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Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
I can't play till like 10 EST so if you guys haven't started yet when I get on I'll try to get in.

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Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Performed my first 4 soul fist combo online today! It felt pretty good. I even got a love(?)mail about my Morrigan even though she's only decent. I'm just assuming he hadn't seen a Morrigan do any fancy combos online.

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



Dren posted:

I can't play till like 10 EST so if you guys haven't started yet when I get on I'll try to get in.

If you mean at 10 and not like 10:20 I'm sure the people who show up won't mind getting some casuals in.


Edit::wooper:



We had a Strange off. It was odd.

Thursday November 15th 9PMEst/6PMPst irc://irc.synirc.net/sa-mvc3

:spidey:PS3:spidey:
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/v5er44pdve

:itjb:xbox:itjb:
Available upon request lol

Ybrik fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Nov 9, 2012

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
I couldn't make it last night, sorry dudes.

Does anyone have the links to GF from last weekend's tournies? I'd like to see the Nova/Spencer/Strange stuff Viscant was talking about.

Yesterday I decided that Nova would be a better point for Sent/Dante than Wolverine and started playing with Nova for the first time since Ultimate came out. Holy poo poo Nova is such a good fit. He has much better synergy with Drones/Jam Session than Wolverine does. He has options for protecting the drones call. He can extend his combos with either drones or Jam Session. He can very easily covert off of Jam Session into a full combo. His simple combos are easy and do Wolverine damage.

I like Sent/Dante but Wolverine has a bunch problems with them. He can't reliably get a full combo off Jam Session so he has to TAC for damage. Extending his combo with Jam Session is a bit timing sensitive and I drop it occasionally. He can't protect a naked drones call, he has to put the opponent in blockstun in order to call drones safely. He can't easily extend his combo with drones.

I think to have a good Wolvie team you need to give him a beam and a lockdown assist. I don't want to play Iron Man, Mags, or Doom to get a beam assist so I think I'm gonna have to drop Wolvie.

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



You could always learn P Gorath's team Wolvie/Joe?/Shuma.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
What Joe assist does he use? What assists does Joe even have besides Shocking Pink? Mystic Ray is pretty good for Wolverine but good Shuma combos are not easy. I do like Shuma and Joe though.

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



Dren posted:

What Joe assist does he use? What assists does Joe even have besides Shocking Pink? Mystic Ray is pretty good for Wolverine but good Shuma combos are not easy. I do like Shuma and Joe though.

I just looked it up and Joe's assist is shocking pink but he doesn't play shuma gorath anymore lol he plays Rocket Raccoon anchor.

EmperorFritoBandito
Aug 7, 2010

by exmarx
My Thursday class is done :bubblewoop:, so I will be joining you guys for sure next week if the tourneys are still going on and my state hasn't seceded from the Union.

I've actually missed getting my rear end kicked. It was like a comfortable old sweater.

Sade
Aug 3, 2009

Can't touch this.
No really, you can't
Team Nemo Spencer/Strange touch-of-death... from a throw?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyPnNPXQSXM

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Sade posted:

Team Nemo Spencer/Strange touch-of-death... from a throw?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyPnNPXQSXM

Next year's EVO is gonna be amazing...

Smeego
Sep 9, 2001

japan sucks
It's awesome seeing Doctor Strange in the limelight for once. I knew you weren't total rear end, Stephen.. :allears:

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef

Sade posted:

Team Nemo Spencer/Strange touch-of-death... from a throw?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyPnNPXQSXM

You forgot to mention it builds 1 meter too :)

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

Super Rad posted:

You forgot to mention it builds 1 meter too :)

That Strange Loop almost build 4 meters. That is just vanilla levels of silly.

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



Orange Crush Rush posted:

That Strange Loop almost build 4 meters. That is just vanilla levels of silly.

Patch Strange :getin:

But any more Strange play is good play. I wonder if this continues long enough will the best team be Viper/Dante/Strange? Unblockable crumple into hard tag death combo that builds meter.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


The interesting thing here is that nothing in that video is really all that new. Rogueyoshi and other players demonstrated similar Strange corner combos in Youtube videos shortly after UMvC3 was released. What is new is someone actually running with the idea of pairing Nova/Spencer's ability to carry any and every combo to the corner with Strange, and that's just because no one wanted to deal with his deficiencies until Nemo showed the pluses of the team's composition I guess.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

What's awesome is that Nova is really mobile and fairly hard to block for more than a few seconds, so you can use Nova's advantages to open people up, get a kill with Strange, and then set up and Eye of Agamotto to allow Nova to tag in and set up an entry mixup. It's a self-perpetuating gameplan that's really strong.

