KayTee posted:

This:



Several emails along these lines have been sent.

Meaning that there's some poor sod in a police station in London, Ontario Canada is scratching his head and asking: "Who're dees fuckwits, eh?"

KayTee posted:

KayTee posted:

gently caress it - here's the cliffnotes:



53 arrests, including Tommeh, Kev Carroll and Michael Wood - this you know.

All released on bail, with orders not to enter East London untill told otherwise - That's hosed their next demo.

Kev's arest comes less than 24 hours after he'd forked over his £5k deposit and 100 signature application to be PCC. We don't know how this will affect his claim or his deposit.

Tommeh arrested again for alleged assault on Sayful Islam (The mouthpiece of Islam 4 UK/Muslims Against Crusades/Al Majouroon/Nutters 'R Us)

Tommeh arrested again on suspicion of fraud with re: Entering the US over 9/11 to pally around with Pam Geller. (The EDL page has the begging plate out)

This:



Several emails along these lines have been sent.

Meaning that there's some poor sod in a police station in London, Ontario Canada is scratching his head and asking: "Who're dees fuckwits, eh?"

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

What the hell happened to google?

Cerv posted:

I'd love to see the canned response that eventually gets copied to all these guys.

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Stephen Lennon, (29 - 27/11/82), unemployed, of Bedford appeared in custody at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Monday, 22 October charged with possession of a false identity document with improper intention (contrary to Section Identity Documents Act 2010).

He was remanded in custody to appear at Southwark Crown Court on a date in January 2013.

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Possession of false identity documents etc with improper intention

(1)It is an offence for a person (“P”) with an improper intention to have in P's possession or under P's control—
(a)an identity document that is false and that P knows or believes to be false,
(b)an identity document that was improperly obtained and that P knows or believes to have been improperly obtained, or
(c)an identity document that relates to someone else.
(2)Each of the following is an improper intention—
(a)the intention of using the document for establishing personal information about P;
(b)the intention of allowing or inducing another to use it for establishing, ascertaining or verifying personal information about P or anyone else.
(3)In subsection (2)(b) the reference to P or anyone else does not include, in the case of a document within subsection (1)(c), the individual to whom it relates.
(4)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable, on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or a fine (or both).

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/40/section/4

Zero Gravitas posted:

There is something deliciously ironic about Tommy Robinson using a forged passport while accusing illegal immigrants of doing the same.

British Freedom's bullshit press release posted:

We have just heard that Tommy Robinson has been incarcerated in London’s Wandsworth Prison, sharing a cell with Muslims on a wing full of Muslims screaming death threats at him.

This is how the authorities react to those who try to warn Britain of the greatest threat to national peace and security since the Second World War.

The British Government is hereby forewarned that should any harm come to Tommy Robinson in prison, they will be held to account.

The Government has a duty of care to all prisoners, not to go out of their way to place them in potential danger for vindictive or political reasons.

British Freedom are actively seeking the advice of lawyers on this matter. Meanwhile, we invite all friends and supporters of Tommy Robinson to write your messages of friendship and support below; we will do our best to convey them to him to strengthen him in this difficult time.

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By George Whale, 21:20 Monday

I have just received an urgent telephone call from British Freedom leader Paul Weston who has been arrested outside Wormwood Scrubs Prison.

Speaking from the back of a police van being driven to an unknown destination, Paul hurriedly informed me that he and a friend had travelled to the prison in West London this evening with the aim of visiting Tommy Robinson, or at least assuring themselves of his well-being.

Speaking through a glass panel they had asked officers at the prison to confirm that Tommy was being held there, but they refused to provide this information, citing the ‘Data Protection Act’. Paul and his friend again demanded to know where Tommy was being held, and at that point both were charged with breach of the peace, arrested and bundled into the police van.

Our conversation was cut off with Paul loudly remonstrating to an unidentified individual, “take your hands off me!”

We will update you on the situation as it unfolds.

KayTee posted:

Lion Heart is going for the hyperbole grand prize:

Lamuella posted:

Protesting the wrong prison. I love this.

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English Defence League’s Tommy Robinson remanded to prison for allegedly entering the U.S. illegally, making extradition a strong possibility

Even worse, Tommy has been denied any help with legal aid by the UK fascist government dhimmis. With Tommy having all his accounts frozen, he has no access to any monies for legal representation!

