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Dr Blah PhD posted:I have this same issue, I am with verizon on an unlimited data plan, and cant upgrade phones without going into a data plan. But, as I went to a mall today, I stopped in a verizon store and was given some seemingly interesting information I've never heard about the corporate store trick. How would that work? I thought Verizon's policy now is that you lose your grandfathered data plan if you buy at a subsidized price. I'd like to know more about this too. I have heard of the second loophole you mentioned. Basically, since you have a non-data phone on your family plan, you can use her subsidy to buy whichever smartphone you want. Then you activate the new, subsidized smartphone on your phone number and reactivate the dumbphone on the former non-data plan. This works because you DO NOT TOUCH the subsidy on your grandfathered data line, which prevents Verizon from forcing you into their data tiers.
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Dr Blah PhD posted:Another trick I was told, is that because I have a flip style, non data phone on my plan (my moms, who is afraid of smartphones), I can upgrade hers with my contract, keep the phone I want, switch numbers back to mine and have her have my old thunderbolt, albeit with no internet, but thats okay. I'm sure this isnt entirely correct, but it went something along those lines. That's incorrect, you can not activate a Thunderbolt and not have a data plan (shared or individual). I kind of question everything you were told because of that. Also, they wouldn't "honor your contract" because your old contract is up the second you sign a new one. Something doesn't add up here.
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Nov 10, 2012 15:09
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There are only two ways you can keep your unlimited data. 1) Buy a device outright (no contract extension, $500+) 2) Upgrade a non-unlimited line (non-smartphone or already tiered data), then place the equipment on your line. That's it. Doesn't matter if it's corporate or indirect, mall kiosk, best buy, radio shack, walmart or a corporate store. Although if you choose to exercise option #2 I would suggest you complete the second part of it (placing the equipment back on your line) at your own leisure and not letting an indirect agent, unless they seem to actually know what they're doing, do it for you. Chances are something will get screwed up. The only other loophole I know doesn't seem to work anymore, so Verizon seems to have closed that up. Also you cannot activate a smartphone on a line and not choose a data plan. This is a system mandated operation and it happens automatically when you place a smartphone ESN on a line.
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Nov 10, 2012 15:33
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if you add a new line to your plan, and that line has the new phone you want to switch. You do the equipment switch to get the new phone to your line. My question is then do you have to keep the new line with a data plan because it started with one, or can I switch it to a non-data plan linek?
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Nov 10, 2012 17:02
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Cbear posted:if you add a new line to your plan, and that line has the new phone you want to switch. You do the equipment switch to get the new phone to your line. My question is then do you have to keep the new line with a data plan because it started with one, or can I switch it to a non-data plan linek? As long as the new line isn't created through someone with their own ETF, like amazon or wirefly, yes you can drop it down to the cheapest plan your phone allows. (so you will need a dumbphone to do a $9.99 family plan)
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Nov 10, 2012 17:03
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Ok I thought so. Can I do the stuff all at once or will they not like that in storek?
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Nov 10, 2012 17:05
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SeaborneClink posted:There are only two ways you can keep your unlimited data. What happens if you do option 2, upgrading a non-unlimited non-smartphone line to a smartphone line? You have to add a data plan, which would be the new shared data plan, but how would that affect the unlimited plan on a different line? Is the unlimited line automatically converted to the shared data plan, or is it separate and you are essentially paying for 2 data plans, 1 unlimited and 1 shared data?
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Nov 10, 2012 19:40
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koolkal posted:What happens if you do option 2, upgrading a non-unlimited non-smartphone line to a smartphone line? You have to add a data plan, which would be the new shared data plan, but how would that affect the unlimited plan on a different line? Is the unlimited line automatically converted to the shared data plan, or is it separate and you are essentially paying for 2 data plans, 1 unlimited and 1 shared data? You have two options when you upgrade/add a line to an existing account. You can: 1) Choose from one of the tiered offerings 2GB/$30, 5GB/$50 2) Switch to a share plan. Option 1 will allow you to keep unlimited data, or any other data plan on your other lines. Option 2 will force all data plans off the individual lines, and migrate the entire account over to shared. With the caveat that you want all lines on a shared plan. You could choose to keep one line as an individual, but you would be paying significantly more to do that.
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Nov 10, 2012 20:25
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When I finally put my phone on charge this morning at 13%, it was almost 75 hours off charge. That was a bit over 1 hour screen on time and 1 hour's worth of calls.
