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Biggie Shorty posted:I love how they're writing the villain for this show-the guy is such an unrepentant scumbag! For the sake of my sanity, I tell myself that the target audience for little-sister fetishism consists of only children. Japan has low birthrates, after all. But yes, it's  and pretty creepy.Edit: I'm a little surprised we don't have an :incest: emoticon yet. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Oct 31, 2012 |
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I think the real villain of the series is Kirito's little sister. Every female he meets through the course of the series (except Asuna) ends up being an incarnation of her in some form or another. Finally, delusional and suffering from intense paranoia and after being cockblocked for the last time, he snaps and develops his own version of a death-MMO, trapping everyone in a world where his sister does not exist. He is then defeated in an in-game duel by none other than his sister.
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Oct 31, 2012 04:48
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Biggie Shorty posted:But the blond fairy turning out to be his sister-aaaw goddamnit really? I was hoping to leave that bullshit behind once they went in-game. They kind of did, given that she doesn't know who he is, he doesn't know who she is, Kirito isn't interested, Suguha has pretty much given up on Kirito out of game from what I saw, and we've already had something like 3 discussions about this can we please not talk about it again. e: VVVVVVVV I was pretty sure I remembered reading that somewhere but didn't want to say it just in case I was misremembering. Thanks. CARRIERHASARRIVED fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Oct 31, 2012 |
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Oct 31, 2012 05:50
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CmdtCarpenter posted:They kind of did, given that she doesn't know who he is, he doesn't know who she is, Kirito isn't interested, Suguha has pretty much given up on Kirito out of game from what I saw, and we've already had something like 3 discussions about this can we please not talk about it again. LN Spoilers: She finds out who she is, comes to terms with it, and its rarely mentioned again.
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Silver2195 posted:For the sake of my sanity, I tell myself that the target audience for little-sister fetishism consists of only children. Japan has low birthrates, after all. It's not like incest fantasies are specific to Japan in any way, shape or form. Head up to the erotica thread in BFC and ask them how incest stories are selling for them. It is (usually) not that people who like incest stories want to commit incest themselves, they just like the taboo-breaking.
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Oct 31, 2012 13:10
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I've always assumed the otaku obsession with incest has to do with their extreme fear and inability to interact with strangers on anything but the most idealized and puritanical levels. The only person of the opposite sex they can be comfortable around and communicate with in an even remotely normal fashion is someone they established a relationship with as a child, before they became a stuttering pile of neuroses and sexual frustration. For some, it's the little sister. For others, a cousin. More commonly, the childhood friend. They're fetishizing the achievement of intimacy without the embarrassment of having to go out on a limb and talk to a stranger who might reject them. Doesn't make it any less creepy but adds a nice layer of sadness as well.
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Oct 31, 2012 17:09
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The fact that it's (spoiler for future events) Pretty much going to be drop kicked from high makes the suffering worth it.
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Oct 31, 2012 17:29
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I've always been a sucker for the 'childhood best friend' scenario. There's a romantic symmetry involved in transitioning between being lifelong friends and partners. Only in fiction though. My first best friend was a girl and though as young kids we saw each other naked several times, I'd never fantasize about getting together with her. Seems to me that in reality all the baggage of being friendly-intimate as a child with someone gets in the way of romantic feelings developing more than it helps.
