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Ok, thanks y'all. I'll let ya know if I manage to get to SJC for a skate, sevorak, thanks! PS - A while back, I told y'all about how I went down to 3/8 on the sharpening. It may be placebo, but I really feel like it makes a difference. JetsGuy fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Oct 27, 2012 |
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Petit.Conan posted:What's everyone do for pre-game, game time and post game nutrition and hydration? Pre-game: whatever, just try to eat more than an hour before game time. Sometimes I'll have some coffee or one of those Gatorade+ thingys if it's a late game. During: water, usually drink 16 oz or so over the course of a game. After: chug some strong mixed-myself Gatorade as soon as I get back to the locker room and more water. Beer and maybe ice cream when I get home. This recovery technique will be tested this weekend because I have a late Saturday game and then a training 12-mile run on Sunday morning.
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JetsGuy posted:Ok, thanks y'all. I'll let ya know if I manage to get to SJC for a skate, sevorak, thanks! How much do you weigh? I skate on 7/16" at 175lb and I personally don't know anyone who uses under 1/2" for some reason. I like the extra bite.
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Pre-Game I normally eat normally, but I try not to eat starting about 2 hours before game time. Ante-Game is 1 scoop gatorade powder + quarter scoop vanilla whey protein + 32 oz. of water. Usually get about 20-25 oz. in. Post-game, I finish whatever ante-game drink I have left. Usually have a beer. Then I drive home and mix 24oz 1% milk with one scoop chocolate whey protein. Usually try to time the protein to be about 2 hours after the game finishes. I dunno if it works, but it kinda feels like it. Man, just got back from a disappointing game. Two goals and an assist for me in a 5-3 loss. Goalie let in a few softy dump-ins. One wasn't going in, he slid out to try and stop it for us but didn't get his pad down in time. It bounced off the pad through his five hole and into the net. :3 The thing that disappointed me most was not so much the loss, but the fact that we lost to a team that had 7 skaters. Even though they had more skill than us and a sand-bagger, we could have won that game easily, but the shifts were too long and there was just too much coasting. Case in point, 2nd period when we're on the long change. Me and my partner turn back for a change while the puck is carried through the neutral zone. The D-men coming on for us take a leisurely skate into the offensive zone. Like, REALLY relaxed. As in, the forwards spent 20-25 seconds in the zone without any support at the points. And that pair had been spending the whole game taking 4 minute shifts. I don't hate losing. I hate losing winnable games for dumb reasons. GAH.
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Oct 27, 2012 05:29
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Thought I'd post some spergin' hockey porn. I finally got my poo poo organized!
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Oct 27, 2012 05:36
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Where I stack my stuff:
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Oct 27, 2012 16:05
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:How much do you weigh? I skate on 7/16" at 175lb and I personally don't know anyone who uses under 1/2" for some reason. I like the extra bite. I weigh ~210. I like the extra bite because I feel like it gives me more control. It could also be that I'm still new enough that it helps....
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Oct 28, 2012 01:19
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I'm about 230lbs and use a 3/8's. Energy drink was a big success for me on Friday, I think that's going to be a regular thing now for myself.
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Oct 28, 2012 11:12
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My pregame-routine: 1) Eat heavy breakfast before work. Usually I just eat light stuff like a bowl of cereal or a bagel but on game day I eat sausage, biscuits, cinnamon rolls, bananas, eggs. 2) All day long I'm drinking water and G2, usually a couple of 20oz water bottles and 20oz gatorade bottles. 3) Lunchtime I'll eat a couple of chicken sandwiches from a fast food joint, usually a Wendys. I get off work around 4:30, head home. 4) I run through my equipment checklist, make sure I've got all of the clean laundry in the bag, all of my gear and water bottles, extra stick, etc. 5)  and NHL13 for an hour or so.6) Get picked up and ride to the rink, usually it's about a 2 hour ride up so we carpool. 7) Stop on the way and get a Muscle Milk and a Full Throttle from the gas station, the Muscle Milk goes down the hatch right away. The Full Throttle cracks open when we pull into the rink. 8) Check in, shoot the poo poo with my teammates. At this point there's usually about 45 minutes till they start cutting the ice for our game. About 20 minutes till then I'll hit the dressing room and get changed. 9) Pre-game dump. I'm one of those guys that doesn't poo poo in public restrooms, but the exception is the rink. I always have to squat, since there's always piss on the seat, so I guess that makes it a leg warmup. 10) We are given 3 minutes of ice before the puck drops to warm up, so I'll do my arm and back stretches while the Zamboni is running. When we are cleared to go on the ice I take a few laps around, then go up to the blue line to do my leg/groin stretches. Take a few shots at our goalie to get them warmed up. 11) Once the 3 minutes is up, we head back to the bench and find out which line is starting, then get situated on the bench accordingly. Hockey players are loving weird, I am no exception.
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Oct 28, 2012 17:17
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Water before, beer after. No eating for 2 hours before.