Also, it's not broken cause that Flames Of The Faltine loop is hard as gently caress.

iPodschun
Dec 29, 2004

Sherlock House

Dren posted:

Does anyone have the links to GF from last weekend's tournies? I'd like to see the Nova/Spencer/Strange stuff Viscant was talking about.
Here are Combofiend's matches against Forward

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scALkDY6n60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkR3aoDs-QI

Youmacon footage is at http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive/b/338087513 with Yipes vs Justin in losers semifinal at 8:07:30

edit: Viscant's post for this page http://www.brokentier.com/blogs/news/6858070-viscants-breakdown-of-nova-spencer-dr-strange

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADKiilHBHyg

Time for a patch?

Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


We'll see a MVC4 before we see another patch.

EDIT: I didn't think I could hate zero more than I already do. :argh:

great big cardboard tube
Sep 3, 2003


It's annoying as gently caress that he has it but the solution is to just not pushblock. Plenty of other characters already have setups like this and the way to not get thrown is to not push, you really shouldn't be in that habit on incoming.

You can't be airthrown after blocking if you don't push so just don't do it if you know there's a throw opportunity coming up. I spent a bunch of time working out ways to get Frank's FFC on incoming characters and then found this out and was pretty sad.

iPodschun
Dec 29, 2004

Sherlock House
Here's yet another thing for Zero players that may or may not be useful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpM5p_8lexs

Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Seizure Robot posted:

It's annoying as gently caress that he has it but the solution is to just not pushblock. Plenty of other characters already have setups like this and the way to not get thrown is to not push, you really shouldn't be in that habit on incoming.

You can't be airthrown after blocking if you don't push so just don't do it if you know there's a throw opportunity coming up. I spent a bunch of time working out ways to get Frank's FFC on incoming characters and then found this out and was pretty sad.

Well, that's good to know. Still hate zero though. :colbert:

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



Tonight :black101:



Thursday November 15th 9PMEst/6PMPst irc://irc.synirc.net/sa-mvc3

:spidey:PS3:spidey:
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/v5er44pdve

:itjb:xbox:itjb:
Available upon request lol

You know the drill or at least I hope you do. I'm gonna bump this at 5 tp see if that has an effect on turnout.

MarioTeachesWiping
Nov 1, 2006

by XyloJW
I just picked this up, and I'm definitely not used to the play style compared to something like Street Fighter IV. Any tips on how to get the most of this game, or are there any good beginner's guides out there?

GoodCleanFun
Jan 28, 2004

Ybrik posted:

Tonight :black101:



Thursday November 15th 9PMEst/6PMPst irc://irc.synirc.net/sa-mvc3

:spidey:PS3:spidey:
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/v5er44pdve

:itjb:xbox:itjb:
Available upon request lol

You know the drill or at least I hope you do. I'm gonna bump this at 5 tp see if that has an effect on turnout.
How late do these typically go?

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



Cyra posted:

I just picked this up, and I'm definitely not used to the play style compared to something like Street Fighter IV. Any tips on how to get the most of this game, or are there any good beginner's guides out there?

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Marv...+strategy+guide They call it the bible for good reason but if you don't want to drop any money yet you can also use http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?forums/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3.53/

GoodCleanFun posted:

How late do these typically go?

We typically finish at about 8 but it really depends on how many people enter. The night of 18:allears:

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

Ybrik posted:

Tonight :black101:



Thursday November 15th 9PMEst/6PMPst irc://irc.synirc.net/sa-mvc3

:spidey:PS3:spidey:
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/v5er44pdve

:itjb:xbox:itjb:
Available upon request lol

You know the drill or at least I hope you do. I'm gonna bump this at 5 tp see if that has an effect on turnout.

Signed up. Not 100% sure I'll be able to play in this but hopefully!

Krad
Feb 4, 2008

Touche

Cyra posted:

I just picked this up, and I'm definitely not used to the play style compared to something like Street Fighter IV. Any tips on how to get the most of this game, or are there any good beginner's guides out there?

Watch lots of games, it'll make you understand how everything works.

GoodCleanFun
Jan 28, 2004

Ybrik posted:

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Marv...+strategy+guide They call it the bible for good reason but if you don't want to drop any money yet you can also use http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?forums/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3.53/


We typically finish at about 8 but it really depends on how many people enter. The night of 18:allears:

Count me in. Just meet in irc at 9pmEst?

