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Beowulfs_Ghost posted:Boortz used to be a pretty middle of the road Libertarian and equal opportunity when it came to lambasting the big parties. Another one of those guys that got started doing sports radio and moved into politics, capitalizing on bashing both sides. He's gotten especially worse since he announced his retirement. Now it just seems like he's saying poo poo just to say it (Union thugs, socialism, marxist and blah blah blah). I used to find him tolerable at one point when his thing was more about ending the drug war and and poo poo like that but when I listen to him these days I count start counting the blatant lies almost immediately.
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BiggerBoat posted:He's gotten especially worse since he announced his retirement. Now it just seems like he's saying poo poo just to say it (Union thugs, socialism, marxist and blah blah blah). I used to find him tolerable at one point when his thing was more about ending the drug war and and poo poo like that but when I listen to him these days I count start counting the blatant lies almost immediately. I've noticed the same thing, I wonder how much of his filter coming off has to come from realizing despite being at least if not more talented than guys like Beck or Hannity he was never going to make it to that level nationally. Maybe it's just a byproduct of being old and cranky while having "gently caress Off" money? I found this funny. He called out Media Matters by name online, and they took him up on his challenge to debate. Of course he cowered out at the last minute because he was "booked", so Media Matters recorded the booked segment. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/14/neal-backs-out/191378
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Speaking of Boortz, I caught a few minutes of him today and he was on air applauding massive layoffs, largely done out of spite, and calling it a good thing since the Republicans lost. Remember when liberals and democrats all hoped the economy would tank, the unemployment rate would rise and that the terrorists would win when Bush was president? Neither do I, but they painted anyone who questioned what Bush was doing back then with this brush. Neil Boortz was on air today celebrating that people were losing their jobs and actively rooting for the unemployment rate to rise so that we can all learn our lesson. gently caress him and his ilk for real. They call themselves patriots and wrap themselves in the flag while openly rooting for the country and our democratically elected president to fail and for people to suffer because it's the only we'll learn. They're totalitarians, dictators, propagandists and absolutists who don't believe in democracy at all that are only happy when the people they disagree with politically, socially and religiously suffer and/or die. Anything less than "every man for himself" is tantamount to the second coming of Hitler. All you need to know about them is that they're happier when more people are out of work because it means they get to be right. This stuff really bothers me probably more than it should. edit: Good lord. What happened to my spelling and grammar? BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Nov 15, 2012 |
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Typical Pubbie posted:Not at all. It should bother other people more. Probably so. So what can be done about it? Left wing alternatives are mostly horrible and get boring really quick. There are a few distinct camps of folks who listen to this right wing stuff. The true believers, who run to it for information and who can't form an opinion of their own practically on anything until they are told what to think about it. Then there's the people like most of us in this thread who just tune in for the insanity, the comedic value of it all and to generally keep tabs on it and the occasional listener who generally can't be bothered with such things that tunes in once a year and is shocked at what's being said and that so many people believe it. I bet FOX News had record ratings on election night, but how much of that was from people who voted Obama and just wanted to watch the reaction and the spin, how much was from the True Believers and how much was from people who just don't know the difference? I'd bet at least a quarter of FOX/Rush/Levin ratings are from people who either just want to gawk at it.
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BiggerBoat posted:There are a few distinct camps of folks who listen to this right wing stuff. The true believers, who run to it for information and who can't form an opinion of their own practically on anything until they are told what to think about it. Then there's the people like most of us in this thread who just tune in for the insanity, the comedic value of it all and to generally keep tabs on it and the occasional listener who generally can't be bothered with such things that tunes in once a year and is shocked at what's being said and that so many people believe it. Funny that you should mention this. I created a Twitter account a few days before the election just to harvest bitter GOP tears, and was not disappointed. I put every right wing mofo I could find on there and it was glorious, although now that the election is over I instantly have no use for Twitter once again. But just looking through some right winger's Twitter page shortly after the election, I saw the guy (some fifth string reject I never even heard of, just wound up on my feed because of @RepublicanTears and #tcot) commenting to some other right winger that he had a whole bunch of people subscribe to his feed right before the election and now they were rapidly dropping off, and he couldn't figure out why anyone would do this.  I did watch Fox News coverage of the election from around the time the PA/WI/MI dominoes began to fall all the way through the concession and victory speeches, and it was really glorious, incredible TV, and I mean that completely unironically. The Rove meltdown over Ohio and the Meghyn Kelly high heel walk down to the nerd box is of course a classic moment in and of itself, but the whole thing was pretty incredible, from the way a funeral pall descended over the whole crew around the halfway point (Cavuto was seriously almost in tears), to the broadcast crew kind of not knowing what to do with themselves from the time of the Rove outburst to the concession speech, to watching people like the mummified corpse of Krauthammer aggressively begin delegitimizing Obama's victory before the guy even began his speech. It was really magical. 
