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Yeah the thread is up here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3513217
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Why does he say no live stream?
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MrBigglesworth posted:Why does he say no live stream? The live stream announcement came this morning- it hasn't been updated yet. He generally closes these threads and everyone moves to that like one hour before the event. e: vv Pretty much right on time- 1:02 until event 
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Oct 23, 2012 15:42
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MrBigglesworth posted:Why does he say no live stream? 
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 Thread temporarily closed for a special Apple event!  Apple's holding a special event to debut the iPad Mini, a new iTunes, and some other cool stuff. Click the image or right here to head over to the event thread so you can discuss and follow along. We'll return as soon as the event's over. Thank you!
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New iMac's pretty good-lookin'. The iFixit teardown should be immensely entertaining.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:17
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Eager to see what the price is like on a Mac Mini with a Fusion drive. Kinda worried it'll double the base price.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:20
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redstormpopcorn posted:New iMac's pretty good-lookin'. The iFixit teardown should be immensely entertaining. Should be a lotta chipped / cracked glass is what I'm betting on. The only desktop to require a heat gun to open.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:22
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Seems confirmed that the 27" iMac's RAM is user-upgradeable. Which is something, at least.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:23
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Seems like the cheapest 21,5" iMac can't be bought with the fusion drive. Same with the Mac mini
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Oct 23, 2012 19:24
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...well, now I need to decide if I want a 13" rMBP or a refurb 15" rMBP.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:27
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Fusion Drives are an addition $250 to go from 1 TB spinning disk to 128 GB SSD + 872 GB Spinning Disk "fused" together. And its only avaiable on the $799 model, turning it into a $1049 Mini.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:28
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I'd love to see "fusion" options in Disk Utility.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:31
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RIP, Mac Mini with dedicated graphics. 2011-2012. You will be missed.
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Tenterhooks posted:Seems confirmed that the 27" iMac's RAM is user-upgradeable. Which is something, at least. 
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Oct 23, 2012 19:36
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FlashBangBob posted:Fusion Drives are an addition $250 to go from 1 TB spinning disk to 128 GB SSD + 872 GB Spinning Disk "fused" together. And its only avaiable on the $799 model, turning it into a $1049 Mini. Ugh, that's getting awful close to "might as well spring for the cheapest iMac" range. Decisions decisions.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:53
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Question regarding the Mac mini. So there doesn't seem to be any size difference between the regular and server flavours. Is there anything stopping someone from buying one of the non-server minis, opening it up and sticking a second 2.5" drive in there?
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Oct 23, 2012 19:54
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I think the SD slot on the back is a funky choice, even though it's likely a result of those super-thin tapered sides. Was the logic "hey, it works for the mini." Traditionally any physical media you'd put in a Mac goes in the front or the side, right?  In general, I'd really like not having to two-hand my iMac and scrape around on the aluminum until it finally fits in a port/slot. A friend of mine was trying to get me to make a 3D prototype of his napkin plans for an iMac USB hub that would reach-around and put some of your ports on the bottom rim. I didn't because I think it's dumb and it'd block the vents. Admittedly, I can't think of a solution that's not contrary to the whole point of the design.
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cbirdsong posted:RIP, Mac Mini with dedicated graphics. 2011-2012. You will be missed. And how! The Intel HD 4000 is okay, but if you can put Kepler-level GPUs in the iMacs.. 
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Oct 23, 2012 20:09
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terriyaki posted:Question regarding the Mac mini. Other than an Apple Store tech would likely refuse to service it because it's not what was originally sold to the person, but said person could always take out the extra drive before making the trip to the Fruit Stand.
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Oct 23, 2012 20:11
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kuskus posted:In general, I'd really like not having to two-hand my iMac and scrape around on the aluminum until it finally fits in a port/slot. A friend of mine was trying to get me to make a 3D prototype of his napkin plans for an iMac USB hub that would reach-around and put some of your ports on the bottom rim. I didn't because I think it's dumb and it'd block the vents. Admittedly, I can't think of a solution that's not contrary to the whole point of the design. Put a mirror behind the computer, angle it so you can see the ports. 
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Oct 23, 2012 20:12
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I know very little about the state of storage; is the fusion drive concept new? I know hybrid HDD/SSDs exist, but I'm not sure if the "the OS will allocate data intelligently" thing is a new spin.
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Oct 23, 2012 20:16
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The new iMac is just too thin. I imagine it's going to be a cooling nightmare, especially with the "kooky hybrid drive" setup. This is not a machine I'm going to be comfortable running FinalCut on for hours with heavy rendering. Any idea on how/when this will make the current models cheaper, to say nothing of the current refurbs? Hoping to grab an i7 27" of the current gen for $1500 or under now.
