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Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



wormil posted:

I expected Facebook to blow up but it was fairly tame. Did find this little gem. (assassination keeps politicians honest)



It's not really a conservative Facebook thread until someone posts in all caps.

Speaking of Facebook,

quote:

you gotta admit that most of those who voted Obama hate Romney just b.c he achieved what he wanted in life.. which is sad.. maybe those are just people i met.

I got so disappointed in people... They chose "more free stuff" over principles!

Yep. "Most" people who voted for Obama are just jealous. There's no other explanation! :shepface:

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Kat R. Waulin
Jul 30, 2012
Grimey Drawer
My cousin posted that fake electoral map with ALL the western and southern states, red. With the comment "How could he win?!?"

I asked if he really thought CA, was red. He's always ranting about how evil CA is, with it's gays and Hollywood.
His son, who I only met once when he was 6, (now 18), pounced! "typical liberal blah, blah, blah!!!".
His dad popped in with, "nevermind son, you can't fix stupid."
I mentioned FOX News.... I also mentioned (for the 100th time,) that I have some liberal views, but am mostly Independent.



I left the "III" in his name, because it makes it so much more entertaining.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:
Ha, even actual Republicans know it is in fact about race. A good amount of the talk today has been on how in the hell do they expand past white men and old men and women.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Republicans don't hate Obama because he's black, they just believe that it's acceptable to use any vague negative feelings their white constituents may have about black people against him. They're not racist, they just think black people matter less and are disposable.

Emy
Apr 21, 2009

Spoondick posted:

But surely surface area would be a much more democratic basis for determining elected representatives than population.

Alaska would be such an electoral powerhouse.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
I wish there was some way to make this my ringtone. All 24 minutes of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoqti0lzAw

TheLoquid
Nov 5, 2008


Somehow he's mad about these things?

Emy
Apr 21, 2009

Ringo Star Get posted:

I wish there was some way to make this my ringtone. All 24 minutes of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoqti0lzAw
Why would you be so mad that people aren't sharing your videos? Sharing is socialist!!

(delicious schadenfreude)

Just saw the word "Paulqaeda" in the video description, holy poo poo.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

TheLoquid posted:



Somehow he's mad about these things?

Tell him to shut the gently caress up, quit his job and go on food stamps and get that obamaphone then if it's so great.

Green Puddin
Mar 30, 2008

gently caress all these people who think that going on unemployment is anything lucrative. I work a seasonal job and through the winter have to collect, otherwise I wouldn't be able to survive financially for 2 - 3 months. It's not like suddenly I can afford a castle filled with hookers and cocaine from ARE TAXES. Bunch of cunts.

Also, whats this talk about free cell phones? Just more verbal diarrhea or what?

TheLoquid
Nov 5, 2008
It's a an extension of the Lifeline program that recognizes that, you know, cell phones are pretty much a loving necessity for modern life. It was a program initiated by Bush to provide mobile phones to people who can't afford them. Made famous by a video of a black lady saying she was gonna vote for Obama because he gave her a phone. It's the Welfare Queen of the 2012 election, basically - a dirt cheap program to make the lives of the poor a little less onerous is right behind terrorism and cancer in terms of Bad Things in the mind of the right wing.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

Green Puddin posted:

gently caress all these people who think that going on unemployment is anything lucrative. I work a seasonal job and through the winter have to collect, otherwise I wouldn't be able to survive financially for 2 - 3 months. It's not like suddenly I can afford a castle filled with hookers and cocaine from ARE TAXES. Bunch of cunts.

Also, whats this talk about free cell phones? Just more verbal diarrhea or what?

They're pretending that something that originated during the Reagan administration was started by Obama after this video came out.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

DarkHorse posted:

There's been a lot of dumb crap on my facebook today, but I think this takes the cake.



Just... how do you get that many wrong things in so few sentences?! :psyduck:

where the hell are dallas and pinellas/hillsborough?

thefncrow
Mar 14, 2001

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

where the hell are dallas and pinellas/hillsborough?

Willing to bet that's a map of 2000 or 2004. Especially since, as you mention, Dallas isn't a dot of blue, even though the county went for Obama 57-42 last night.