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Nov 10, 2012 21:47
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If I'm on a family plan and upgrade my phone to an iPhone 5 we won't have to pay extra for 4g unless we want it? This is confusing.
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Nov 10, 2012 23:06
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PaganGoatPants posted:If I'm on a family plan and upgrade my phone to an iPhone 5 we won't have to pay extra for 4g unless we want it? This is confusing. 4g does not cost anything extra.
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Nov 10, 2012 23:20
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PaganGoatPants posted:If I'm on a family plan and upgrade my phone to an iPhone 5 we won't have to pay extra for 4g unless we want it? This is confusing. The iPhone 5 is going to do 4G whether you want it to or not. Data charges are essentially the same, regardless of your devices.
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Nov 11, 2012 01:49
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Are there any decent/affordable unlocked phone options better than my first-gen Galaxy S?
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Nov 12, 2012 02:55
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there is no such thing as an unlocked Verizon phone. If you have unlimited data and wish to preserve it (you do, even if you think you don't) the best choice right now is getting a Verizon Galaxy S III either new or used off of either craigslist or eBay.
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Nov 12, 2012 08:01
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Kim Jong Il posted:Are there any decent/affordable unlocked phone options better than my first-gen Galaxy S? Any HTC phone released since then is unlockable (bootloader wise). I've seen Rezounds going for less than $300 on swappa.com lately The Verizon G-Nex is always a favorite for hackability too. Also, define "affordable"?
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Nov 12, 2012 10:11
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SeaborneClink posted:You have two options when you upgrade/add a line to an existing account. Thanks for the info. My plan was going to be to get a subsidized S3 or Razr on a different line with some data plan, downgrade that line to a dumbphone and drop the data plan, and then activate the phone on my unlimited line.
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Nov 12, 2012 16:35
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koolkal posted:Thanks for the info. My plan was going to be to get a subsidized S3 or Razr on a different line with some data plan, downgrade that line to a dumbphone and drop the data plan, and then activate the phone on my unlimited line. This works fine as long as you dont buy the new phone from a reseller that has their own ETF.
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Nov 12, 2012 18:09
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Droid DNA Made official today so I can talk about. REALLY nice display. REALLY nice camera. REALLY light and thin. AWFUL Battery life.
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Nov 13, 2012 19:02
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Mighty Horse posted:Droid DNA Made official today so I can talk about. How long is the battery life?
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Nov 13, 2012 19:09
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Its a 2200 MAH battery with a 5" LCD and Quad Core. They say around 10 hours with normal "use" The tester I played with was off battery an hour and a half with some heavy use and was at 50% already.
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Nov 13, 2012 19:18
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Mighty Horse posted:Its a 2200 MAH battery with a 5" LCD and Quad Core. Even worse than that, it's a 2020 mAH battery, not 2200.
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Nov 13, 2012 19:26
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4.2 is out, but not for the VZW GNex. Woooo
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Nov 13, 2012 19:27
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kensei posted:4.2 is out, but not for the VZW GNex. Woooo
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Nov 13, 2012 19:52
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bull3964 posted:Even worse than that, it's a 2020 mAH battery, not 2200. I'd love to get my hands on whatever it is HTC's product people have been smoking, if they think a 5" follow-on to the Thunderbolt is an awesome idea.
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Nov 13, 2012 20:32
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Really when you think about it power outlets are everywhere. I mean it's 1080p so technically it's a TV, and TVs are supposed to be plugged in all the time, right?
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Nov 13, 2012 20:43
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Really when you think about it power outlets are everywhere. I mean it's 1080p so technically it's a TV, and TVs are supposed to be plugged in all the time, right? Don't give them ideas, or else come CES we'll see phones start to require rabbit ears with aluminum foil wrapped on the ends or else they won't get reception.
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Nov 13, 2012 20:50
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Really when you think about it power outlets are everywhere. I mean it's 1080p so technically it's a TV, and TVs are supposed to be plugged in all the time, right? Preview of what will be required on a legacy phone once VZW implements VoLTE
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Nov 13, 2012 20:57
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kitten smoothie posted:Don't give them ideas, or else come CES we'll see phones start to require rabbit ears with aluminum foil wrapped on the ends or else they won't get reception. 
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Nov 13, 2012 20:57
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kbar posted:there is no such thing as an unlocked Verizon phone. Can I buy a Nexus 4 from google and preserve unlimited data?
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Nov 13, 2012 21:50
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Secret Sweater posted:Can I buy a Nexus 4 from google and preserve unlimited data?
