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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:You'll note that Audi doesn't sell the RS4 Avant anymore, either. It just doesn't make much sense. Or the S4 avant, or the A4 avant (in the US)
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Nov 5, 2012 21:17
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BlackMK4 posted:You can do it with a diesel. Not a lot of 400 hp diesels that aren't giant trucks. Even BMW's new M550d, which has almost that much output at 376 hp, barely squeaks in at 30 mph highway when the euro mileage is best guess converted to a US equivalent.
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Nov 5, 2012 21:20
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I finally found the right shaggin' wagon. I just picked it up last week with a bad head gasket and horribly slipping clutch, hopefully the new gaskets arrive in the mail tonight. It's a 5speed!! I was looking for an older one, but drat, I couldn't pass $900 5speed wagon!
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Nov 5, 2012 21:30
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Cream_Filling posted:Not a lot of 400 hp diesels that aren't giant trucks. Even BMW's new M550d, which has almost that much output at 376 hp, barely squeaks in at 30 mph highway when the euro mileage is best guess converted to a US equivalent. The 335D with a JBD Tuner set to 100% makes around 310whp/500ftlb; consider like 15% drivetrain loss (who knows, ballpark?) - 362hp. People have reported returning same mileage as stock while highway cruising, and I've personally seen as high as 37mpg across a tank doing 80ish mph. I'm not sure where you saw that the M550d barely gets 30mpg highway when official figures are quote:average fuel consumption: 6.3 litres/100 kilometres (44.8 mpg imp), BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Nov 6, 2012 |
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Nov 6, 2012 01:01
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Jalopnik (I know) says the US is getting more BMW diesels, including a 3 series sport wagon. 
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Nov 6, 2012 21:32
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Phone posted:Jalopnik (I know) says the US is getting more BMW diesels, including a 3 series sport wagon.  That would make me happy.
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Nov 6, 2012 22:59
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1990's shitastic goodness. Camping wagon/perpetual project.
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Nov 7, 2012 02:37
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I saw an E63 AMG wagon today at the supermarket. I suspect other people were wondering why I was staring at a wagon. The owner appeared to be a man of wealth and taste. How many of those have they sold in the US anyhow? I suspect they're rarer than many Ferraris or Lamborghinis.
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Nov 7, 2012 03:46
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nm posted:I saw an E63 AMG wagon today at the supermarket. I suspect other people were wondering why I was staring at a wagon. Production numbers: E 55 AMG Wagon 2005 129 2006 64 E63 AMG Wagon 2007 67 2008 62 2009 24 Who knows if that includes all markets though... definitely rare as rocking horse poo.
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Nov 7, 2012 10:18
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Yea, the E Class AMG wagons are very rare and still command a premium. I was reading some article about them and Mercedes says that the target demographic for that car has an estimated income of something like $650,000+  Long story short, it's a car created for a VERY niche market, and each one now is custom ordered/made.
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Nov 7, 2012 17:06
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There seems to be a link between being crazy rich and wanting bespoke wagons. Didn't the Sultan of Brunei get Ferrari to throw together a few wagons, hatchbacks and shooting brakes? Aren't a lot of Juke Rs going to Dubai?
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Seat Safety Switch posted:There seems to be a link between being crazy rich and wanting bespoke wagons. Didn't the Sultan of Brunei get Ferrari to throw together a few wagons, hatchbacks and shooting brakes? Like the S73 T AMG? A S-class wagon with the 7.3l v12 that older paganis use. 
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GramCracker posted:Yea, the E Class AMG wagons are very rare and still command a premium. GramCracker posted:I was reading some article about them and Mercedes says that the target demographic for that car has an estimated income of something like $650,000+ Seat Safety Switch posted:There seems to be a link between being crazy rich and wanting bespoke wagons. Didn't the Sultan of Brunei get Ferrari to throw together a few wagons, hatchbacks and shooting brakes? One of my favorite such surveys was back from the AMC/Chrysler merger which showed the Jeep Grand Wagoneer having the wealthiest, best educated ownership demographic in the entire company. EnergizerFellow fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Nov 7, 2012 |
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Nov 7, 2012 17:34
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nm posted:Does anything with 400hp get an EPA 30mpg, even HWY (under current method)?
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Nov 7, 2012 17:56
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Tacier posted:This was my first car, the 1983 Toyota Tercel SR5 4WD Wagon. It packed a 62 horsepower engine and a stylish plaid interior. I miss it every day.
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Nov 7, 2012 18:22
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I'm a heathen but I much prefer the Corolla 4WD wagon. There's one here owned by a guy who uses it to tow his early Celica to rallycross. Here's a JDM one I spotted at Princess Auto: 
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Nov 7, 2012 18:26
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blk posted:I grew up in the rear-facing backseat of two consecutive Taurus wagons saying  Also, everything started breaking shortly after 50k miles on the first two (mainly power windows and transmissions), sold the 3rd one at ~52k miles based on the patterns from the previous two. I'll see if I can find some pictures later.
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Nov 7, 2012 18:35
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to the cars behind me.
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GramCracker posted:Yea, the E Class AMG wagons are very rare and still command a premium. Yeah, my city has a lot of old (for California) money (my neighbor has a batmobile) and he headed off in that direction. Mercedes wagons are very popular here, both new and bank vault era, but an e63 wagon, I think that is only my second sighting and that was probably the same car.
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Nov 7, 2012 19:24
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Humbug posted:Like the S73 T AMG? A S-class wagon with the 7.3l v12 that older paganis use. Holy poo poo.