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

13Pandora13 posted:

Never mind that, what are those blue dots in Georgia that aren't Atlanta/Savannah? :psyduck:

This is actually a favorite subject of mine. Note the general U-shaped curve that goes from South Carolina, through Georgia, central Alabama, and up through Mississippi?



It's the cotton belt, an area with unusually fertile soil, perfect for planting cotton.



So, you ended up with the biggest plantations there, and the biggest populations of slaves. This can be seen today--some of those areas are still upwards of 80% black. And they vote heavily Democratic.

So why is that soil so fertile?




100 million years ago, it was a shallow coastline!

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


thefncrow posted:

Willing to bet that's a map of 2000 or 2004. Especially since, as you mention, Dallas isn't a dot of blue, even though the county went for Obama 57-42 last night.

It's 2004.

sicarius
Dec 12, 2002

In brightest day,
In blackest night,
My smugface makes,
women wet....

That's how it goes, right?

I own farmland there.... and I grow cotton! Hooray...

I don't live there anymore, though... it's pretty miserable. Rural West Tennessee is pretty awful. I didn't know it was once a coastal zone though. Very cool.

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

sicarius posted:

I own farmland there.... and I grow cotton! Hooray...

I don't live there anymore, though... it's pretty miserable. Rural West Tennessee is pretty awful. I didn't know it was once a coastal zone though. Very cool.

I live in North Mississippi, and my brother just moved away from Finger, TN. It's pretty hilariously bad.

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments

XyloJW posted:

I live in North Mississippi, and my brother just moved away from Finger, TN. It's pretty hilariously bad.

I am from north MS too and Am so glad I am not there anymore, although my family still is. I live NY now, and my brother called me the other day to tell me about the electrical crews being turned away from Jersey because they are nonunion (false). My kindergarten teacher reminded me that Obama personally killed the Libyan ambassador. A childhood friend made sure to tell me that the media has a liberal bias, because the pointed out that the high education levels found in Northern Virginia meant it would be majority Blue, even though THAT IS 100% TRUE.

Ugh... Oh yeah, some Ole Miss students were apparently riled up and shouting racial slurs into TV cameras today. Stay classy Mississippi!

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007
I have the pleasure of knowing one of those guys--he's been wearing a Romney-Ryan bracelet ever since Ryan was nominated. They pulled a fire alarm at a dorm, forcing everyone out in the middle of the night, where they burned an Obama/Biden sign and shouted the kinds of things you'd expect people like that to shout. The reports of fist-fights and riots, though, were exaggerated. The police department is currently investigating.

For what it's worth, I happened to have been outside walking my dog when the election was called and my neighbor ran out and hugged me.

PBJ
Oct 10, 2012

Grimey Drawer

Kat R. Waulin posted:

My cousin posted that fake electoral map with ALL the western and southern states, red. With the comment "How could he win?!?"

I asked if he really thought CA, was red. He's always ranting about how evil CA is, with it's gays and Hollywood.
His son, who I only met once when he was 6, (now 18), pounced! "typical liberal blah, blah, blah!!!".
His dad popped in with, "nevermind son, you can't fix stupid."
I mentioned FOX News.... I also mentioned (for the 100th time,) that I have some liberal views, but am mostly Independent.



I left the "III" in his name, because it makes it so much more entertaining.

Ahaha that last sentence was priceless.

"And also last time I checked, my career will be in politics." :smug:

sicarius
Dec 12, 2002

In brightest day,
In blackest night,
My smugface makes,
women wet....

That's how it goes, right?

archangelwar posted:

I am from north MS too and Am so glad I am not there anymore, although my family still is. I live NY now, and my brother called me the other day to tell me about the electrical crews being turned away from Jersey because they are nonunion (false). My kindergarten teacher reminded me that Obama personally killed the Libyan ambassador. A childhood friend made sure to tell me that the media has a liberal bias, because the pointed out that the high education levels found in Northern Virginia meant it would be majority Blue, even though THAT IS 100% TRUE.

Ugh... Oh yeah, some Ole Miss students were apparently riled up and shouting racial slurs into TV cameras today. Stay classy Mississippi!


XyloJW posted:

I have the pleasure of knowing one of those guys--he's been wearing a Romney-Ryan bracelet ever since Ryan was nominated. They pulled a fire alarm at a dorm, forcing everyone out in the middle of the night, where they burned an Obama/Biden sign and shouted the kinds of things you'd expect people like that to shout. The reports of fist-fights and riots, though, were exaggerated. The police department is currently investigating.