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Nov 13, 2012 21:53
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Yeah, but it won't work on Verizon's network. Oh lame. So they're not planning on bringing the 4 onto their network at all? I'm still rocking a Droid 2 that's in desperate need of replacing. What is the option of choice currently for upgrading?
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Nov 13, 2012 22:01
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Secret Sweater posted:Oh lame. So they're not planning on bringing the 4 onto their network at all? I'm still rocking a Droid 2 that's in desperate need of replacing. What is the option of choice currently for upgrading? Doctor rear end in a top hat on the last page posted:iOS: I have to be honest that despite the fact I made the jump from Android to iOS, I'm somewhat interested in the new WP8.
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Nov 13, 2012 22:03
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Secret Sweater posted:Oh lame. So they're not planning on bringing the 4 onto their network at all? I'm still rocking a Droid 2 that's in desperate need of replacing. What is the option of choice currently for upgrading? the new phone is GSM and they are committed to only doing one phone this time around. If you are on a droid 2 then you shouldn't be in contract. you could buy the 4 and get a prepaid service.
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Nov 13, 2012 22:08
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The more I read about the DNA, the more I think HTC just expected to stuff a 1080p screen in a phone, call it a done deal, and expect people to flock to it. There's a reason why you are losing money hand over fist in the mobile game right now HTC. Earlier, I missed the gems about it only having 16gb of storage with no SD card slot. It's also THICKER than the Razr HD MAXX while having more surface area and a smaller battery.
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Nov 13, 2012 22:13
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bull3964 posted:The more I read about the DNA, the more I think HTC just expected to stuff a 1080p screen in a phone, call it a done deal, and expect people to flock to it. Doesn't the whole of the RAZR line use (S)AMOLED([HD|+]) screens? That could be a big difference in the screen thicknes. Though after handling the OneS, I can't see how HTC couldn't make a phone thinner than the RAZRs, as that thing is wafer-thin.
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Nov 13, 2012 22:15
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bull3964 posted:The more I read about the DNA, the more I think HTC just expected to stuff a 1080p screen in a phone, call it a done deal, and expect people to flock to it.
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Nov 13, 2012 22:18
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So the note 2 is coming out at the end of the month and I honestly can't wait to get my grubby paws all over it. I convinced my mom to snag one on att (upgrade from a Motorola ATRIX), she loves the drat thing. But since att doesn't have LTE in my city, her battery life is consistent with being stuck on HSPA+. Which is still exceptional. From the time she leaves for work until she gets home, she hasn't been less than 40%. But I know she offloads onto wifi. She has unlimited data, but att reception at her office is lackluster. Now that's all well and good, but verizon LTE here is obnoxiously fast. And I've grown quite fond of my Maxx's battery life. The note 2 has a 3100 mAh battery. Am I to believe that the 200 difference between the note 2 and the razr Maxx will be that much different? I understand the obese screen on the note 2 will suck juice especially @the higher resolution. I know its going to be different, I'm just worried I'm going to be very disappointed. The galaxy nexus battery life made me terrified to get samsunged ever again, but gee wiz do I want this phone. Worse case: I need to be able to text for up to 18hours without access to a wall outlet. (Work) I know that sounds crazy but my Maxx handles that without cracking 50%. A little configuration and I'm sure I could bend the note 2 to my will. I suppose I could always get another battery. Two 3100 battery's would solve this dilemma, but I've only ever found need for a second battery while traveling. Which is usually for recreation, hence a plethora of electricity for my gadgets. I've also never been a huge fan of carrying around more than I need. (Efficiency snob). If anyone could shed some droplets of sun light on any of this, I would really appreciate it. cuedotcom fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Nov 13, 2012 |
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If you are talking about the original Razr MAXX, the Note 2 should be better on battery due to the newer SoC. I say 'should' though because we don't have any Exynos/LTE combinations on Verizon to compare it to.
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Nov 13, 2012 23:49
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bull3964 posted:If you are talking about the original Razr MAXX, the Note 2 should be better on battery due to the newer SoC. I say 'should' though because we don't have any Exynos/LTE combinations on Verizon to compare it to. I am, and that is my only hesitation.
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Would I be crazy to consider purchasing a Razr HD right now? The DNA was a bit of a let down for me with the battery life, so I can't foresee any other phones I would want. The 8X is a possibility, but I'm not sure I want to hack solutions together for Google syncing on WP8.
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