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Oct 23, 2012 20:17
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Oct 23, 2012 20:17
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Jesus Christ, I just bought a Mac Mini a few weeks ago. Time to take that poo poo back, I guess. I HOPE BEST BUY WON'T JUDGE ME FOR ALL THAT JAPANESE PORN I'VE ACQUIRED! Edit: What, what is this lack of a real graphic card?! Oxford Comma fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 23, 2012 |
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Oct 23, 2012 20:26
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BlackMK4 posted:...well, now I need to decide if I want a 13" rMBP or a refurb 15" rMBP. Yea. I don't know. Love the portability of my current 13", but I don't want another laptop with integrated graphics. Or do I? I wish the OS accepted third party SSDs better. As I would just chuck one in and go for another year.
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Oct 23, 2012 20:40
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I'm glad they're doing this fusion thing. It was kind of silly that for an extra $500, you could get a iMac with only 256gb SSD. Fast is good but not having a ton of HD space kind of defeats the purpose of having a desktop. I wish I could spec out an iMac to see how much it's going to be with a 2 or 3TB drive. $250 for a 1tb hybrid seems pretty reasonable.
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Oct 23, 2012 21:00
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Are fusion drives not available on the laptops?
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Lexicon posted:Are fusion drives not available on the laptops?
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Next year. Cool. That is the perfect setup right there.
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Lexicon posted:Are fusion drives not available on the laptops? You'd have to somehow figure out where you're going to put an SSD in the MBP (optical drive I guess)
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Boxman posted:I know very little about the state of storage; is the fusion drive concept new? I know hybrid HDD/SSDs exist, but I'm not sure if the "the OS will allocate data intelligently" thing is a new spin. Depends on the details. Intel's Smart Response Technology (SRT) tracks file access by LBA accesses, so only frequently-used data (not entire files, necessarily) is put into the cache. After a while, this amounts to OS boot files and launch portions of frequently-used programs, plus any frequently-loaded data. Optionally, SRT can also cache writes to hard drive by running them through the SSD first. Most self-contained hybrid drives also do LBA-based caching, but without any interaction with the OS or firmware. These drives usually just track data going in and out. Windows Vista and 7 actually have some additional OS-level support for hybrid drives to prioritize system data to the flash cache and ensure copies of data on both flash and disk (as it's largely the same idea as ReadyBoost). However, it's not clear if this support is the best that it can be, and the hybridization can be done outside of Windows' storage drivers entirely by third-party software. Whenever we move from ATA-7 (SATA and revisions) to ATA-8, the main new feature will be commands to directly access a cache on a hybrid device. Lacking any evidence, then, I'd say that Apple's implementation is probably a custom software stack with firmware support, like Intel SRT but not SRT itself. Apple has a lot of freedom to tweak the OS to provide hardware features (like Retina scaling), and that seems like an easier way to manage things than reinventing the Seagate Momentus XT.
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Bob Morales posted:You'd have to somehow figure out where you're going to put an SSD in the MBP (optical drive I guess) Or run a HDD + the little stick SSD thing.
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Oct 23, 2012 21:24
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Losing the option of a discrete gpu in the mini is sort of lame but from what I can see so far the intel graphics that it comes with now stacks up pretty decently in benchmarks to whats out there.
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Syano posted:Losing the option of a discrete gpu in the mini is sort of lame but from what I can see so far the intel graphics that it comes with now stacks up pretty decently in benchmarks to whats out there. How does it compare to the GPU in the 2011 Mac Mini? The 6630M?
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Oct 23, 2012 21:30
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Oxford Comma posted:How does it compare to the GPU in the 2011 Mac Mini? The 6630M? I looked at notebookcheck's chart of games on various GPUs and it looks like a pretty big downgrade unfortunately.
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Oct 23, 2012 21:35
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Oxford Comma posted:How does it compare to the GPU in the 2011 Mac Mini? The 6630M? It's a big improvement over the base 2011 Mini, but well behind the 6630M. 2011 base 2011 with 6630M 2012 Edit: beaten, but I've got links
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Oct 23, 2012 21:37
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I'm sad. I'd love a 13" rMBP, but there's no option to upgrade it to 16 gigs of RAM and I'm a designer so I'd really need that now. 
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fart blood posted:I'm sad. I'd love a 13" rMBP, but there's no option to upgrade it to 16 gigs of RAM and I'm a designer so I'd really need that now. Had the exact same thought just a few minutes ago. Let's say for something like Illustrator, I can't imagine that the cpu speed bump is going to make me think "I'm glad I spent $1900 on this even though I still have 8 gigs of ram." Am I way off base?
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fart blood posted:I'm sad. I'd love a 13" rMBP, but there's no option to upgrade it to 16 gigs of RAM and I'm a designer so I'd really need that now. I was definitely upset that 16gb (and no discrete GPU) wasn't included in the 13 rMBP.
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