For what it's worth, I happened to have been outside walking my dog when the election was called and my neighbor ran out and hugged me.

This makes me happy I live in Middle Tennessee. Sure we have our crazies, but they're moderate crazy. Yeah - the whole mosque thing happened and people shouted at me for being a "sand friend of the family lover", but at least I wasn't assaulted. :smith:

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments

sicarius posted:

This makes me happy I live in Middle Tennessee. Sure we have our crazies, but they're moderate crazy. Yeah - the whole mosque thing happened and people shouted at me for being a "sand friend of the family lover", but at least I wasn't assaulted. :smith:

Nashville or Murfreesboro area? Yeah, that is an oasis in the South. I have been trying to find a way to get back there (born outside Nashville) but not much of a tech sector there. But all the things posted on Facebook by all my Southern contemporaries... Just makes me shiver. It is almost all false, or at least deeply, deeply ignorant. It almost pains me to realize that if I were to go back today, I could not possibly converse civilly with these people. It is hard enough to not call my own parents out. Fortunately their political talk pretty much is limited to "I hate Obama (because he is black)" and that leaves me little room to argue.

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

Man, I shouldn't have made the mistake of checking FB. The Republican tears are pure rage. Also, tired of hearing about how "Obummer" is a socialist. I'm sure many actual socialists are offended by this.

Laminator
Jan 18, 2004

You up for some serious plastic surgery?
I've been sorely disappointed about the lack of GOP rage on my facebook, especially since Oklahoma went 100% red again this year.

We successfully banned affirmative action, too!

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

Laminator posted:

I've been sorely disappointed about the lack of GOP rage on my facebook, especially since Oklahoma went 100% red again this year.

We successfully banned affirmative action, too!

What is the racial demographic in OK anyways? I'm watching my family implode on FB. Everyone is afraid of Obama unveiling his Great Leap Forward. :supaburn:

Part of me thinks this should be amusing, but it's actually really depressing. To them, I'm basically a Godless Socialist.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Adventures in Facebook status

My aunt: So happy to live in a free country. ... for now :(
Me: Aww, you're moving? :(

That should set her off.

God, I could kiss the person who invented passive aggressive.

Sarion
Dec 24, 2003

One of the people I get into political discussions with on Facebook is much more calm and reasonable than most of the stuff I see. My wife thinks she may have actually voted for Obama this year because she had mentioned in the past how much she hated Mitt Romney, but generally she's one of those people who is really well meaning and a good heart, but bats Republican and accepts their talking points because that's her team. In any case, whether she voted Obama and wanted to feel better about her decision, or if she was just accepting the results and wanted to know it would be ok; she asked me if I could send her a message explaining how Obama's plan to tax small businesses wouldn't result in higher costs for her family. So this is what I sent her:

Sarion posted:

Hey <Facebook Person>,

I hope you're feeling better! I saw you say you've been feeling bad lately, fever and a headache? :(

I just wanted to answer your question from earlier about Obama taxing small businesses. The main thing to remember is that Obama's plan is to increase the tax rates back to pre-Bush levels on INCOME over $250K; not to tax small businesses specifically. Also, the fact that it's only taxing income is pretty critical. For example, a plumber may run his own business and bring in $600,000 a year, but of that he only takes home $75,000. The rest goes to expenses and other employees. So even though the business brings in way more than $250k, they're unaffected because his income is only $75k.

Now, it's common for Republicans to attack Obama's plan by saying most small businesses make over $250k income, but that's not correct. If you look at the number of people who report "business" income on their taxes, only about 2% of them are in that $250k+ range. And even then, lots of those people aren't really small businesses. There are lots of reasons people have to report "business" income. For example, if you own multiple homes and you're renting one that you couldn't sell, that rental income gets classified the same as income from a small business. So do people like Bill Clinton or Mitt Romney, who make money from giving speeches. Income from speaking fees counts as "business" income. Yet, you wouldn't really consider speakers or rental properties as a job-creating-business. The point being that very few small businesses are going to be hit by a tax increase, and for the ones that do, you're talking about someone who is taking home a hefty income AFTER paying for/hiring employees, investing in their business, etc.