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Damnit, I'd almost lucked up and had Krauthammer escape from my memory. Does he have a show as well or is he just someone that FoxNews rolls out to grant some semblance of legitimacy to whatever horseshit talking point they're harping on at the moment? Either way, I hope someone pushes him into traffic.
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Zwabu posted:Funny that you should mention this. I created a Twitter account a few days before the election just to harvest bitter GOP tears, and was not disappointed. I put every right wing mofo I could find on there and it was glorious, although now that the election is over I instantly have no use for Twitter once again. But just looking through some right winger's Twitter page shortly after the election, I saw the guy (some fifth string reject I never even heard of, just wound up on my feed because of @RepublicanTears and #tcot) commenting to some other right winger that he had a whole bunch of people subscribe to his feed right before the election and now they were rapidly dropping off, and he couldn't figure out why anyone would do this. That was awesome, and I just want to thank you, I got a lot of fun out of your effort there. I appreciated it greatly.
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Frostwerks posted:Damnit, I'd almost lucked up and had Krauthammer escape from my memory. Does he have a show as well or is he just someone that FoxNews rolls out to grant some semblance of legitimacy to whatever horseshit talking point they're harping on at the moment? Yeah, the latter. He's a classic Reagan Democrat/Kennedy Democrat that turned neo-con during the Clinton Administration. He writes at TNR and the Weekly Standard, two "institutions" that would love to keep the nation in 1985 forever. Given a platform on Fox News Sunday to talk about how we need to continue cold war rollback despite no cold war going on.
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LaserShark posted:O'Reilly has such a weird relationship with NPR. I feel that if you call the leaders of an organization 'Nazis', you shouldn't be allowed to go on their show the next week to hawk your latest book. Reminds me of Rush Limbaugh cheerfully accepting the ACLU's assistance in his court case, then returning to trashing them.
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Frostwerks posted:Damnit, I'd almost lucked up and had Krauthammer escape from my memory. Does he have a show as well or is he just someone that FoxNews rolls out to grant some semblance of legitimacy to whatever horseshit talking point they're harping on at the moment? Charlie the K? I'm pretty sure he just grouches in a Washington Post column and makes money on speaking fees. He must be almost 800 years old now, so that probably fills his schedule.
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Nessus posted:Strange, one would think that the minerals would remain there and waiting for other sources to be depleted would increase the price. Of course the real point, I'm sure, is she wants more monies, but. Not loving surprising at all considering her entire wealth is built off this huge abortion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Blue_Asbestos . Fun fact: ABA's solution to facing huge payouts from poor bastards they had poisoned was to tie them up in court until they died because a payout to the family was considerably lower than to an actual sufferer. The richest woman in the world, whose entire fortune is built on the death of the filthy proles because the literally did not give a poo poo, wants to run the worlds media... Surprise, surprise. T.Worth fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Nov 17, 2012 |
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I'm dragging this from the election thread, but Hannity's back to Swifboating John Kerry again. This. This right here is what angers me so much about these people. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/15/hannity-hosts-dishonest-swift-boat-veterans-fou/191419
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm dragging this from the election thread, but Hannity's back to Swifboating John Kerry again. This. This right here is what angers me so much about these people. The right is like a has-been band that is stuck playing their songs from the 80's, except now they're playing at county fairs and weddings instead of giant arenas.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm dragging this from the election thread, but Hannity's back to Swifboating John Kerry again. This. This right here is what angers me so much about these people. "Hey guys, remember that one election when we just lied and our base believed a decorated war hero wasnt because we said 'nu-uh', that was grand." gently caress the SBVT, gently caress them all.
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Bombadilillo posted:"Hey guys, remember that one election when we just lied and our base believed a decorated war hero wasnt because we said 'nu-uh', that was grand."
