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oval office AND PASTE posted:The amount of "not loving getting it" in this thread is staggering. I know. Seriously, though, I'm interested in a tablet mainly because I want a virtual notebook that I can take hand written notes in, if I could entirely replace my work laptop, that'd be great. It looks like the Surface Pro will be exactly what I need, in a very slick package. The other Win8 slates look too under powered to run the VM's that I need, or don't include a pen. Having a couple volume bars is not a show stopper. I've ran Win8 on my Thinkpad X220 (not touch) and another touch-enabled Thinkpad (can't remember the designation) but the dual volume bars didn't happen. Guess it's just the included audio chipset drivers for that hardware includes the onscreen display, probably because it's just ported from Win7. You said yourself you didn't do any updates, so it's likely that if you updated to the newest drivers then maybe that will go away. Regardless, I find the Surface and the Type cover intriguing. I'm sorry you don't, though.
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oval office AND PASTE posted:The amount of "not loving getting it" in this thread is staggering. The point of the Windows 8 Tablet thread located in Inspect Your Gadgets: Complaining about idiosyncracies in the Windows 8 software; ranting about how hard to use the desktop version of OneNote is; discussing iPads
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angry_keebler posted:Any time you have an opportunity to use your built in keyboard on your surface you'd be better off using an ergonomic keyboard. The surface type or touch cover isn't going to be usable in your lap precisely because it isn't a weighted stiff-hinged design like the transformers or some of the oem win8 tabs. If you're setting up on a flat surface, use a real keyboard. Thanks, but I'm not carrying around something that's twice the size of my tablet. The Touch Cover is going to be amazing.
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Rent posted:Thanks, but I'm not carrying around something that's twice the size of my tablet. The Touch Cover is going to be amazing.
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Blackula69 posted:You have no idea if this is true. Nobody does. You don't think anyone has played with a Touch Cover yet? quote:With the Touch Cover on, we were able to balance the Surface on a lap for typing like a notebook without it falling forward or tipping over backwards; compare this to the Asus Transformer Prime which always wants to fall backwards, and you'll appreciate this weighting. Lots of reviews and quick thoughts about it.
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Oct 22, 2012 05:02
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Supposedly review embargo will be lifted Tuesday, so we'll see actual reviews about it then. I'm hoping we'll see some reviews of the new x86 tablets as well.
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Thank Christ that guy got probated. I have my reservation ticket to pick up a SurfaceRT on Friday, and I'm stoked. gently caress the haters. I do wish the Surface Pro was coming out sooner, because it could probably replace my main laptop for everything I do that's not gaming-related (browsing/email/development), but I'm so excited to see how the RT stands up.
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Apparently some people are getting shipment notices. So I'm sure some people will get their Surface early. Doubtful I will, I'll be home on Friday but if it comes Thursday it won't matter. For some reason at my apartment complex UPS won't drop a package off at the office if you're not there on the first attempt. They will come back the next day and THEN drop it off if you're not there. Makes zero loving sense. I guess if I get the "out for delivery" status I can head home for a few hours.
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JPrime posted:Thank Christ that guy got probated. Yeah! gently caress people with contrary opinions! I only want to read things about Windows 8 that come straight from the Microsoft echo chamber 
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Oct 22, 2012 22:37
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Jerk McJerkface posted:I'm wondering if Microsoft, or a competitor, is going to introduce a fixed hinge transformer like keyboard cover that clicks into the Surface connector like the touch cover. Atleast for the Pro, it'd be very useful. I also wonder if the covers will be interchangable to work with the Pro. Given it's difference in thickness, I'm not sure how that would work. Lenovo Tablet 2
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Now this is interesting: Renders of a "Thinkpad Helix" with a dockable keyboard. Lenovo's i5/i7 tablet?    e: Source. "Thinkpad X1 Helix" Kazy fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Oct 22, 2012 |
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Kazy posted:eCost has pricing info for the Thinkpad Tablet 2: whatever7 posted:Lenovo Tablet 2 $746 w/ pen...ouch. I'm guessing the non-pen version doesn't have a slot for the pen, right? I'd be ahead to wait until the Pro comes out, and seeing the pricing on that. I'm very interested in the Samsung Slate, it has a pen and its only $650. If they have a flip cover for it, I'd be more interested, but I really like the Type Cover of the Surface. I had bulk covers, and I think the Type Cover is perfect. I don't know what to do. The Surface is expensive, but I love the design and cover. The other tablets are more featured, but lackluster design. EDIT: Also, the Samsung tablet is 11". I'd like something a little bit smaller. Really, though, I'm just going to get the Surface and then maybe sell it when the Pro comes out and get that. I have the money put aside, so I can afford to be a little irresponsible. Super-NintendoUser fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Oct 22, 2012 |
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Jerk McJerkface posted:$746 w/ pen...ouch. I'm guessing the non-pen version doesn't have a slot for the pen, right? I'd be ahead to wait until the Pro comes out, and seeing the pricing on that. I'm very interested in the Samsung Slate, it has a pen and its only $650. If they have a flip cover for it, I'd be more interested, but I really like the Type Cover of the Surface. I had bulk covers, and I think the Type Cover is perfect. I don't know what to do. The Surface is expensive, but I love the design and cover. The other tablets are more featured, but lackluster design. Lenovo is known for always running sales, so that'll probably be about 700 (or less) once you factor that in.