Now, you could still wonder, well won't those businesses, even if it's not many, still increase their costs due to those taxes, and make it tougher for my family to get by? The answer is no, for a number of reasons. But the main one is that the tax is so small you won't notice the difference even if they DID pass along the cost to you (which I doubt many would). For example, you have a business owner who makes a taxable income of $500,000 a year. Under Obama's plan, he would pay just over $9000 more in taxes. Now, that seems like a lot. But compared to how much money his business makes, it isn't. For someone to take home that much money after all their business expenses, their business would have to be pulling in several million dollars in sales. So if you assume the company sells $3M worth of stuff, and the owner increases the cost so they bring in an extra $15k to pay for his new taxes, it only requires a cost increase of 0.5%. In other words, if you went to their store and spent $25, the new price would be 1-2 cents higher. It's just not enough that you would really notice that anything changed.

Hope that helps. I tried to keep it short and to the point, cause I know I'm prone to rambling :)

Just wanted to post this here in case you guys think of anything else I could include in any follow ups.

And poo poo, I just realized I said the cost increase would be 1-2 cents instead of 12 cents. Not that it changes my point, but I hate when I miss stuff like that until after I send it. :argh:

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

Sarion posted:

One of the people I get into political discussions with on Facebook is much more calm and reasonable than most of the stuff I see. My wife thinks she may have actually voted for Obama this year because she had mentioned in the past how much she hated Mitt Romney, but generally she's one of those people who is really well meaning and a good heart, but bats Republican and accepts their talking points because that's her team. In any case, whether she voted Obama and wanted to feel better about her decision, or if she was just accepting the results and wanted to know it would be ok; she asked me if I could send her a message explaining how Obama's plan to tax small businesses wouldn't result in higher costs for her family. So this is what I sent her:


Just wanted to post this here in case you guys think of anything else I could include in any follow ups.

And poo poo, I just realized I said the cost increase would be 1-2 cents instead of 12 cents. Not that it changes my point, but I hate when I miss stuff like that until after I send it. :argh:

Would you do me your kindness and post your sources? That'd be swell. Thanks abunch!

Sarion
Dec 24, 2003

Dirty Job posted:

Facebook posted:

you gotta admit that most of those who voted Obama hate Romney just b.c he achieved what he wanted in life..

Except for being President :smug:


XyloJW posted:

This is actually a favorite subject of mine. Note the general U-shaped curve that goes from South Carolina, through Georgia, central Alabama, and up through Mississippi?

Thank you so much for posting this, it was really fascinating.

Mitchicon posted:

Would you do me your kindness and post your sources? That'd be swell. Thanks abunch!

Most of the tax plan details are available just about anywhere. A good article that discusses the issues of how many small businesses will be impacted is here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/aug/04/randy-neugebauer/lawmaker-claims-democrats-want-hit-small-businesse/

The example I gave about the business owner making $500k was just math I did myself based on Obama's intended tax increases.

Laminator
Jan 18, 2004

You up for some serious plastic surgery?

Mitchicon posted:

What is the racial demographic in OK anyways? I'm watching my family implode on FB. Everyone is afraid of Obama unveiling his Great Leap Forward. :supaburn:

Part of me thinks this should be amusing, but it's actually really depressing. To them, I'm basically a Godless Socialist.

It's mostly white, especially in the rural areas. There are some significant pockets of Hispanic (including undocumented) and African American minorities scattered around the OKC metro, not sure about Tulsa. For example, today I was flexing my med school muscles and helped with a smoking prevention program for high school students and the area we were in was nearly 100% Hispanic.

Elder Postsman
Aug 30, 2000


i used hot bot to search for "teens"

My friend who was predicting a Romney landslide thanks to a silent majority has started posting again, and, surprise! Obama's gonna... use the UN to take your huntin' rifle?

I'm pretty sure that I got my facts right here (I'm blue), and I'm also pretty sure that I'll get no response to it. :(

Only registered members can see post attachments!

sicarius
Dec 12, 2002

In brightest day,
In blackest night,
My smugface makes,
women wet....

That's how it goes, right?

dur posted:

My friend who was predicting a Romney landslide thanks to a silent majority has started posting again, and, surprise! Obama's gonna... use the UN to take your huntin' rifle?

