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abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
Season 7 is fantastic so far. Just watched this scene and oh my god Bartlet's reaction :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffByMN8di9c

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Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005


I think they did a really great job aping Sorkin's writing style with this script. Assuming a 20-something WW fan who is an English or Poly-Sci major like, well, the whole thread probably :xd:

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

abraham linksys posted:

Season 7 is fantastic so far. Just watched this scene and oh my god Bartlet's reaction :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffByMN8di9c

A really great actor can just say so much with a tilt of the head.

TheBigBad
Feb 28, 2004

Madness is rare in individuals, but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule.

LordPants posted:

A really great actor can just say so much with a tilt of the head.

I like to call that gravitas.

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
Finished the series.

So now what do I do with the rest of my life :smith:

Seriously, absolutely fantastic from start to.. like the middle of season 5 and then there's a lil gap but it picks back up a few episodes into season 6, to finish :)

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

TheBigBad posted:

I like to call that gravitas.

And how do you measure that?

spamman
Jul 11, 2002

Chin up Tiger, There is always next season...

abraham linksys posted:

Finished the series.

So now what do I do with the rest of my life :smith:


Start again....

TheBigBad
Feb 28, 2004

Madness is rare in individuals, but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule.

Asiina posted:

And how do you measure that?

Its like pornography. You know it when you see it.

Start with James Earl Jones' (or Morgan Freeman's if you prefer) voice, and the further away from how that makes you feel, the less gravitas it has. Now transcode that in your brain to include visual language.

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

abraham linksys posted:

Finished the series.

So now what do I do with the rest of my life :smith:

Rewatch! :getin:

DominoDancing
Apr 26, 2008

Each morning after Sunblest
Feel the benefit
Mental arithmetic

This. It's incredible how rewatchable this show is. I've come to a point where I can basically just listen to it like an audiobook and know exactly what's visually going on in every scene.

king of no pants
Mar 10, 2007

i'm watchin'
you post

DominoDancing posted:

This. It's incredible how rewatchable this show is. I've come to a point where I can basically just listen to it like an audiobook and know exactly what's visually going on in every scene.

Okay good I'm glad someone else posted this because I was worried I'd sound completely crazy if I actually admitted this to anyone.

meatbag
Apr 2, 2007
Clapping Larry
My roommate mocked me for laughing at Amy snipping the phone Josh was talking in while I was sitting with my back to the TV :smith:

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

But it's really funny especially since it's her own phone :)

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
I do that too. I don't listen to music on my commute, I listen to West Wing.

When I get to the end of the series I start over, so I've listened to all of the episodes probably a dozen times, but it's been a long, long time since I've actually watched an episode.

That said, there are some moments that I will always pull my phone out and actually watch:
- The end of Season 3's Christmas episode when Leo is given the "Bartlet for America" napkin and he cries
- The end of Season 4's Christmas episode where O Holy Night is playing over various scenes
- The end of Abby's Birthday party where she says she's giving up her license and they just stare at each other
- That one scene after Zoey's been kidnapped where the family is going to church while Donna and Josh are looking at all the flowers and candles for Zoey
- At the convention in the Season 6 finale, with Leo and the president not really looking at each other backstage.
- When Josh and Donna finally kiss goddamnit.


drat, I planned on just naming one or two, but couldn't stop remembering awesome scenes that have no dialogue in them that are amazing. I love this show so much.

DominoDancing
Apr 26, 2008

Each morning after Sunblest
Feel the benefit
Mental arithmetic

Asiina posted:

I do that too. I don't listen to music on my commute, I listen to West Wing.

That's exactly what I've been doing in the last couple of weeks. I guess that's the upside of having such a dialogue heavy show.

tomapot
Apr 7, 2005
Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Oven Wrangler
I just read this about the debate tonight:

"" posted:

Romney will take care “to speak in paragraphs about the economy,” a second aide says.

I guess they rewatched West Wing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85dKvletfSo

meatbag
Apr 2, 2007
Clapping Larry
What happens in Inauguration pt 2 and the Laurel and Hardy movie? The president sees toy soldiers marching juxtaposed next to real ones and he suddenly wants to intervene in a humanitarian disaster?

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

meatbag posted:

What happens in Inauguration pt 2 and the Laurel and Hardy movie? The president sees toy soldiers marching juxtaposed next to real ones and he suddenly wants to intervene in a humanitarian disaster?

I can't remember exactly, but doesn't have something to do with Will saying an African's life is worth less than an American's?

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

LordPants posted:

I can't remember exactly, but doesn't have something to do with Will saying an African's life is worth less than an American's?

Man, I still love that exchange between Will and Bartlett.

"Why is a Kundunese life worth less to me than an American life?"
"I don't know, sir, but it is."

And the way Bartlett's face just drops.

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/opinion/sunday/dowd-two-presidents-smoking-and-scheming.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

This owns. I heard everything in the respective people's/characters' voices as I read it.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

This is fantastic. I actually could see Jed Bartlet ripping Obama a new one for that performance in my mind's eye. It was like a new West Wing episode. :smith:

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


Pretty much. I made it through his debate with Richie again this afternoon and there's just no comparison.

metztli
Mar 19, 2006
Which lead to the obvious photoshop, making me suspect that their ad agencies or creative types must be aware of what goes on at SA
Just finished my re-watch and I think I sorted out why season 5 seemed so off:

Everyone is really, really loving angry and pointlessly confrontational in order to make drama.