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Kazy posted:Lenovo is known for always running sales, so that'll probably be about 700 (or less) once you factor that in. I'm also employed a Lenovo reseller, so I can likely get it cheaper. EDIT: The thinkpad keyboard doesn't lock in, right? It's Bluetooth and it just sits in a groove, right? That makes it about as useful as the surface keyboard for me.. Super-NintendoUser fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Oct 22, 2012 |
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Ulysses S. Grant posted:Yeah! gently caress people with contrary opinions! I only want to read things about Windows 8 that come straight from the Microsoft echo chamber Just so its clear to everyone who didn't read the probation reason: You can be contrary without having an attitude that instigates flamewar trollishness. Thus the probation. When you post, try to post in a manner that's not going to devolve the thread into something unpleasant to read.
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Kazy posted:Lenovo is known for always running sales, so that'll probably be about 700 (or less) once you factor that in. Yeah, Lenovo keeps a basically fictional MSRP around so it can meet "x% off retail" requirements for various businesses and governments.
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evilweasel posted:Yeah, Lenovo keeps a basically fictional MSRP around so it can meet "x% off retail" requirements for various businesses and governments. I would guess it makes people more likely to buy, too. "Hey, this things on sale. BUY BUY BUY!" all the while Lenovo is making what it wanted to make to begin with.
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Thermopyle posted:I would guess it makes people more likely to buy, too. "Hey, this things on sale. BUY BUY BUY!" all the while Lenovo is making what it wanted to make to begin with. The problem is that Lenovo advertises with those deals and then when you click through the ads you have to add a bunch of stuff to the base price to make it worthwhile.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:$746 w/ pen...ouch. I'm guessing the non-pen version doesn't have a slot for the pen, right? I wonder what the size of the slot for the pens is going to be on all of the different tablets with wacom digitizers. Hopefully they aren't each different per OEM or all some weird new slim barrel styluses. I've got 7 medium barrel wacom pens but I only use 3-4 of them per day so I could probably get by with 1 or 2 of them dedicated to a tablet. I'd really like to see a 12-15 inch 16:9 or 16:10 win8 tablet in the $1000-$1200 range. A good digitizer at that size would be a pretty great cintiq replacement for smaller illustrations and would basically eliminate the need for me to drag a intuos with my laptop.
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angry_keebler posted:I wonder what the size of the slot for the pens is going to be on all of the different tablets with wacom digitizers. Hopefully they aren't each different per OEM or all some weird new slim barrel styluses. I've got 7 medium barrel wacom pens but I only use 3-4 of them per day so I could probably get by with 1 or 2 of them dedicated to a tablet. 12-15 inch tablet would be huge. I commute via train, and I like to have a tablet to use on the way home. The 7" Nexus was very nice, and I had a 10.1" Transformer for a while and I liked the hardware size. I think 10.1 is about all the larger I want to go.
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I wonder how many of your average consumer will get suckered into a Pro model because the salesperson at Best Buy says it wil open Facebook faster and download Youtube videos at blazing speeds? I like the Surface. I want my tablet to browse the web, look for porn, and play the occasional game on. RT models meet this requirement for me and will for many other people. I guess I am naive but I don't see your average tablet consumer buying the Surface RT and not getting use out of it that they want their tablet to be. I know, 
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Doomsday Jesus posted:
There aren't any porn sites on Metro IE's whitelist 
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Kazy posted:There aren't any porn sites on Metro IE's whitelist Is that good or bad?
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Jerk McJerkface posted:12-15 inch tablet would be huge. I commute via train, and I like to have a tablet to use on the way home. The 7" Nexus was very nice, and I had a 10.1" Transformer for a while and I liked the hardware size. I think 10.1 is about all the larger I want to go. Well, that's where the ipad 7.8/9.7 or nexus 7/10 or even kindles fit in. El-cheapo (< ~$300) tabs for dicking around with emails and content and full sized 13-15 inch laptop replacements for real work. Ten inch is way small for any serious work except maybe basic word processing. Adding a good quality digitizer to the x86-64 tabs is a master stroke if microsoft and the OEMs can take advantage of it before Apple decides they want to dominate the hybrid market decides to build the all new imacpadpro x64 retina tablet with super iWacom iStyluses.
