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TinTower posted:Does anyone else get these people near where they live? Please don't say it's a Yorkshire-only thing. If anyone here is a hot, buff/cut, tall, striking, non-Aryan male in Yorkshire, you now have a mission. Godspeed.
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So the EDL website (assuming this is the main official site, I'm not sure) has been hacked apparently this happened days ago and no-one's bothered to fix it http://englishdefenceleague.org/
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ClownSyndrome posted:So the EDL website (assuming this is the main official site, I'm not sure) has been hacked They can't fix it... They've not very good... They've moved to englishdefenceleague.net instead.
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More on that moron and the white poppy wreath. quote:The strangest events take place during Remembrance Day.
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quote:However, Caroll denied he intended to commit any such offence.
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Kevin Carroll (EDL candidate for Bedfordshire PCC Elections) was only ever going to get elected if there was a pathetically low turnout. Unfortunately there was a pathetically low turnout of >20% and the silent majority who support the EDL have continued to be silent, as he has apparently come 4th out of the 5 candidates.
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I've been a bit crap recently and wanted to put a big post together over the EDL's last demo and Kev making an utter twat out of himself on Remembrance Day... I'll get to it eventually. For the time being however, you might be aware that (as already noted) the PCC elections were today and Kev, in the words of the British Freedom Party itself: quote:achieved an historic result in the election for Bedfordshire Police and Crime Commissioner. Here's the article in its full, alternate reality glory: quote:British Freedom’s Kevin Carroll yesterday achieved an historic result in the election for Bedfordshire Police and Crime Commissioner. Bolding theirs. While in another interview: quote:ommissioner (PCC) candidate Kevin Carroll has claimed that his election campaign would have been fairer had it taken place in ‘Zimbabwe or China.’ These people are fascinating.
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Its is a victory for them though. 8000 people voted for him. 8000 people shared his terrible fascist views. 8000 votes despite his thuggish behaviour during campaigning. Thats 20 times more people than they have had present at the largest EDL demo in the last couple of years. I dont however think its a sign of things to come- it was a ridiculously low turnout, but its still the sort of morale boost that the EDL and their ilk need. I know its slightly comparing apples to oranges (although numbers voting were pretty much identical) but for contrast, the TUSC candidate for the Bristol mayoral elections that happened on the same day, standing on a socialist platform got a 1/6th of the votes Carrol got. I dont think the left should be too smug. Serotonin fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Nov 17, 2012 |
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As I understand it, the EDL/BFP sunk everything they had into this campaign. Billboards, mass leaflets, and lots of banging on doors. If Beds was like most of the rest of the country, few other candidates will have done nearly so much. Many of the 8000 will have voted for Kev on the reasoning "at least he bothered to turn up / tell us who he was". And not all necessarily shared the full depths of his boneheaded fascism; enough dogwhistle phrases and many otherwise reasonable people can fall for the rhetoric. Still, it is a worrying sign.
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Galaspar posted:As I understand it, the EDL/BFP sunk everything they had into this campaign. Billboards, mass leaflets, and lots of banging on doors. If Beds was like most of the rest of the country, few other candidates will have done nearly so much. Many of the 8000 will have voted for Kev on the reasoning "at least he bothered to turn up / tell us who he was". And not all necessarily shared the full depths of his boneheaded fascism; enough dogwhistle phrases and many otherwise reasonable people can fall for the rhetoric. Still, it is a worrying sign. There is also a no platform policy in the entire media for anyone left of Labour. It's very hard to get any media attention for anything. See also: Anytime anyone goes on strike. The EDL/BFP/BPP/BNP/BF/whatever don't challenge the status quo and so get a lot of attention from the media. They represent what the media like to portray working class politics as, small minded and racist, and so it's for the best that a professional political class handles running the country with no real input from the population. The neo-nazis get so much media attention because it lets them tar the working class with the same brush and justify ignoring their concerns. Any socialist party is going to have to deal with either no media coverage or all media coverage being incredibly hostile. There is no mainstream media presence for the ideas of socialism, whereas if you crack open the Daily Mail or Daily Express the core ideas of fascism are givena public airing daily.
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I don't find it too worrying yet, they pulled out every stop, and if rumours are true, emptied the kitty on this attempt. The EDL used to have a shitload of support when they were shiny and new and made pains have the image of only combating "extreme islam" (every time I hear or see that phrase I picture a stereotypical Imaan doing a crazy stunt on a skateboard). They drew in several thousand a time to demonstrations, and had a wide base of support, until literal nazis started falling out of the cracks, and it became painfully obvious to a lot of the initial supporters that "radical islam" was in fact a nice dogwhistle for "loving pakis". Now they celebrate if they get a few dozen to a national demonstration. I imagine the BFP will go the same way- make every effort at a party level to seem like a legitimate concern, while the members continue to walk around seig heiling and chanting "mohamed was a paedo" on the weekend while getting bashed by the plod/concerned locals/antifa. Cue infighting and fraudulent activity, and they will fall apart only to come back as something else in the future. Since the BNP and NF declined so heavily, the far right seems to get more and more fractious by the day, and I doubt the BFP has much of a chance of uniting them together.
