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Safety Factor posted:That and a lot of people thought it was connected to the Stallone movie. There was a lot of on-the-street advertising in NYC where I am so everyone I knew was aware of the movie but this was the biggest thing for them--they thought it was a remake of the Stallone movie and didn't look into it further. It was also nearly impossible to find a 2D showing and 3D costs $17 here now (as I learned when I paid for my tickets) so that was a problem as well, I think.
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leokitty posted:There was a lot of on-the-street advertising in NYC where I am so everyone I knew was aware of the movie but this was the biggest thing for them--they thought it was a remake of the Stallone movie and didn't look into it further. Confirming this, I saw Dredd ads up and down the place in NYC. In pretty much every subway terminal, street level ad spaces, etc. - big marketing failure in not getting people to understand the difference. That, and I feel people may be getting burned out on 3d, and with a name like DREDD -3D- it wouldn't have attracted the best of audiences. If it hits DVD/Blu-Ray and gets a big enough cult following, that's the best we can hope for at this point. It's a shame, because I really wanted to see where these guys take the franchise.
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Jefferoo posted:It's a shame, because I really wanted to see where these guys take the franchise. You may know the outline already, but in an interview in the Judge Dredd Megazine, Garland said the second would've been about pro-democracy terrorists, and the third would introduce a 'weird existential threat' in the form of Judge Death. drat shame!
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Dredd literally steps in front of an American flag and starts torturing someone. I'm not sure how you can view this as a serious movie.
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NovemberMike posted:Dredd literally steps in front of an American flag and starts torturing someone. I'm not sure how you can view this as a serious movie. That honestly sounds like something that would be done seriously in the Red Dawn remake or Call of Duty style games. He knows what we need to know! We will pull his toenails out, for AMERICA!
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:Uh, no. Don't try to make things more complicated than they are. Dredd didn't do well here (USA) because it wasn't marketed at all. Nobody had any idea it existed. Not because of some twisted worldview that precludes us from understanding the concepts of satire and authoritarianism. Yeah, whoever marketed and distributed Dredd was loving retarded and basically sunk a very good film. Even in Australia there was almost no advertising at all and Im not even sure the trailer was shown here before any movies at all. Secondly, the stuttered release date globaly certainly hurt it and would have promoted piracy in the cases where people would have gone to see it anyway. I do hope its a bit of a cult success on dvd/bluray as thats the only way its probably going to get a sequel now.
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Dredd wasn't even supposed to be released in Finland originally, but then we got a grand total of two screenings in seven cities as well as one in a fantasy/horror/scifi film festival. It also wasn't subtitled.
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Veib posted:Dredd wasn't even supposed to be released in Finland originally, but then we got a grand total of two screenings in seven cities as well as one in a fantasy/horror/scifi film festival. It also wasn't subtitled. In my city, it actually was just one screening - the one I couldn't attend due to work. Of course they didn't mention that anywhere until tickets came on sale so few people probably got screwed. Good thing the smaller, local theater did screenings as well so I got to see this. Sold out too, so that was a good thing, but not a lot of attention on the whole by distributors and zero ads. Such a good movie though, wasn't expecting anything so this was maybe the biggest surprise of the year so far!
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Man, this is a mopey thread sometimes! Who cares about the box office? "Oh no there won't be a sequel" There are hundreds of sequels to films that didn't make money. The democracy-as-illegal idea is the only one that would make an interesting sequel anyways. Judge Death sounds dumb.
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This is a movie was made by very dedicated people with a low (by sci-fi/action standards) budget. I'm sure that if they want to make a sequel they will find a way.
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Black Bones posted:The democracy-as-illegal idea is the only one that would make an interesting sequel anyways. Judge Death sounds dumb. Thats 10 years in the Iso-cubes for you, perp 
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Black Bones posted:Man, this is a mopey thread sometimes! Who cares about the box office? "Oh no there won't be a sequel" There are hundreds of sequels to films that didn't make money. So a movie with his most famous enemy and some of his most famous storylines would not be interesting?