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Doomsday Jesus posted:Is that good or bad? Bad. Flash on RT is limited to sites on a Microsoft whitelist. Think redtube and pornhub are going to be on that whitelist? I doubt it. edit: Wait, now I'm not sure. I can say for sure that neither Win8 nor WinRT will run unapproved flash applets in Metro IE10. "Desktop" IE10 on Win8 will naturally support it. But I can't figure out whether desktop IE10 on RT will play flash, and if so whether it will play unapproved flash. edit2: Windows RT does not support Silverlight in any way, lol. Magic Underwear fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Oct 23, 2012 |
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Magic Underwear posted:Bad. Flash on RT is limited to sites on a Microsoft whitelist. Think redtube and pornhub are going to be on that whitelist? I doubt it. Modern UI Internet Explorer 10 has a bespoke Flash plugin that is restricted to a pre-defined whitelist. I've seen movie ads in the Video app that, when clicked, take the user to a "browser not supported" page because links are opened with Modern UI IE10 and - surprise! - the movie's promo page isn't whitelisted. It's likely that Flash won't work in the Desktop Internet Explorer 10 on ARM as third party code isn't allowed into the emulated x86 playground. I can't say for sure, though.
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duTrieux. posted:Modern UI Internet Explorer 10 has a bespoke Flash plugin that is restricted to a pre-defined whitelist. I just played with the Asus RT tablet at BB and I should have turned on my tethering and tried it. Maybe tomorrow.
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Thermopyle posted:Just so its clear to everyone who didn't read the probation reason: You can be contrary without having an attitude that instigates flamewar trollishness. Thus the probation. To be fair, reading about people actually excited to spend money on a windows 8 tablet is pretty unpleasant. Does anyone else have experience with a windows 8 tablet? It would be nice to hear a more calm review of it.
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0xB16B00B5 posted:To be fair, reading about people actually excited to spend money on a windows 8 tablet is pretty unpleasant. I am pretty excited. I am really looking forward to get a atom tablet I can dualboot Android and real windows. As an aside, yesterday an old guy saw me using my Galaxy Note in subway. We started talking and he showed me his "first smartphone", a Galaxy S3. He seem to be pretty in love with his phone. It turned out he was a pretty hardcore tablet user. He has 2 Samsung W7 tablets from work (I think it was a Samsung Slate 7). He showed me the tablet. Even though I have owned multiple 10" and 11" Netbooks in the past, I was undecided on what size tablet I was going to buy. However the moment I saw his w7 tablet I knew instantly 11" was too big for me; and 16x9 was a wrong aspect ratio. Anyway we got talking and I said why didn't you install w8 on it? He said he hated the w8 interface, he said it was "sesame street". I thought that was pretty funny. I think I am going to wait till I can get a HP ElitePad at a decent price. Unless Acer have a really great deal then I will get it first.
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Magic Underwear posted:Bad. Flash on RT is limited to sites on a Microsoft whitelist. Think redtube and pornhub are going to be on that whitelist? I doubt it. I'm gonna find it pretty laughable if my mango windows phone will run redtube and youporn and all those sites flawlessly and a winRT tab won't.
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My number one concern with Windows 8 is watching porn on the go.
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Jerry SanDisky posted:My number one concern with Windows 8 is watching porn on the go. What about gambling? Apparently PC Mag accidentally put their Suface review up early, the final score was 4/5 but it was like 4 paragraphs of "if you like Office, it's a good buy" but it failed to mention anything about the typing experience on the keyboard cover.
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Dell XPS 10 is very interesting: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/XPS-10-tablet/pd?refid=xps-10-tablet&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=0&~ck=baynoteSearch&isredir=true Can't find if it includes the pen or not though.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Dell XPS 10 is very interesting: RT? I could have sworn Dell was doing a Clover Trail tablet.
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Engadget is saying an Office Depot cracked open a ASUS RT tablet early:Engadget posted:Want an early glimpse of the VivoTab RT without having to attend ASUS' special event? Thanks to our tipster, you've got it. An Office Depot has received at least one example of the Windows RT slate a full three days in advance. The short impressions: it's an "awesome" Tegra 3-packing tablet, although the OS reportedly chews up more than half of the 32GB of storage, and USB depends on an adapter if you're not relying on the keyboard. While price wasn't immediately available, we're not expecting retail to deviate greatly from the $599 pre-order formula. This has been hinted at before, god drat what is eating up so much space on Windows RT tablets? iOS takes up less than a gigabyte. Hopefully MS can strip out a bunch of junk pretty soon, this effectively makes their 32GB tablets comparable to 16GB iPads storage wise.
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Three Olives posted:Engadget is saying an Office Depot cracked open a ASUS RT tablet early: You have a windows installation plus a recovery partition.
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I am, frankly, terrified by how often people are conflating Windows 8 with Windows RT.
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duTrieux. posted:I am, frankly, terrified by how often people are conflating Windows 8 with Windows RT. Yea, like the people selling them 
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duTrieux. posted:I am, frankly, terrified by how often people are conflating Windows 8 with Windows RT. But you can't claim to be surprised.
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