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Does the UK do ballots in random order or alphabetical? I could see lazy people who felt like they needed to vote even without knowing the candidates just marking him since his surname is first in alphabetical order.
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They're usually alphabetical. There was a case at one of the Scottish elections recently where the SNP had themselves listed as 'Alex Salmond for First Minister' on one of the ballots, so that they'd appear at the top of the list.
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John Charity Spring posted:They're usually alphabetical. There was a case at one of the Scottish elections recently where the SNP had themselves listed as 'Alex Salmond for First Minister' on one of the ballots, so that they'd appear at the top of the list. AAAAA (alcohol all around amazing areas) Party.  Kind of like that? Reminds me of at school where somehow the did with first name and surname beginning with Z was somehow cool for being read out. Petty score pointing. I don't know. I think it does nothing and is just a kind of ego point match which somehow think they will get more votes. As if there were people who wanted to vote but knew nothing about the parties, wouldn't they just tick a random box? or atleast vote for something that their parents support et cetera.
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Nov 17, 2012 23:58
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Kevin Carroll (EDL candidate for Bedfordshire PCC Elections) was only ever going to get elected if there was a pathetically low turnout. Unfortunately there was a pathetically low turnout of >20% and the silent majority who support the EDL have continued to be silent, as he has apparently come 4th out of the 5 candidates. Jesus christ, what poor fucker got less votes than them?
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Nov 21, 2012 19:23
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The Muslim candidate.  No, seriously. That's one of the things they celebrated.
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More specifically, an independent called Mezanur Rashid, who apparently is a community worker of some sort, and who Kev absolutely thrashed by 599 votes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-19492446 The really irritating bit is that Kev got double the share of the vote that he needed to save his deposit.
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Shelf Adventure posted:The Muslim candidate. Trin Tragula posted:More specifically, an independent called Mezanur Rashid, who apparently is a community worker of some sort, and who Kev absolutely thrashed by 599 votes.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:It seems that despite them losing this can't really be called a straight win for the good side, eh. The best case scenario that folks are putting forward is that those votes Carroll got represent his, and the far-right in that area's, entire voter base. We know that far right voters are very motivated. Also contributing to this are those people who voted not knowing who the gently caress he was. No one gave a poo poo about the PCC elections - a lot of after-interview voxpops had people utterly forgetting who they'd voted for - others deliberately voting for people who simply didn't represent a mainstream political party.
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Things have been understandably quiet, as the edl really seem to be dying out. Most recent spat has been in the last few days- a prominent fuckwit and de facto leader of the Essex "division" (one of the few southern ones still active, and the most active one at that) returned to the edl after joining with a few slightly more openly fascist and even more inactive splitter groups. Hel Gower, who acts as Tommy's mouthpiece and is essentially in control while he serves his time (while being charged with more crimes) apparently has a long running spat with him, and she promptly found herself outed as a "Jewess and zionist collaborator" on Redwatch, complete with personal details. So obviously the thing to do is to take the fight to facebook and call each other names. Cue even more edl'ers quitting outright and blaming the death of the edl on each other, cocaine, marxists, stella artois and "the left". Screenshots and further story here: http://edlnews.co.uk/index.php/latest-news/latest-news/933-hell-gower-swings-wrecking-ball-at-the-remains-of-the-edl for general amusement
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aeverous posted:
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DesperateDan posted:Stay classy EDL They've got a real hard on for killing scores of children don't they. Was there a similar tweet after breivik?
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DesperateDan posted:Stay classy EDL  This is surprising even from fascists.
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If it's real, that is low, even by EDL standards. Because killing kids is always such a good thing because of what may be their parents political choices. gently caress EDL.
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The fact that we're not sure is so loving sad.
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Kurtofan posted:
Nah, not really. There's a distinct lack of humanity with regards to anyone who doesn't fit their worldview, even more so when the victims oppose them in their fantasy oppressed scenarios.
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Crashbee posted:They're saying it's fake. Quelle surprise!
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I'm guessing Hel figured it worked with Brevik, and didn't bother to find out about the story before applying the same response to it. No it isn't The whole thing was a fake. I apologise. Meanwhile: 
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KayTee posted:It's real. It's from Hel Gower, who isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, and yes - there was "defense" of Brevik from the same folks. Should have used the Beck picture.
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KayTee posted:It's real. It's from Hel Gower, who isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, and yes - there was "defense" of Brevik from the same folks. A baby having a tantrum is certainly an image I'd want associated with my political movement! If they hadn't already proven themselves to be total idiots I'd think it was a pisstake.
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Blond hair, blue eyes. But of course
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KayTee posted:It's real. It's from Hel Gower, who isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, and yes - there was "defense" of Brevik from the same folks. That's the creepiest looking kid I've ever seen. I'm talking children of the corn meets half spider-baby creepy. He's just used his mind control powers on you and they didn't work so he's burst into howling tears while skittering towards you on eight barbed legs.
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Stottie Kyek posted:Where's the kid's shirt? Stolen by a Muzzie paedo, clearly. It's a really very effective advert, if you're a moron.
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Stottie Kyek posted:Where's the kid's shirt? I can't help but keep thinking he cropped the pic himself from his own stash.
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