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Oct 28, 2012 18:01
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:No eating for 2 hours before. Pretty much this. If I eat less than about 2.5 or 3 hours before game time, I end up feeling like I'm going to hurl all over the rink.
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Oct 28, 2012 22:24
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I do the same thing.. minus the beer. I used to be pretty religious about taking one of those pre-workout gels in the locker room, but I forgot to bring one a couple months back. I noticed it really had no effect on my level of output, so I skip it now.
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Oct 29, 2012 01:59
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welp, I'm a dumbass. Thought the game tonight was at 9:30 but it turns out it was actually at 5:30. 
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Oct 29, 2012 02:00
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:How much do you weigh? I skate on 7/16" at 175lb and I personally don't know anyone who uses under 1/2" for some reason. I like the extra bite. I use a 3/8" cut
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Oct 29, 2012 02:24
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I play (played?) field hockey to national level for a number of years and was given a lot of nutrition and hydration support over the years. I'm not going to go into a massive amount of detail (its beer league, you can McDonalds if you like) but here are a few rules of thumb. Hydration, Hydration, Hydration! Hydration is probably the most important, yet the most overlooked thing in terms of preparing to play. On average, the body will use up around 1.5 litres of fluid an hour during exercise - arguably more for ice hockey due to the intensity level. Once the body becomes even slightly dehydrated athletic performance can drop by as much as 20% - for that reason alone its important to get as much fluid on board as possible before, during and after you play. If you want to get all  about hydration, you can find out more information as well as (if you really want) how to work out how much fluid you burn through during a game here: http://www.englandhockey.co.uk/page.asp?section=262§ionTitle=Fluid+GuidelinesPre-game meals. On average you burn 60g of carbs for every hour of exercise you do. Again, intensity and conditions are a factor so you could argue that hockey is more demanding. Having a meal with lots of starchy carbs (whole wheat pasta, baked potato, wholemeal bread, brown rice etc) with a small amount of protein is recommended and should be eaten 3-4 hours beforehand to allow your body to metabolise it. You can also supplement your carbs intake with isotonic drinks like Powerade, Gatorade etc which contain between 30-60g of carbs which can be metabolised in around an hour. Fruit juice is also rich in carbs. Pre-game snacks. Anything after 3 hours and up to 30 minutes before you're on the ice and you should be looking at either fruit and/or isotonic drinks which are metabolised quickly by the body. Bananas are great (yellower the better), grapes are full of sugar and good as a quick pick me up. During the game - As detailed above, keeping hydrated and keeping energy levels high are key. Frequent sips of water and occasional sips of an isotonic drink will keep you going nicely. Post game snacks - Immediately after you finish playing its advisable to get something high in carbs (Hello beer!) in your system as quickly as possible to help replenish your glucose stocks as well as the salts and minerals your body burns through during exercise. Beer jokes aside, an isotonic drink and a banana is ideal. Post game meal - Dependent on when you're next active dictates what you need. If you're not doing anything for the next couple of days or more, go high in protein (75-85% protein) to give your body chance to repair itself. Tin of Tuna or Fish in Brine with a nice big salad is ideal. If you're active the following day it is best to go 50/50 on carbs and protein to give your body a chance to repair whilst starting to get your carbs stocks built up to go again. My favourite was Noodles and Salmon with a bit of salad. If anyone wants more information, I'm happy to share what knowledge and experience I have.
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Thank you for that post, it is really informative. I find it very hard to drink any water while playing games. Seems to weigh me down. I drink 2-3 liters a day otherwise. What seems to influence my energy level more is too many minutes between shifts. Is that because I am properly hydrated going into games or should I stop being a baby and force some water down throughout the game?
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Oct 29, 2012 05:10
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My main issue with drinking on the bench is I apparently chug it too fast: once I'm back on the ice and sprinting around again, I usually have to burp.
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Oct 29, 2012 05:28
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sellouts posted:Thank you for that post, it is really informative. If you are feeling tired to the point of sleepiness/exhaustion then that is probably more indicative of your overall fitness level at the moment than anything hydration or nutritionally related. It could also be your respiratory system hasn't adjusted to being pushed to the max during a shift to going back to a rest state and then back to max effort again and so your brain isn't getting enough oxygen which in turn makes you just want to sleep. One thing I can suggest in the short term is to concentrate on your breathing whilst you're on the ice (you'll be surprised how many people forget to breathe during intense bursts), the other more long term if you want to improve your fitness is to go and do interval training or more applicably HIT training. Overall though your body will eventually get used to it though. I used to be especially bad for getting the yawns during pre-season camps (I was a goalkeeper - I don't like running!). Xzzy If you are already gulping it down, chances are you're already dehydrated before you get on the ice. You should only really need a couple of sips just to keep you going.