I'm pretty sure that I got my facts right here (I'm blue), and I'm also pretty sure that I'll get no response to it. :(



As others have said, I'll repeat, the "conservatives" "won". No one is serious about gun control beyond what we already have in the United States. The NRA and other groups bring this up because if they announce they've won.... people will ignore them, and they want money.

I'm a gun person. I own and fire guns regularly. I have a carry permit, but don't ever carry. Blah blah blah. If anything, people are discussing clearing up the language and making existing laws functional. There is no real drive to take away rifles, handguns, shotguns, and even most assault weapons. There are a ton of reasons for this, but your friend is just wrapped up in the rhetoric of the right. Not to mention that tossing the UN in there always gets them riled up.

Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

dur posted:

My friend who was predicting a Romney landslide thanks to a silent majority has started posting again, and, surprise! Obama's gonna... use the UN to take your huntin' rifle?

I'm pretty sure that I got my facts right here (I'm blue), and I'm also pretty sure that I'll get no response to it. :(


It looks accurate to me. The key word in this and any International Agreement is non-binding. The key takeaway I got from my International Law class awhile back is that due to the self-policing nature of international agreements, anything remotely controversial is largely worthless. America will likely never accept the ICC rulings against Americans for the same reasons the current form of that agreement won't be ratified, national rights supersede anything from an International body. Unless we wrote it or agree with it, then other nations better drat well agree or there will be repercussions!

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

archangelwar posted:

I am from north MS too and Am so glad I am not there anymore, although my family still is. I live NY now, and my brother called me the other day to tell me about the electrical crews being turned away from Jersey because they are nonunion (false). My kindergarten teacher reminded me that Obama personally killed the Libyan ambassador. A childhood friend made sure to tell me that the media has a liberal bias, because the pointed out that the high education levels found in Northern Virginia meant it would be majority Blue, even though THAT IS 100% TRUE.

Ugh... Oh yeah, some Ole Miss students were apparently riled up and shouting racial slurs into TV cameras today. Stay classy Mississippi!

I'm from the Delta. A teacher I used to know posted some apparently really racist facebook post after Romney lost last night....

... and was promptly fired this morning.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Please tell us you have the post.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

VideoTapir posted:

Please tell us you have the post.

I don't. It was taken down pretty quickly and now her facebook is filled with "Welp. Guess I'm going to the beach. Anybody have a good book to read?"

A bunch of people are asking her what she did, but she's just saying "it was a stupid post. I never should have said it. I didn't mean to hurt anybody. I was frustrated, but I should have just kept my mouth shut."

I'm sure there will be some local news piece soon with the post.

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost

sicarius posted:

As others have said, I'll repeat, the "conservatives" "won". No one is serious about gun control beyond what we already have in the United States. The NRA and other groups bring this up because if they announce they've won.... people will ignore them, and they want money.

It's a bit frustrating but remember the same thing is also true for birth control and gay marriage. Both those ideas have won in the electorate and any conservative politician that argues against them is only shooting himself in the foot.

zeroprime
Mar 25, 2006

Words go here.

Fun Shoe

BonoMan posted:

I don't. It was taken down pretty quickly and now her facebook is filled with "Welp. Guess I'm going to the beach. Anybody have a good book to read?"

Between Barack and a Hard Place: Racism and White Denial in the Age of Obama

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Sarion
Dec 24, 2003

peak debt posted:

It's a bit frustrating but remember the same thing is also true for birth control and gay marriage. Both those ideas have won in the electorate and any conservative politician that argues against them is only shooting himself in the foot.

I think "we" are winning those issues, but they aren't as safely won as gun rights. There is only a small sliver of the population that is vehemently anti-gun. Personally, I am anti-gun, but I also don't view it as a big threat so I don't ever vote with that issue in mind. And I suspect that's how most anti-gun people are at this point. Mainly because it just isn't an issue the left campaigns on, and apart from small groups no one listens to, no one is pushing them to do so.

The same can't be said of birth control and gay marriage. There are groups all over suing over the ACA mandate that their employees should have access to birth control. Millions of dollars are spent every election to prevent or ban gay marriage. And both issues still drive people to the polls in significant numbers. There is no doubt that they are on the losing side of history, but we're not quite there yet.

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