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VideoTapir posted:Fox employee says what everyone was thinking. To be fair, Megyn Kelly is a very attractive woman. e: If only she wasn't being used as a titty smoke screen...
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VideoTapir posted:Fox employee says what everyone was thinking. I wonder if they also will echo what their boss was thinking here. 
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I wonder if they also will echo what their boss was thinking here. There's a statement to be made here equivocating "racists blacks all vote for Obama!" and "Why won't all jews support Israel!", but I'm not smart enough to make it.
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Nimmy posted:Yeah, the latter. He's a classic Reagan Democrat/Kennedy Democrat that turned neo-con during the Clinton Administration. He writes at TNR and the Weekly Standard, two "institutions" that would love to keep the nation in 1985 forever. Given a platform on Fox News Sunday to talk about how we need to continue cold war rollback despite no cold war going on. Some non-zero percentage of people on this forum have spectacularly more experience in the world and considerably more interesting things to say about that same world than Dr. Frederick Chilton.
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More news about how Rush Limbaugh is dragging radio networks down with him is always welcome, I find! quote:The Rush Limbaugh Show is distributed to 600 radio stations via several radio industry networks. The show is syndicated by privately-held Premiere Networks, which contracts with Cumulus Media, Dial Global, and other networks to secure broad access in as many media markets as possible. It goes on to point out how badly Cumulus is doing, and that the consumer/advertiser backlash to Limbaugh's comments about Sandra Fluke is directly responsible for "approximately one-third of lost revenue". quote:Meanwhile, the movement to hold Limbaugh accountable continues to grow, and in the only recent audience analysis (of streaming audience share) to have been released, Limbaugh has been knocked out of first place, and has seen audience share decrease by nearly fifty percent.
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greatn posted:She didn't really do anything to make Bill OReilly cry though, she teed up softball questions for him to swing at and he failed spectacularly. I just listened to this interview and it's pretty hilarious how softball this interview is, but O'Reilly basically gets progressively more and more hostile for no good reason. The quote that Terry Gross was going to read that prompted O'Reilly to storm off wasn't especially defamatory, it just pointed out Bill's rampant hypocrisy and inability to take criticism as good as he dishes it out.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:More news about how Rush Limbaugh is dragging radio networks down with him is always welcome, I find! 21 billion in debt? And Romney owned part of Clear Channel (I think someone earlier mentioned this)? Did Romney's financial guys buy Clear Channel, leverage it to the hilt, and then dump it for the bad debt that it is? Because I want it to be true.
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VanSandman posted:21 billion in debt? And Romney owned part of Clear Channel (I think someone earlier mentioned this)? Did Romney's financial guys buy Clear Channel, leverage it to the hilt, and then dump it for the bad debt that it is? Close; Bain Capital (yes, that Bain Capital) owns Clear Channel; they bought it back in 2006. And it's very likely that they will end up doing to Clear Channel what they've done to other companies they've owned. 
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Sydney Bottocks posted:S.E. Cupp may be my current most despised conservative pundit (that I still have googly-eyes over at times I love how her entire gimmick is that she's a young female atheist who just happens to agree with everything old religious conservative dudes say. The first time I ever saw her she was selling one of her books on the Bill Maher show and as far as I could tell the entire premise was "As a young female atheist I believe that while Christian male conservatives are the most oppressed people on earth." It is a really clever way to jump on the conservative media gravy train: say you're an atheist, regurgitate talking points, then watch the profits roll in. That's probably the reason she sounds so half-hearted to you too. It's really obvious that she doesn't believe any of this poo poo.
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CatCannons posted:Romney's Bain Capital Is Sending a Bunch of High-Tech Jobs to China on the Day Before the Election A friend on FB claimed that Romney would have been a better president because he was a CEO of a company that "employed millions". I didn't have the heart to tell them that those supposed "millions" were probably employed in China. Blastedhellscape posted:I love how her entire gimmick is that she's a young female atheist who just happens to agree with everything old religious conservative dudes say. The first time I ever saw her she was selling one of her books on the Bill Maher show and as far as I could tell the entire premise was "As a young female atheist I believe that while Christian male conservatives are the most oppressed people on earth." She was even more shameless on her Fox News appearances, when there were apparently entire segments devoted to her showing off her legs (which are, to be fair, very nice indeed). I guess I can't really blame her, to be honest; she knows there's a buck to be made by exploiting both her good looks and the gullibility of most people calling themselves "conservatives". It's entirely cynical and calculating, of course, but if she's getting paid, then more power to her, I guess.