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Oct 29, 2012 14:25
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I only ever really have problems running out of breath. After getting stuck on the ice for a long shift or something, sometimes I'm still wheezing and taking big, exaggerated breaths on the sideline by the time I have to jump back on the ice. I get to the point where I feel like there's no air left in my friggin lungs long before my muscles get tired or I get dehydrated
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Zip! posted:Xzzy If you are already gulping it down, chances are you're already dehydrated before you get on the ice. You should only really need a couple of sips just to keep you going. I always piss clear before and after playing and I rarely feel thirsty. I'm not drinking a ton of water (maybe 24 ounces over 2 hours), but the water I do drink I apparently drink too fast. 
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Zip! posted:Sleepiness Yeah, it's not a sleepiness thing and I do HIT training. It's like I do my warm up & stretch, and I feel good. But it seems like sometimes if I go too long between the first 3-5 shifts I easily lose that "warm" feeling and it takes longer than it should to get my sweat started and sustained. After that I feel great and "in the rhythm". Maybe it's a mental thing too. I'm probably going to change my warm up. Jump rope, etc I do what you say for diet almost all of the time whenever possible.
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Y'all dudes is fuckin crazy with your gameday rituals. So long as I don't eat a full meal in the hour or two before the game I have some habits but no hard and fast rules. If game before 9PM: avoid energy drinks, maybe have a 5-hour before game, gatorade after if I remember. Maybe a nap, who knows. If game after 9PM: whatevs, avoid drinking too many beers pre-game
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Oct 29, 2012 17:38
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Yeah seriously, I eat what I eat and make sure that's done at least an hour before playing and not something that's going to make me feel like poo poo. I bring a regular sized water bottle to the rink and take a squirt or so from it right after I get off the ice from a shift. A lot of you are way over thinking this. Same deal with all the blade profiling and custom grinds.
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Oct 29, 2012 22:14
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I somewhat agree, after all it's just beer league however I just wanted to share my knowledge in case anyone did want to know. The only poo poo everyone should take seriously is the hydration side of things. Playing whilst dehydrated is all kinds of bad for you.
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Oct 29, 2012 22:20
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My game was cancelled tonight because the rink's power's out. Worst hurricane ever.
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Oct 30, 2012 02:53
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I guess the good news is when they reopen the ice should be totally badass. Unless it takes a week because the entire thing melted. 
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xzzy posted:I guess the good news is when they reopen the ice should be totally badass. No ice, inline.
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Oct 30, 2012 03:54
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Well now they're just huge wimps for closing.
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Oct 30, 2012 04:04
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Man, I can't catch a break. 3 shootouts, 3 times getting the goalie down then putting it off the crossbar. 
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Oct 30, 2012 07:04
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Man, I can't catch a break. 3 shootouts, 3 times getting the goalie down then putting it off the crossbar. Don't feel bad. As a goalie, I can assure you that the only reason you hit the crossbar was that you had nothing else to shoot at.
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Oct 30, 2012 07:16
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Man, I can't catch a break. 3 shootouts, 3 times getting the goalie down then putting it off the crossbar. good thing you were there on Sunday night to help that bronze team beat that winless team. 
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I just picked up a Bauer TotalOne stick yesterday at my local Peranis for $150. It was already marked down to $180 since the new model is out, and then they have a "start of season" sale with 15% off of everything in the store. It was also the last right handed one there, and it was in the curve I use, so I can't help but feel that I got lucky as hell. So that's my gear story. Anyone in Pittsburgh looking for new gear should swing by before thursday if you get the chance, since the sale ends at the end of the month.
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Topoisomerase posted:good thing you were there on Sunday night to help that bronze team beat that winless team. I think you mean the winless Bronze LTP team beat that winless team The only shots I took were the empty netters where there was no one to pass to. Of course, I missed 2 of them.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:How much do you weigh? I skate on 7/16" at 175lb and I personally don't know anyone who uses under 1/2" for some reason. I like the extra bite. 160lbs here. I skate with a 1/2" cut. It feels sloppy at first, but I'm slow, so I like the extra glide. Plus, if 1/2" is good enough for The Great One... 
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I see everyone posting skate sharpness in inches. I get mine done to -1 but might go back to 0 I'm 240lbs.anyone know what the that translates too? I tried searching but couldn't find it.
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kill me now posted:A lot of you are way over thinking this. Same deal with all the blade profiling and custom grinds. Er, the right profile and cut on your blade makes a ton of difference in how you skate. I think it's worth it to find blade params that work for you and don't think that's overthinking anything. However all the meal composition stuff...lol yeah, just not too much beer beforehand.
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Had our first clinic team-vs clinic team game last night. We ended up only having one goalie, so in the first and third, my team had a skater play nets. I stupidly volunteered to play for the third period and let in 4 goals. The saves I did make were pretty good, but its something I never want to do again without full gear.
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Finally get to start another ice league tonight. It has been about 2 months since the last season ended. Only annoying thing is that it is only going to be 2 teams that play each other 4 times, mix up and repeat for another session, due to a lack of people.
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Tonight I was back checking against someone who had been drinking so much before the game you could smell the whiskey about from about 6 feet away like some kind of exhaust fumes as he labored down the ice. Oh beer league hockey 
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Did he warn you he was going to piss himself if you hit him?
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