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Nov 7, 2012 19:37
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BlackMK4 posted:The 335D with a JBD Tuner set to 100% makes around 310whp/500ftlb; consider like 15% drivetrain loss (who knows, ballpark?) - 362hp. People have reported returning same mileage as stock while highway cruising, and I've personally seen as high as 37mpg across a tank doing 80ish mph. Oh god. That sounds incredible. This is my best/worst decision: Dodge Magnum RT AWD. I think it might get 20 mpg if you towed it with a Prius and left the engine off. Note: In the picture, there may be some dog. Is it possible to magically convert a 16mpg engine/transmission setup to some more efficient futuristic modality, like in Back to the Future where you just feed it banana peels and budweiser dregs?
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Nov 7, 2012 19:44
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Steve French posted:Or the S4 avant, or the A4 avant (in the US) And the B8 is auto only. Here's my manual b7 a4  I had an e46 m3 before this and I like the avant better - so does my giant dog who fits comfortably in the back. It's slow and doesn't get great mileage, but I like it a lot...when I get bored I'll probably dump a bigger turbo in it or something.
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Nov 7, 2012 20:30
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havelock posted:And the B8 is auto only. Nice Avant. If you haven't had it tuned yet, get to your nearest APR dealer (or wait until their next sale, which happens about 3-4 times per year).
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chrisgt posted:shaggin' wagon. I'm curious to know, how many of you have had sex in your wagon?
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Zuiko-Digital posted:I'm curious to know, how many of you have had sex in your wagon? There's two reasons I put the seats down in my Subaru. Bikes and campground lovin.
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Zuiko-Digital posted:I'm curious to know, how many of you have had sex in your wagon? I have 
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Not a day goes by that I don't miss it. 
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BlackMK4 posted:Production numbers: To confirm I just checked a big used car website and right now and there are 60+ E55 and 50+ E63 wagons for sale on that site, so while they are fairly rare, they are not exceedingly so in Germany. FD RX-7s or 240Zs are a lot more rare, for example. Or CTS-Vs wagons.
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TurboLuvah posted:Not a day goes by that I don't miss it. Nice looking car. I didn't realize they made these in manuals and wagons. MY GIRLFRIEND has an 2007 NA AT one and as a passenger there doesn't seem to be much leg room but I haven't driven it much. Might have to try to find a GT manual wagon...
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DreamOn13 posted:Nice looking car. I didn't realize they made these in manuals and wagons. MY GIRLFRIEND has an 2007 NA AT one and as a passenger there doesn't seem to be much leg room but I haven't driven it much. Might have to try to find a GT manual wagon... The GT wagon in manual was only available in 2005. They are quite rare.
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DreamOn13 posted:Nice looking car. I didn't realize they made these in manuals and wagons. MY GIRLFRIEND has an 2007 NA AT one and as a passenger there doesn't seem to be much leg room but I haven't driven it much. Might have to try to find a GT manual wagon... 5MT Limited wagon, great combination. Best car I've ever sold.
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parrhesia posted:Those must be US-only numbers. I see AMG E-Class wagons fairly regularly and they're definitely not exciting enough for me to take pictures of (though maybe I should now?). Wagons in general are extremely rare. Fast wagons are even rarer. Fast wagons that cost as much as an R8 are rarer then hens teeth.
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TurboLuvah posted:5MT Limited wagon, great combination. Best car I've ever sold. There's one 26 miles away according to autotrader. 8k seems cheap, but it has over 100k miles.
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Zuiko-Digital posted:I'm curious to know, how many of you have had sex in your wagon? If a 70 Caddy hearse counts as a wagon then I have, wasn't my hearse, though 
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I was checking my instagram feed the other day and I saw a picture of the Audi RS4 wagon that someone took. As I read the caption underneath it, it seems that it might be coming to the US finally. If this is true, then it's going to be awesome.
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http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/aspley/cars-vans-utes/rare-bmw-525i-touring/1009059272 Crossposted from Craiglist Gold, but if there are any other wagon afficiandos in Brisbane check out this beautiful black '94 525i Touring with under 100 thousand Kms for only $4500  
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Nov 12, 2012 11:08
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Parents had one new in exactly that spec. Underpowered, vague steering, then it blew a head gasket. Probably their least favourite BMW of all they've owned.
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InitialDave posted:Parents had one new in exactly that spec. Underpowered, vague steering, then it blew a head gasket. Probably their least favourite BMW of all they've owned. All that seems fixable now.  ///M Wagon
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The better half has one of these as a company car - a 2010 Ford Falcon BF wagon. One of the last, as they finally stopped production in 2010 to be replaced by the Mondeo wagon which by all accounts is a better car but has nowhere near the load or towing capacity (and its FWD...) Our one is a factory gas (LPG) model which means huge range and cheap fuel (not that we pay for it as the company card does) but less power - a boat anchor 4 litre straight six in a 1700kg car makes this thing a slug. It does however have decent torque hence the towing ability- it will tow a double horse float (and horse) no problem. The 4-speed auto is a horrible, prehistoric piece of poo poo (the 20 year-old Toyota A341 in my Soarer is a vastly superior box) and the driving position and handling is not exactly confidence-inspiring - its a boat - and the traction control feature is amusing since you'd struggle to break traction on wet tarmac even with it off. Also the interior and build quality is pretty average, by my standards anyway. It's one party piece however is its load capacity - while you can sleep inside most wagons on a camping trip, this one will take a full double-size mattress plus all your camping gear with ease. Aside from lacking an LSD it is a brilliant car for camping trips and despite its shortcomings i think we will miss it when its gone... ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Nov 12, 2012 |
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DreamOn13 posted:There's one 26 miles away according to autotrader. 8k seems cheap, but it has over 100k miles. I was looking at a GT Limited manual wagon but at $16k and 70k miles it was not going to work. Still wish I got the wagon, but the sedan version had fewer than half the miles and was $4k cheaper.
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