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Black Bones posted:Man, this is a mopey thread sometimes! Who cares about the box office? "Oh no there won't be a sequel" There are hundreds of sequels to films that didn't make money. Apparently, the Judge Death thing was the original idea for this reboot, and was envisioned as a surreal and trippy existential battle. It got shelved partially because it was pretty much impossible to introduce the universe to audiences before they messed with it, and also because of budget reasons. A whacked out, surreal coda to the series where Dredd indirectly confronts a parody of himself in Judge Death after the depressing crushing of democracy in the second one sounds pretty cool to me.
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Wade Wilson posted:Do we know when this is coming out on DVD/Blu-Ray? 14th of January.
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Wade Wilson posted:EDIT: I'm thinking of pre-ordering this collection, is it a good deal? No, especially if it doesn't include the McMahon episodes of The Cursed Earth. Order Case Files 2, 3 and 5 instead - you'll get The Cursed Earth, Judge Death and its sequel and Block Mania part 9 in context, plus more than 100 issues worth by other artists including Ezquerra.
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Jedit posted:No, especially if it doesn't include the McMahon episodes of The Cursed Earth. Order Case Files 2, 3 and 5 instead - you'll get The Cursed Earth, Judge Death and its sequel and Block Mania part 9 in context, plus more than 100 issues worth by other artists including Ezquerra. I'm confused. Description of the Amazon Item posted:Book Description
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Wade Wilson posted:I'm confused. 2000AD is a weekly comic, not monthly, and in the early years it wasn't able to fully buffer long stories. The so-called "Mega-Epic" Dredd stories of 20+ episodes, which include The Cursed Earth and The Day The Law Died, shared their art duties among several artists until Ezquerra agreed to illustrate The Apocalypse War on condition that he would be the sole artist. All Bolland's work on Dredd predates The Apocalypse War (his last work was literally the last story before it began), so if the collection of his work only contains the parts he drew the stories will be incomplete.
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If it's just Bolland and none of the other artists many of the stories will be out of context or incomplete. Also McMahon's stuff is just as good as Bolland's and Ezquerra's is what really informed a lot of the design in the movie so you'll want those anyway.
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Oh, okay. It's about the same price to get Case Files 2 & 3 for now, anyway.
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Wade Wilson posted:Do we know when this is coming out on DVD/Blu-Ray? Personally, the Dredd stories with the Brian Bolland artwork are my favorites, but it's because Bolland creates such fantastic, meticulously-drawn comics and I love his artwork. Also, this reprint is in an oversized format, which really complements Bolland's detailed art, plus the stories have all been colored.* * I read these comics originally when they were printed only in B&W. To me, Dredd comics should always be in B&W, but modern audiences prefer everything colored with Photoshop. Sample of Bolland art below:
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twistedmentat posted:That honestly sounds like something that would be done seriously in the Red Dawn remake or Call of Duty style games.
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I love the OST of Dredd, it goes perfect with the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBvv5qpuNLc&feature=g-like  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wdHn9KPRwI&feature=relmfu
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Grey Fox V2 posted:Didn't Call of Duty full on endorse torture a few instalments ago? One or two of them did. EDIT: Speaking of which, I saw this film today and it was a cool, hour and a half film which I am perfectly happy with never seeing a sequel featuring Judge Death to it.
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Grey Fox V2 posted:Didn't Call of Duty full on endorse torture a few instalments ago? That game has never been parody. Not to drag the discussion on too long, but Black Ops 2 is endorsed by a war criminal.
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Inveigle posted:Personally, the Dredd stories with the Brian Bolland artwork are my favorites, but it's because Bolland creates such fantastic, meticulously-drawn comics and I love his artwork. Also, this reprint is in an oversized format, which really complements Bolland's detailed art, plus the stories have all been colored.*
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Fungah posted:Didn't Bolland do "gaze into the fist of Dredd"? Yes.