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Tommy had never been denied entry to the U.S. until Barack Hussein Obama took office. He came here in Sept. 2010 to speak at the protest against the Ground Zero Victory Mosque, but was denied entry as soon as he landed at JFK. On September 11th, this year, he came to NYC, using a borrowed passport, to speak at Pamela Geller’s Stop Islamization of Nations (SION) symposium. Below is Tommy’s speech:

Tias posted:

Why couldn't he just order a regular passport? Is there any merit to the idea that a western nation would deny him entrance?

Tias posted:

Why couldn't he just order a regular passport? Is there any merit to the idea that a western nation would deny him entrance?

Mokotow posted:

How does one use a borrowed passport, exactly? I thought the whole point of it is that it's suppoused to be your document. Sounds more like a counterfeiting job.

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We're not angry, we're very disappointed...

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The recent arrest of EDL Leader Tommy Robinson really stinks.

It stinks because it has so obviously come about as a result of political pressure.

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It stinks because he is currently being held alongside numerous Muslim inmates who have already made it clear that they don’t exactly wish him well.

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And it stinks because it is all part of a long-fought campaign to silence both Tommy and the EDL.

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Tommy has been dragged from one court to another – almost always without any serious chance of conviction

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Convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour 24/08/2010 at Luton Vs Newport County. Luton magistrates sentenced Lennon to a 12-month community rehabilitation order, a three-year ban from football and ordered him to carry out 150 hours of unpaid work.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-15313902

Convicted of assault on Alan McKee at Blackburn EDL demo 02/04/11. 12 week sentence suspended 12 months, 150 hour community order £200 costs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-15117961
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/edl-leader-stephen-lennon-given-89446


He was in court and charged with a public order offence during Armistice Day in Kensington last year, when Muslim extremists burned poppies. http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/fu.../#ixzz1MMw1ZUSJ

http://exposingon.tumblr.com/post/5399617246/tommyincourtpublicorderoffense

Arrested for Trespass after a rooftop protest at FIFA HQ, Zurich Switzerland. Fined £2300 plus £700 costs after serving three days in prison. http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/local/edl_members_fined_over_rooftop_protest_1_3252965

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In one sense it works, because it means we have to spend a lot of time and money on legal appeals, when we would much rather spend it on serious campaigning and on organising demonstrations.

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This [arresting EDL criminals] is encouraged by our opponents – by Islamists, the far Left, and others who care more about demonising people than they do having a fair and open debate.

They call us names – ‘racists’, ‘fascists’, ‘Islamophobes’ – none of which actually describe what we believe or what we stand for, but which are hard to dispel.

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Their job is made far easier whenever we do not show a united front.

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In fact, we are one of the most important forces in the battle against far Right extremism.

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I am greatly dismayed to learn of your decision to exclude British Freedom candidate Mr Kevin Carroll from the recent Victim Support event in Flitwick for Bedfordshire Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) candidates.

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You reportedly also said: “As a charity we have no statutory obligation to invite all candidates in the same way as other organisations. We did not want to, and we weren’t prepared to engage with their [British Freedom's] candidate”.

Weren’t prepared to engage? Are you serious? With victim satisfaction in Bedfordshire officially the second worst in the country, should you not be listening to ideas from all who offer constructive input, not just those whose politics you approve of?

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By what right do you, as a representative of a publicly funded body, distort the democratic process by selectively denying candidates access to a publicly reported forum,

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“As a charity we have no statutory obligation to invite with all candidates in the same way as other organisations.

“We did not want to, and we weren’t prepared to engage with their candidate.”

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How is it that none of the trustees or managers of Victim Support (and none of the invited candidates for that matter) raised even a murmur of protest at the politically motivated exclusion of the British Freedom candidate?

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Victim Support performs important roles on behalf of victims of crime in Bedfordshire, and will continue to do so with the active support of the new Commissioner. In order that we may rectify your regrettable omission I would like to extend to you an open invitation to answer the above questions in a public forum; to allow Mr Carroll the same opportunity as the other candidates to present his ideas on improving support for victims and witnesses in Bedfordshire; and to allow him the same opportunity as other candidates to sign up to your ‘five pledges’ to crime victims.

I look forward to your early reply.

Yours sincerely

Dr George Whale

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Dear Community Members

I would like to take this opportunity to update you on the arrest of English Defence League (EDL) members on Saturday 20 October and the proposed March and Demonstration in Waltham Forest on Saturday 27 October.

- As part of the pre-event investigation and disruption activity prior to the proposed EDL march in Waltham Forest on Saturday 27 October, MPS police officers arrested 53 people on Saturday 20 October. The bulk of the arrests were for Conspiracy to Cause a Public Nuisance.