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



Ybrik posted:

Tonight :black101:



Thursday November 15th 9PMEst/6PMPst irc://irc.synirc.net/sa-mvc3

:spidey:PS3:spidey:
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/v5er44pdve

:itjb:xbox:itjb:
Available upon request lol

You know the drill or at least I hope you do. I'm gonna bump this at 5 to see if that has an effect on turnout.

One last reminder and then I'll edit in the results afterwards.

Fenn the Fool!
Oct 24, 2006
woohoo

Cyra posted:

I just picked this up, and I'm definitely not used to the play style compared to something like Street Fighter IV. Any tips on how to get the most of this game, or are there any good beginner's guides out there?

The neutral game in Marvel is a two step process, first you have to exert control over the match and then you have to use that control to actually open your opponent up. Being able to see when you've done that first part and have the opportunity to go into the second takes a lot of experience. Find something that your opponent is forced to respect; moves with big, space controlling, hitboxes that give you a combo like Haggar's pipe, Doom's Foot Dive, and Virgil's everything. This isn't top tier strategy in and of itself, but it lets you exert some control on the match fairly easily and safely, which lets you get a feel for when your opponent is afraid to press a button.

The game has a lot of bullshit, the system is so open ended that a good deal (but certainly not all) of high level play revolves around engineering the most incredibly ambiguous and unfair setups possible. It can be very frustrating when you start playing, but the charm of the game is in watching and creating some really beautiful bullshit. Team dynamics is a big part of this but for someone just starting out you don't need to sweat it too much, you'll be better served by playing until you have a handle on things. Just make sure that in a typical match all of your assists are useful (and you're actually using them), your last character won't be useless on his own, and you can DHC between characters effectively.

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy
Alternatively: call assist -> teleport.

Fenn the Fool!
Oct 24, 2006
woohoo

Brosnan posted:

Alternatively: call assist -> teleport.

There are still times where you can and can't do this safely which vary depending on character, assist, matchup, spacing, the list goes on; it sounds simple but there are a lot of factors involved. As a new player I know I had trouble getting a handle on those factors so I'm trying to outline the general thought process. There are much fewer ways that you can get punished for going for a Foot Dive and so I think it's one of the better ways to start learning the game.

EmperorFritoBandito
Aug 7, 2010

by exmarx
Today I learned that Strider is a bastard and Arthur is deliriously awesome.

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



Results :black101:




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http://challonge.com/psmgoons24
First Place: Acute Hepatitis Doctor Doom/Sentinel/Strider
Second Place: Ybrik Spider-Man/Taskmaster/Super-Skrull/Rocket Raccoon
Third Place: JMCrofts Haggar/Sentinel/Arthur

Good Games all around as once again we had some new blood and it was recorded Huzzah.
Recording Link(thank you b0lt): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMz_29vlOPI

2 weeks Thursday November 29th 9PMEst/6PMPst irc://irc.synirc.net/sa-mvc3

There will not be one next week cause its Thanksgiving and everyone should be enjoying a nice meal and then going out the next day to buy stuff they don't need for people they care about:patriot:
:spidey:PS3:spidey:
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/y4aqmayjr7

:itjb:xbox:itjb:
Available upon request lol

Ybrik fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Nov 16, 2012

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy
GGs everyone. I think I will take the advice of whoever suggested it in chat, and reorder my team to Haggar/Arthur/Sent. The thought of DHCing haggar out into goddess bracelet and transitioning into full-on keepaway mode is pretty tantalizing.

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



So this is slightly off-topic but I just want JMC to know that I watched 30% health tron hammer his whole mvc2 squad with corner throw resets yesterday.

Your Bison is awesome. Did you see someone else playing him somewhere?

SilentD
Aug 22, 2012

by toby

EmperorFritoBandito posted:

Today I learned that Strider is a bastard and Arthur is deliriously awesome.

I loved strider in the other games but I've always found him completely uncontrollable in this game. I'm sure it's just a function of spending more time on it, but I always feel as if the character is just a bit faster than what it is I'm trying to do.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

Elephunk posted:

So this is slightly off-topic but I just want JMC to know that I watched 30% health tron hammer his whole mvc2 squad with corner throw resets yesterday.

Your Bison is awesome. Did you see someone else playing him somewhere?

Nah I just saw a couple youtubes and thought he looked cool. I'm planning on dropping him though, I never really get anything done with him :smith:

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dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21NWoTxP8WY

Play this team to win.

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