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Combined BD/DVD sales figures are out for SAO vol 1, and it sold 34,000 copies in the first week, making it goddamn popular. Some yearly Top 4 stats for comparison (first volume cumulative sales, IIRC): 2000: 24,374 Love Hina _ 13,233 Hand Maid May _ 9,620 Banner of the Stars _ 8,614 Vandread 2001: 14,125 Mahoromatic _ 11,901 Fruits Basket _ 8,033 Noir _ 7,103 Hanaukyo Maid Team 2002: 58,589 Gundam Seed _ 25,644 Azumanga Daioh _ 16,109 GITS-SAC _ 13,907 Onegai Teacher 2003: 36,511 Fullmetal Alchemist _ 13,829 Tsukihime _ 13,607 Onegai Twins _ 13,377 Da Capo 2004: 68,732 Gundam Seed Destiny _ 28,537 Initial D s4 _ 19,641 GITS-SAC s2 _ 12,934 Bleach 2005: 24,436 AIR _ 16,573 Negima _ 11,254 Nanoha A's _ 11,039 Honey & Clover 2006: 45,367 Code Geass _ 42,525 Haruhi _ 26,590 Fate/Stay Night _ 18,170 Kanon 2007: 32,731 Gundam 00 _ 29,196 Lucky Star _ 24,808 Clannad _ 22,591 Nanoha Strikers 2008: 46,258 Macross Frontier _ 42,690 Code Geass R2 _ 34,601 Gundam 00 s2 _ 19,884 Clannad After Story 2009: 78,671 Bakemonogatari _ 43,883 K-on _ 24,495 Railgun _ 19,602 Haruhi "s2" 2010: 39,385 K-on s2 _ 34,108 Angel Beats _ 23,837 Ore no Imouto _ 18,311 Durarara 2011: 71,056 Madoka _ 50,866 Fate/Zero _ 33,813 IS _ 31,524 Ano Hana darkgray fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Nov 1, 2012 |
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darkgray posted:Combined BD/DVD sales figures are out for SAO vol 1, and it sold 34,000 copies in the first week, making it goddamn popular. Yet it's still only the third best selling TV series this year, after Nisemonogatari and Fate/zero 2.
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Nov 1, 2012 03:25
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darkgray posted:Combined BD/DVD sales figures are out for SAO vol 1, and it sold 34,000 copies in the first week, making it goddamn popular. It seems Japanese anime fans didn't develop good taste until last year. 
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Silver2195 posted:It seems Japanese anime fans didn't develop good taste until last year. I know Infinite Stratos was my anime of the year.
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Largepotato posted:I know Infinite Stratos was my anime of the year. Missed that one. The Elevens still have no taste.  At least it's only third place after two genuinely good shows, though. Look at the first place show for 2004. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Nov 1, 2012 |
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Nov 1, 2012 04:35
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Silver2195 posted:Missed that one. The Elevens still have no taste. I saw a few episodes, and I'm pretty sure he's joking. Edit: Nevermind, misunderstood. But yeah, mostly I tend to agree with you.
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How the gently caress was Air the best selling thing of its year? And how did it sell only 350 some units less than Clannad did a few years later?
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Blhue posted:How the gently caress was Air the best selling thing of its year? And how did it sell only 350 some units less than Clannad did a few years later? The competition was a bit lacking, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2005_anime Contrast with the next year's much stronger field: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2006_anime
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Silver2195 posted:It seems Japanese anime fans didn't develop good taste until last year. I don't see Mushi-shi, Hourou Musuko, Tatami Galaxy or the new Lupin listed, so their taste is still atrocious as far as I'm concerned. 
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Nov 1, 2012 07:38
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2004 was the worst year. SEED Destiny, of all loving things, sold three times as well as GitS second season?
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Sakurazuka posted:2004 was the worst year. SEED Destiny, of all loving things, sold three times as well as GitS second season? Seed Destiny was pretty good up until like episode 36.
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Dexo posted:Seed Destiny was pretty good Said no one ever.
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Silver2195 posted:The competition was a bit lacking, I think. Paradise Kiss came out that year and didn't even chart! I am sticking with the bad taste angle.
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Dexo posted:Seed Destiny was pretty good up until like episode 36.
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Pierson posted:I'm terribly sorry you have brain cancer. Is there anything we can do? Send 500 BTC to my wallet. Gundam SEED Spoiler but seriously Seed Destiny could have been pretty good had they let Kira stay dead and dealt with the consequences of that. I was actually starting to enjoy it until Kira became the Main character again. Dexo fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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Dexo posted:Send 500 BTC to my wallet. so, we're in the "loving spoiler OTHER animes in the SAO thread, now"? I was watching SEED just right loving now.
