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Cat Power worked for these folks? Oh, that's hilarious. Very, very hilarious.
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Does anybody know of any good wrestling documentaries? I really like the behind the scenes stuff a lot more than the actual program. I've seen things like hitman heart and beyond the mat and enjoyed them.
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Nov 4, 2012 04:57
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There's two documentaries on the history of World Class Championship Wrestling, a WWE-produced one called Triumph and Tragedy of WCCW and an unlicensed one called Heroes of World Class. Both are very good. Memphis Heat was released earlier this year, and covers Memphis Wrestling during the territory days--it was also excellent. There's also The Rise + Fall of ECW and The Rise + Fall of WCW, but the former is much, much better than the latter. As for wrestler specific ones, Stone Cold Steve Austin: The Bottom Line on the Most Popular Superstar of All Time, CM Punk: Best in the World and Breaking the Code: Behind the Walls of Chris Jericho are all very in-depth and good. Most of the WWE ones are on Netflix Instant, so you shouldn't have much trouble finding them.
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Nov 4, 2012 05:10
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Herr Direktor posted:Does anybody know of any good wrestling documentaries? I really like the behind the scenes stuff a lot more than the actual program. I've seen things like hitman heart and beyond the mat and enjoyed them. The Unreal Story of Professional Wrestling is pretty entertaining. It's a brief 20th century history, with an obvious focus on the modern stuff they could actually get footage of. A lot of people really liked Memphis Heat but it wasn't my thing. It's a pretty in depth look at the Memphis territory. Some of the WWE documentaries are good but the best you'll get is an interview about the reaction backstage years before.
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Nov 4, 2012 05:18
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Cardboard Box posted:There's two documentaries on the history of World Class Championship Wrestling, a WWE-produced one called Triumph and Tragedy of WCCW and an unlicensed one called Heroes of World Class. Both are very good. Memphis Heat was released earlier this year, and covers Memphis Wrestling during the territory days--it was also excellent. There's also The Rise + Fall of ECW and The Rise + Fall of WCW, but the former is much, much better than the latter.
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Nov 4, 2012 05:40
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Herr Direktor posted:Does anybody know of any good wrestling documentaries? I really like the behind the scenes stuff a lot more than the actual program. I've seen things like hitman heart and beyond the mat and enjoyed them. I really enjoyed one that used to be available on Netflix streaming called either Subject to Change or Card Subject to Change. A great look at personal lives of independent wrestlers. I remember Trent Acid and Rhett Titus specifically, but a ton of others too.
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Nov 4, 2012 05:42
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Herr Direktor posted:Does anybody know of any good wrestling documentaries? I really like the behind the scenes stuff a lot more than the actual program. I've seen things like hitman heart and beyond the mat and enjoyed them. I actually wrote about this a couple weeks ago. http://emailsihavesent.blogspot.com/2012/10/wrestling-documentaries.html Like a lot of others have said, the ECW, WCW, and World Class releases are all fantastic. Punk is probably my favorite of the individual WWE-produced docs. Card Subject to Change is really good if you're looking for something more focused on the indies.
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Nov 4, 2012 07:35
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The WCW documentary and the Unreal Story of Pro Wrestling are both really bad. Their grasp of history is pretty weak, but the way they have to gloss over almost everything due to the short running times may be worse.
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Nov 4, 2012 07:37
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Cat Power worked for these folks? Do not besmirch the name of Chan Marshall.
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Nov 4, 2012 07:46
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Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows includes a lot of total BS by Bret but it's still an amazing moment in wrestling captured with terrible native tribal noises.
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Nov 4, 2012 07:49
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows includes a lot of total BS by Bret but it's still an amazing moment in wrestling captured with terrible native tribal noises. Do you mean Bret's self serving ways? Because to me that's some of the most interesting stuff in the movie when I watch it now.
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Nov 4, 2012 08:02
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I just want to share that in Oklahoma there is a local female worker named Bitch The Clown. Bitch the Clown. That is all.
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Nov 4, 2012 08:04
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Gaea Girls is pretty good and is a pretty good one about a bunch of GAEA trainees and also some stuff on Chigusa and her feud at the time with Lioness Asuka. If you've ever seen the clip of Meiko Satomura dropkicking a rookie's (Saika Takeuchi) head off, it's from that. Should be easily available on youtube as well.
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Nov 4, 2012 08:04
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Octagon was probably the biggest star in Mexico in the 90s . Why wasn't he ever in WCW?
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beaverseatwood posted:Octagon was probably the biggest star in Mexico in the 90s What?
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Nov 4, 2012 15:48
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octagon_(wrestler)
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Nov 4, 2012 16:03
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They really missed the boat on naming his midget sidekick Quadrilateral.
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Nov 4, 2012 16:10
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WWE's Brian Pillman documentary is also a good watch.
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Nov 4, 2012 17:28
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I know who he is. It doesn't say anywhere on the Wiki page that he was the biggest star of the nineties.