- The vast majority were released on police bail until the end of November with a variety of conditions, including:

- not to enter the London Boroughs of Islington, Tower Hamlets, Waltham Forest and Newham;
- not to enter London on Saturday 27 October or Sunday 11 November;
- not to attend any demonstrations or assemblies.

- The MPS has dedicated a large number of resources to the pre-event investigation and will police any future demonstrations with a proportionate number of resources

- In relation to any application to seek a ban from the Home Secretary, the MPS has always and will continue to consider all options in relation to the proposed demonstration.

The available intelligence, legality and ability to enforce any such application for a ban is constantly under review. Although the MPS hasn’t been able to exercise this option to date, the decision remains on our agenda.

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During my time of temporary detention for allegedly "conspiring to cause a public nuisance" which has caused me much stress and inconvenience, I have to say a massive thank you to all those proud patriots who have stuck by me and Tommy. Through thick and thin, through the good times and the bad we have continued in our struggle to battle against many enemies, be they violent Islamists, the far left and the very real and very present far right, we continue to battle.

We battle because we really do know what is at stake, it's our children's futures, their children's futures, the battle of equality and civil liberties, it's about pushing back an intolerant and backward ideology that discriminates against non Muslims, an ideology that believes its ok to beat women, murder homosexuals, rape our children, and hate anything about western culture and western values, namely democracy and freedom of speech

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There aren't enough words in the English dictionary that can describe the bravery of genuinely loyal and patriotic EDL members,

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It is however somewhat tempered with a disturbing reality, I say this with a heavy heart because I feel compelled to, and I wish I didn't have to but now is the right time to say it. I have not come this far, or fought so hard at much personal cost to allow false patriots to dictate the direction or ethos of the EDL.

Tommy mentioned in his speech at Walsall certain groups and individuals who seem intent on ruining our grass roots street movement, people with alternative agendas, people serving the interests of groups who want to ride on the back of our success, people who want to entice our members to serve a different goal, a different agenda, they spread their poison and their gossip amongst the rank and file of the EDL, they are vermin.

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I have heard people say "why" another collection for funds to help Tommy fight his extradition to the USA?

I really can't believe the question was even asked! For gods sake the lad is on his arse on remand with no money, no legal council, no legal aid, his family living in fear on a daily basis, his children threatened, his wife threatened, and yet some idiots are complaining about raising funds for a lad who sticks his fingers up to the establishment, a lad who leads from the front getting up close and personal with violent islamists on a daily basis.

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Some people think they are above the EDL, they think they are bigger and better than the EDL, they think they can lead the EDL but they do it behind a computer playing the big hard man, well that don't wash with me lads, I don't care if your from Essex or anywhere else for that matter, the bottom line is you would crumble under the pressures of leadership,

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POLICE had to be called in halfway through a planning committee meeting after far-right protesters became “abusive”.

Members of the English Defence League were at the meeting of Chelmsford Council’s planning committee and are said to have caused a disturbance.

Sly Pistachio posted:

This thread reminds me of something I've been pondering: are there any liberal anti-Islamic groups like this?

The association of Islamophobia with the right wing is always something that has baffled me. From what I've seen, Islamic culture has far more in common with conservativism than with liberalism.

Desert Bus posted:

As a citizen of the United States, I don't have a huge horse in this fight. I really am enjoying all the informative posts chronicling the amusing and public demise of a bumbling hate group though. So thanks a bunch!

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Our Mission

"Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have." Ronald Reagan

Our mission is to educate and unite Americans on understanding Islam and Exposing Sharia Law for the inhumane Treatment of Women , Honor Killings, Teaching Islam in Public Schools and other Stealth ways it is creeping in to our society. Islam is not just a religion but rather a doctrine of how Muslims are to live from Birth to Death and the law they follow is Sharia which is not a law that is compatible with the Constitution of the United States of America.

Our Vision is to expose Islam for it's true nature.. We will advocate for the Rights of every American to live in a free society without fear of retaliation for NOT following the Islamic faith.

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This is the Official USDL Website. This site is fully supported by the English Defence League and is the only affiliated USDL.

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PLEASE REMEMBER that one of the most common recruiting spots for Islam are prisons. And often it is the most radical Islamic clerics who go in to convert. Prisons are filled with very violent Muslims. Placing EDL Founder and champion of truth, Tommy Robinson in with Muslim prisoners is an attempt to get him killed. We must not remain silent on this. PLEASE HELP TOMMY

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In recent times we have seen the English Defence League rise from being a small group of lads from Luton into a huge and formidable force.