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Blastedhellscape posted:It is a really clever way to jump on the conservative media gravy train: say you're an atheist, regurgitate talking points, then watch the profits roll in. That's probably the reason she sounds so half-hearted to you too. It's really obvious that she doesn't believe any of this poo poo. I think SE Cupp believes her own poo poo as much as her cognitive dissonance allows. She's the poster child of young conservatives who are too educated to take the Bible literally, too socially conscious to believe gays are out to destroy America, and too up her own rear end privileged to believe that her side could possibly be working to subvert the rights of women and minorities, because look at me! I'm a woman. But like all young conservatives she can't let go of the Christianist Republican safety blankey she was raised with, so you end up with the obnoxious strain of false equivalence and well poisoning and topic derailment which are all Cupp's forte. She is the ultimate concern troll. A great example of this is her latest appearance on Bill Mahr's show, where she takes a minute to 'splain gay activism to Andrew Sullivan of all people. She is so damned aggravating. Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Nov 19, 2012 |
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Blastedhellscape posted:I love how her entire gimmick is that she's a young female atheist who just happens to agree with everything old religious conservative dudes say. The first time I ever saw her she was selling one of her books on the Bill Maher show and as far as I could tell the entire premise was "As a young female atheist I believe that while Christian male conservatives are the most oppressed people on earth." See also: just about every nonwhite right wing media person, including the elected ones like LTC ALLEN WEST. See, if you're the black right winger, then you can get on Fox and talk about how blacks love being enslaved on the Democrat Plantation and only be about 90 percent the rear end in a top hat Rush Limbaugh would be saying the same thing. Likewise if you're the Indian right winger like D'Souza you can talk about how Barack Obama is the anti-colonial President. If you are the Asian right winger like Malkin, you can talk about how internment of the Japanese was really great. If you happen to be female like noted Undead Harpy Ann Coulter, you can talk about how women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Gravy for everyone!
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What the hell kind of name is S.E. Cupp? I can't see it without thinking "sippy cup"
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Typical Pubbie posted:I think SE Cupp believes her own poo poo as much as her cognitive dissonance allows. She's the poster child of young conservatives who are too educated to take the Bible literally, too socially conscious to believe gays are out to destroy America, and too up her own rear end privileged to believe that her side could possibly be working to subvert the rights of women and minorities, because look at me! I'm a woman. But like all young conservatives she can't let go of the Christianist Republican safety blankey she was raised with, so you end up with the obnoxious strain of false equivalence and well poisoning and topic derailment which are all Cupp's forte. She is the ultimate concern troll. She's just riding the gravy train like most of them. Most of conservatism is just jumping through hoops explaining why people voting against their own economic interests because of bigotry and ignorance are actually the noble common man who values our traditions and loves his country. This is a good job that pays well if you can get it, but it's complete bullshit. Even more all of the smart ones with the money know it's utter bullshit of the highest level, they're just lying out their rear end for a check. Cupp is so utterly vapid and malicious in how she speaks she's not even trying to hide it. It's bullshit, she knows it, you know it, and she's saying it in a way that you know she think it's a pile of bullshit. When you come out and say that you're an athiest and christians are stupid but more American's should be religious because religious people love America and vote for the right party, you aren't even trying anymore.
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SilentD posted:Cupp is so utterly vapid and malicious in how she speaks she's not even trying to hide it. It's bullshit, she knows it, you know it, and she's saying it in a way that you know she think it's a pile of bullshit. When you come out and say that you're an athiest and christians are stupid but more American's should be religious because religious people love America and vote for the right party, you aren't even trying anymore.
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All Of The Dicks posted:What the hell kind of name is S.E. Cupp? I can't see it without thinking "sippy cup" When I first heard her name on whateverthefuckshow she appears on on MSNBC I thought she said "I'm a c-cup" instead of "I'm S.E. Cupp." I wasn't even looking at the screen at the time and I had to stop what I was doing to figure out if I heard correctly. Say it out loud, it's phonetically identical (at least to me).
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