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Nov 4, 2012 19:05
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Might have something to do with being 35 at the time, not being particularly good in the ring (he has very little to do with Gringos Locos vs Octagon/Santo being a ***** match), and potentially not speaking english (some or even most may not have either, but were spectacular enough for it to not matter or were friends with Konnan). Plus, Konnan brokered the deal, and if he and Konann weren't friends or had beef, he wouldn't have tried to include him in the deal. Interesting fact: Among WCW barss, supposedly the feeling was that Lizmark Jr. and Juvi would be the breakout guys from those were brought over. They were half-right, sorta. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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Nov 4, 2012 20:24
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Interesting fact: Among WCW barss, supposedly the feeling was that Lizmark Jr. and Juvi would be the breakout guys from those were brought over. They were half-right, sorta. Lizmark Jr. was pretty tall compared to most of them and only like 25. I know they really liked Hector Garza too (he has a win over Scott Hall). Juvi was legit the best out of the group back then but Rey surpassed him in the years to follow. Plus Juvi was loving crazy. I actually considered it a good thing they took his mask off as opposed to Psychosis or Rey Jr.
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Nov 4, 2012 22:31
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Herr Direktor posted:Does anybody know of any good wrestling documentaries? I really like the behind the scenes stuff a lot more than the actual program. I've seen things like hitman heart and beyond the mat and enjoyed them. There's an episode of Louis Theroux's Weird Weekend where he goes to the WCW Power Plant - that's a pretty fun doco for an outsider's perspective on wrestling. Here it is on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbf1jt9anM Raven: Didn't you do any research before you started this endeavour? Louis: No
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Nov 4, 2012 23:04
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"I'm gonna kick the crap out of Scott Steiner!"
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Nov 4, 2012 23:21
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That is so fascinating how that they are all supposedly extroverted superstars, but none of them want a camera in their face. edit: That's Nitro on the way down, right? Which makes it a bit sad in hindsight. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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Nov 4, 2012 23:42
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Wasn't Steven Regal still in WCW at this point? I'm surprised he wouldn't get involved with a Theroux interview, he'd be one of the few people at that point that would have heard of Louis.
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Nov 4, 2012 23:45
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It was broadcast in July 99, so at the time it was recorded Regal was probably still in WWF/rehab.
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Nov 4, 2012 23:47
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The other thing to remember about this episode is that when it was in preproduction WCW was the number one promotion in the US, and the front office was more than happy to have him involved. He's later said that he noticed a big shift in attitude when it came to filming, because there was a sense that the company was on the decline.
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Nov 4, 2012 23:57
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Skinty McEdger posted:The other thing to remember about this episode is that when it was in preproduction WCW was the number one promotion in the US, and the front office was more than happy to have him involved. He's later said that he noticed a big shift in attitude when it came to filming, because there was a sense that the company was on the decline. He was still quite respectable and seemed to put them over well. I loved them cutting old promos. Miss those.
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Nov 5, 2012 00:01
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That indy wrestler who has a day-job pairing socks where he passes his time 'thinking about wrestling' is so sweet.
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Nov 5, 2012 00:03
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Were there any real names at the Powerplant there? I only recognized Chuck Palumbo. fake edit: I'm very loosely using the term "real names" here.
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Nov 5, 2012 00:21
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Kwee-Wee/Angry Alan Funk is in it at around 33:15
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Nov 5, 2012 00:26
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Chuck Palumbo and Elix Skipper was there as well. Sarge is a loving rear end in a top hat who didn't show anything about understanding wrestling. He only knew how to work people out. Not allowing Louis to have any water was just dangerous. But that's why Bret eventually stopped blaming Goldberg and went to blaming WCW Power Plant.
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Nov 5, 2012 00:51
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From all accounts the Power Plant was all about physical/endurance training and not so much about the in-ring training.
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Nov 5, 2012 00:55
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I'd be the worlds worst wrestler. I just know someone would do something and I'd tell them to kiss my rear end. Then I'd never get work.
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Nov 5, 2012 00:59
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Batista was told he would never make it in the wrestling business by Wayne DeBruce because he couldn't keep up in the Power Plant. People there probably learned way more from Pez Whatley. Three cheers for Pistol Pez 
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MrBling posted:From all accounts the Power Plant was all about physical/endurance training and not so much about the in-ring training. Goldberg has gone on the record saying his training at the Power Plant was far more brutal than any football training he's ever gone through.
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Nov 5, 2012 02:33
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Supreme Allah posted:This one time he wrestled Undertaker and Taker hit him with the Last Ride. Val did this really dorky sell where he laid on his shoulders with his legs sticking straight in the air for about five seconds. I think Taker had to roll him back down to pin him. There's no point to this, I just remember that whenever someone mentions Val Venis. A page old but here it is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKFYtcNEl7k&t=405s
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Nov 5, 2012 05:45
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Biker Taker was so freaking lame. It should have led to a mid-life crisis gimmick
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Chuck Palumbo and Elix Skipper was there as well. Yeah, the Power Plant was trying to recreate Verne Gagne's training camp, only Verne was actually a good wrestler who could teach guys how to work and all the WCW trainers were lovely job guys with axes to grind.
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Shadalator posted:Biker Taker was so freaking lame. It should have led to a mid-life crisis gimmick ...That's pretty much exactly what it was.
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