They insert phrases or sayings that an uneducated person might find novel but literally anyone else who has ever, like, read a book or something, ever would know. It's a poor aping of Sorkin's style where the characters show off erudition except in this season they kind of do it by bragging about how they once read Time magazine or something.

The political machinations are just there for backdrop. There isn't any meat to any of the discussions of different views.

The characters seem to behave arbitrarily. Specifically I'm thinking of when Leo and CJ got into it over something she said at a press briefing about the White House modifying a report on clean coal. Leo was just "gently caress you, I'm the boss, do what I say" which, while that works in a crisis, was never his style when working with any of the main team.

Pierce. I know they wanted to appeal to a younger demographic, but meh. "This is a serious place for serious people" and Pierce was just not serious - without his connections he would have been absolutely nobody, but they tried to spin it as if his having and using connections somehow made him a worthwhile character.

They had a couple of nice episodes, but yeah - it takes until 6 to really take off again, and even though it's never really what it was before, it's good in a very different way. I really wish we could have seen more of the Santos presidency...

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Quoting this old post because I'm surprised the "shove a motherboard up your rear end" line didn't come up. It appears in Sports Night too (William H Macy's character says it I believe). It's a pretty memorable line, but it was totally ruined for me when I saw its identical counterpart.

Dr Monkeysee
Oct 11, 2002

just a fox like a hundred thousand others
Nap Ghost

pokeyman posted:

Quoting this old post because I'm surprised the "shove a motherboard up your rear end" line didn't come up. It appears in Sports Night too (William H Macy's character says it I believe). It's a pretty memorable line, but it was totally ruined for me when I saw its identical counterpart.

This happens all the time with Sorkin. It's one of the reasons why I'm not interested in any of his new stuff, he retreads his own writing a lot.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
Amen to that. The AV Club guy who's currently running through the series for the first time just watched "Evidence of Things Not Seen" (the one where the White House is shot at during a staff poker game — hey, speaking of reused ideas!). He noted the scenes between Whitford and Matthew Perry have "the electricity of a broken lightbulb" and it's kind of odd that Sorkin thought it was a pairing worth building a new series around. I'm inclined to agree.

E: Guess I should link it http://www.avclub.com/articles/angel-maintenance,85971/

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.
Yeah the video I quoted (I usually skip the videos too) is a couple dozen other examples, some a bit meager, of line reuse.

Svanja
Sep 19, 2009
Was glad to find this thread. I found out about this show while reading the Newsroom thread and heard so much praise I thought I'd give it a chance. When it was airing we were stationed overseas, so I didn't get a chance to see it.

I'm currently on season 1 and about to start episode 10. I've managed to get my hands on season 2 and will be grabbing the rest of the seasons.

This show is really, really good. I'll try to read through the rest of the thread as I binge through the shows. :)

meatbag
Apr 2, 2007
Clapping Larry
Watch everything first before reading any more of the thread. Better to make up your own opinion on stuff.

Svanja
Sep 19, 2009

meatbag posted:

Watch everything first before reading any more of the thread. Better to make up your own opinion on stuff.

I agree, I saw some spoilery stuff and jumped to the end to post because I didn't want to see too much and ruin the suspense.

What I *am* blown away by is just how different the women are in West Wing and the ones he wrote for The Newsroom. Night and day!!!

TheBigBad
Feb 28, 2004

Madness is rare in individuals, but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule.

Svanja posted:

I agree, I saw some spoilery stuff and jumped to the end to post because I didn't want to see too much and ruin the suspense.

What I *am* blown away by is just how different the women are in West Wing and the ones he wrote for The Newsroom. Night and day!!!

Yeah on the West Wing they know their place. :rimshot:

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


So uh, I should probably buy back my avatar. I was thinking of going with:

quote:


President Bartlet's a good man.
He's got a good heart.
He doesn't hold a grudge.
That's what he pays me for.
But I'm not in love with it. Suggestions?

James R
Dec 22, 2006

I hear they're still eating paper. Is that true?
There really isn't enough love in this thread, or the world, for Bernard Thatch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFzQIrrnEM8

"So here it hangs, like a gym sock on a shower rod."

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams

James R posted:

There really isn't enough love in this thread, or the world, for Bernard Thatch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFzQIrrnEM8

"So here it hangs, like a gym sock on a shower rod."

And that was one continuous shot too :allears:

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


So I was watching the new Spiderman movie after binging on the West Wing for the last couple of months, and imagine my surprise to learn that Spiderman's uncle is President Bartlet.

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

I've been doing my first rewatch of the series lately. Is it wrong for me to assume that Mandy died in the shooting and nobody cared?

marchantia
Nov 5, 2009

WHAT IS THIS

Diabolik900 posted:

I've been doing my first rewatch of the series lately. Is it wrong for me to assume that Mandy died in the shooting and nobody cared?

I want to empty quote this post into eternity. This is my new WW reality.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."

Diabolik900 posted:

I've been doing my first rewatch of the series lately. Is it wrong for me to assume that Mandy died in the shooting and nobody cared?

My assumption has been that she departed the administration in the five to six month time jump between In the shooting and the end of The Midterms.

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
She left after a scandal involving toe sucking and is now a pundit on a right wing news channel.

None of her predictions are ever correct.

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