing, but here are a few of the crazier bits: quote:One of the definitions of machismo is an "exhilarating sense of power or strength". Liberal Protestant men lack machismo! Young earth creationist men are stronger, more virile and have mucho machismo! There is a thin line between partisan vitriol and unbalanced ranting, and Conservative hurdles across it as though it were a chasm. Can you seriously read this and think "why yes, this appears to be written by a balanced adult who is no doubt happily married, employed, and raising a large and functional family" ? What's the term for the syndrome when socially maladjusted guys do the whole "women are stupid bitches who don't realise how awesome I am... I wish I had a sweet nice girlfriend." Not quite Madonna-Whore Syndrome, but something akin. That's what I see in "young earth creationist wives are sweet, adorable and irresistible to their loving creationist husbands" and I momentarily feel bad for this dillweed.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:I've for a while been pushing the argument that Conservative has legit mental problems. Nobody trolls ''that'' hard, and even stupid people have a practical limit and some limited sense of self awareness. I'm not a psych expert, but the sheer number of regurgitated-content articles seems to indicate some obsessive issues. This is so over the top, I'd have to swear the guy is a massive troll.... But its real. Holy crap how do they even SAY stuff like this, then think about what they said and believe it was a well thought out argument.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:What's the term for the syndrome when socially maladjusted guys do the whole "women are stupid bitches who don't realise how awesome I am... I wish I had a sweet nice girlfriend." Not quite Madonna-Whore Syndrome, but something akin. That's what I see in "young earth creationist wives are sweet, adorable and irresistible to their loving creationist husbands" and I momentarily feel bad for this dillweed. Cognative dissonance? Misogyny? Fake edit: Actually, Madonna–whore complex is right. [e]: Ah, okay. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Oct 21, 2012 |
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Pesky Splinter posted:Cognative dissonance? Misogyny? I have the feeling that the guy doesn't actually have a significant other.
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