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Aureon posted:so, we're in the "loving spoiler OTHER animes in the SAO thread, now"? Sorry I guess, but seriously though, Series is almost 10 years old. And if this stops your from finishing it I did you a favor.
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Dexo posted:Sorry I guess, but seriously though, Series is almost 10 years old. I'm pretty sure we're not expected to spoiler poo poo that is that old. Plus the correct response is simply to report the post, rather than gripe about it. Rules posted:Use spoiler tags! Your second point is straight on the money, too. Nathilus fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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Biggie Shorty posted:I love how they're writing the villain for this show-the guy is such an unrepentant scumbag! Obviously the author knows it yields the most hilarious outcomes in literature. Oedipus Rex is over two millennia old but still yields a few laughs from the audience who knows what is up while the main cast do not. YouTuber fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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YouTuber posted:Obviously the author knows it yields the most hilarious outcomes in literature. Oedipus Rex is over two millennia old but still yields a few laughs from the audience who knows what is up while the main cast do not. It'd be more hilarious if this wasn't more common in anime and tended to have creepier implications. The most creepy thing here is that they've been brother and sister for as long as they can remember.
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YouTuber posted:Obviously the author knows it yields the most hilarious outcomes in literature. Oedipus Rex is over two millennia old but still yields a few laughs from the audience who knows what is up while the main cast do not. Man, didn't even think about it that way. I mean it's patently obvious he's not going to fall for his sister, cousin or not, so we're just waiting for the dramatic fuzzy bomb to go off and, given everyone's mental state, it's going to be glorious. Argas posted:The most creepy thing here is that they've been brother and sister for as long as they can remember. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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Nov 2, 2012 06:50
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I so wish I had stopped watching at episode 14. I had the feeling things were going to go downhill, but incest is not what I signed up for. Well, it was a cool thing to watch until it got silly.
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Can we loving stop bringing that up? It has been stated numerous times that (Regarding that spoiler)It doesn't go anywhere and gets dropped almost immediately Demicol fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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Nov 2, 2012 11:23
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Demicol posted:Can we loving stop bringing that up? I guess not, what with [that noise] and all.
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Demicol posted:Can we loving stop bringing that up? Only people who've read the novels or spoiled themselves in this thread know that though, everyone else is like 'Welp, creepy poo poo, peace out.' because, despite how it plays out, it's still there.
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Demicol posted:Can we loving stop bringing that up?
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Sakurazuka posted:Only people who've read the novels or spoiled themselves in this thread know that though, everyone else is like 'Welp, creepy poo poo, peace out.' because, despite how it plays out, it's still there. You know what? If they will tolerate it elsewhere and this is the place they'll quit on it only two episodes in then good riddance. A little bit of patience pays off. And this comes from someone who had to endure that stupid show with the Tsundere sister and her doormat of a brother in a club setting. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Nov 2, 2012 |
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Demicol posted:Can we loving stop bringing that up? "But if I don't complain forever about irrelevant stuff, how will people know I'm not a creep?"
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ConanThe3rd posted:You know what? If they will tolerate it elsewhere and this is the place they'll quit on it only two episodes in then good riddance. A little bit of patience pays off. Genshiken?
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WitchFetish posted:"But if I don't complain forever about irrelevant stuff, how will people know I'm not a creep?" I like that discussing the episodes now just receives backlash against people who dont read the WAY TOO MANY novel spoilers all over this thread. No matter what happens later, it is still currently happening. It happened in the episode, people are going to discuss it. If you would like to discuss the novel, please take it elsewhere. Its funny how people that are sorta creeped out by this are in the wrong according to this thread 
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Actually the incest discussions has happened like six times in the thread and needs to stop. This isn't even "discussing the episodes," it's bringing up an old episode to rehash something this thread has gone over multiple times.
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Nine of Eight posted:Genshiken? No, that's a good show. I Mean Oreimo or 'the gently caress it was called. That show was just awful.
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