Lately a core team of egotists have ruined the organisation and alienated many members who have left.

We lay the blame firmly on the doorsteps of Hel Gower and Kevin Carroll.

Over the last weekend we have seen Hel Gower’s Facebook group grass up 53 good and loyal patriots who now have possible charges awaiting them. These were good and honest foot soldiers, loyal to the cause, the finest of the fine who would stand by leadership every step of the way.

The evidence of the grassing is here on Gower’s group, Unplugged Debate where she flirts with lefties


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The way they were sent into trap was disgusting.

Last night was the final straw when Carroll mugged Essex Division off by referring to them as ‘Fake patriots’ and ‘vermin’.

Why would Gower do such a thing? She is a control freak and with Tommy out of the way she has more control over the movement and more opportunity to alienate the core supporters as she has done over the last two years.

Whilst Tommy has not always played the right cards and we would like to stand loyal to him, he is no use to the movement whilst in prison. Going to the United States on a fake passport was suicide. The return to Walthamstow is probably one of the worst decisions he has made and the fact that they are going back to that Islamic hellhole is putting the lives of every loyal patriot at risk.

We are a group of disaffected and loyal supporters including three regional officers and we think that unless we take charge of the EDL, the movement will have vanished within the next few weeks.

We are not going to state who we are until Sunday when we can access the damage Walthamstow has caused us.

This is our ten point plan to get the movement back on it’s feet again and take back our streets.

The organisation will be fully accountable and finances will be transparent

We will not leave any member behind. If a member is in trouble with the police they will get as much financial support as a leader would get. No member will be forgotten about, mugged off and left to rot in prison.

We will be going back to basics and the new leadership will lead demonstrations from the front.

We will have a Division for each county in England. There will be no divisional split below that. Divisions cause division so the less the better.

There will be no Angel’s Division or ‘Head Angel’ as the current people involved have done more harm to the EDL than anything else in the movement.

Good patriots will be welcomed back. Anyone who stands for our values will stand with us. We draw a line at Nazis though.

We will work with other groups that share our values for fundraising and new ideas
We will focus recruitment on key area of the country where we are sadly lacking numbers, London being a priority.

We shall focus on getting members elected into positions where they can make a difference to run paralel to the street movement if they show the desire and we will back them financially.

We will listen to each and every member and will be holding a meeting in your area for all to come along at least three times a year. Each meeting will be attended by a RO. Leaders and ROs will be elected with full transparency.

This is a very real last chance to save the organisation and stop England turning into an Islamic hell hole governed by Sharia law. Join us for the future of your children.

KayTee posted:

Well, I guess it's my pleasure to introduce you to the United States of America Defense League!

They were formed, give-or-take, in May this year...


It is worth noing that on the discussion page on BareNakedIslam it came to light in the comments that there as already a USADL - Hence this one carries the slogan in its banner:


All that's missing is a "FACT!"

Here's their facebook page

Sly Pistachio posted:

This thread reminds me of something I've been pondering: are there any liberal anti-Islamic groups like this?

The association of Islamophobia with the right wing is always something that has baffled me. From what I've seen, Islamic culture has far more in common with conservativism than with liberalism.

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Minister for Policing Damian Green said:

"Having carefully considered the legal tests and balanced rights to protest against the need to ensure local communities and property are protected, I have given my consent to a ban on all marches in Waltham Forest and three nearby boroughs for a 30-day period.

"I know the Metropolitan Police are committed to using their powers to ensure communities and properties are protected.”

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We thank the Home Office for banning the English Defence League (EDL) from marching in Waltham Forest and support the Police as they urge the public to stay away from counter demonstrations.

The Police are very clear that the ban applies to any group, not just the EDL, and our primary concern is the safety of ordinary residents who have been caught up in this ongoing nightmare.

We understand that the Metropolitan Police has told the EDL that they can only carry out a static protest outside the House of Commons on Saturday 27 October – ensuring that the far-right group does not enter Waltham Forest.

We call on everyone who had planned to demonstrate, especially those who have no connection to this borough, to stay away and allow the community to get back to normal.

Fandyien posted:

Does the EDL hate the BBC? I thought they had a boner for all things British, like the NHS/BBC/etc etc. Also just wanna add that I love this thread and your posts Kaytee, it's a source of constant amusement/interest for me.