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Jimbot posted:Not to drag the discussion on too long, but Black Ops 2 is endorsed by a war criminal. Also the villain is a "hero of the 99% but the 99% are too stupid to realize that he's actually an evil terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" When Black Ops 1 was first coming out it was thought that it was going to be kind of silly given the torture trailers and all the Cold War conspiracy stuff. After its release though and with Black Ops 2 they're literally this movie but serious. Which makes this movie's failure at the box office even more sad. Like The Raid or The Dirty Dozen it can be enjoyed on the level or watching badasses destroying bad guys or on a different level equally. I can't think of anyone I know regardless of their preferences that wouldn't enjoy this film. But the name having 3D in it, the bland as hell posters that were everywhere, etc. made certain that no one would give it a second though, in NYC especially it just sort of blends in to the generic sci-fi ads for stuff that are everywhere all the time.
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Neo Rasa posted:Also the villain is a "hero of the 99% but the 99% are too stupid to realize that he's actually an evil terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" When Black Ops 1 was first coming out it was thought that it was going to be kind of silly given the torture trailers and all the Cold War conspiracy stuff. After its release though and with Black Ops 2 they're literally this movie but serious. Interestingly, the guy who wrote Black Ops II is also the screenwriter for Dark Knight Rises, David S. Goyer. First he put a little bit of Occupy Wall St. rhetoric into Bane's mouth and made his uprising a sort of new Reign Of Terror as the poors ruined the city, then he used that rhetoric as the dialogue of a terrorist leader. I'm thinking his politics are influencing his writing these days... I enjoyed Dredd more than any action film I've seen in a while, because of just how flatly violent and crazy it was. It sets the mood for Mega-City One really well & gives you a world to be hyper-violent in where it's actually OK because it's necessary for survival. A chance to explore that world could give us all some over-the-top action fun, so it's depressing to see it do so poorly. Maybe there was just a glut of action films around that time.
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A quick note on Bolland and Dredd; Judge Dredd: The Dark Judges is the first graphic novel ever to be a part of World Book Night, which for 2013 will also feature the likes of The Girl With The Pearl Earring, Casino Royale, The No 1 Ladies Detective Agency and Treasure Island. So if you want a free copy, find somewhere that's participating on April 23rd next year. And GAZE INTO THE FIST OF DREDD!
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Payndz posted:A quick note on Bolland and Dredd; Judge Dredd: The Dark Judges is the first graphic novel ever to be a part of World Book Night, which for 2013 will also feature the likes of The Girl With The Pearl Earring, Casino Royale, The No 1 Ladies Detective Agency and Treasure Island. So if you want a free copy, find somewhere that's participating on April 23rd next year. And GAZE INTO THE FIST OF DREDD! Brian Bolland's Dark Judges. Link to much higher-res version of the pic shown below: http://i.imgur.com/GOyyi.jpg
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I love how it looks like Judge Death is just going  DEATH!
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Judge Fire cracks me up every time I see him. Just the least ironic thing in the history of anything.
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Inveigle posted:Brian Bolland's Dark Judges. You know, I've been looking at that panel since it was first published in 1981, and it's only just now I've noticed that Bolland drew Judge Mortis with a tail. Ezquerra didn't, and I don't think any other artist has since either.
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Jedit posted:You know, I've been looking at that panel since it was first published in 1981, and it's only just now I've noticed that Bolland drew Judge Mortis with a tail. Ezquerra didn't, and I don't think any other artist has since either. Well, Judge Mortis does has a horse skull for a head, so I guess it makes sense he'd have a tail. I just love all the little details in that one panel.  I've always gotten such a kick out of Bolland's artwork. I even liked that silly Camelot 3000 mini series just because the Bolland art was so nice (terrible coloring though).
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I always really liked that Judge Death has a pterodactyl instead of an eagle.
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marktheando posted:I always really liked that Judge Death has a pterodactyl instead of an eagle. If you ever wondered where that pterodactyl came from, you really need to read Judgement on Gotham. It settles once and for all the question of whether Judge Death is a brony.
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Jedit posted:If you ever wondered where that pterodactyl came from, you really need to read Judgement on Gotham. It settles once and for all the question of whether Judge Death is a brony. I've read it, but it took me a moment to remember that bit haha.
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