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Inferior Third Season posted:You definitely don't need to even be in college. A field trip to the natural history museum during elementary school should suffice for anyone that doesn't have the burden of ultra-religious parents. Even Rick Santorum is for teaching Evolution. Even Santorum. God drat how is this an issue still?
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It's so awesome that the GOP is so batshit that candidates have to hedge their answers on evolution.
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Nov 19, 2012 22:40
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Joementum posted:And actually, his real name is Joe Biden. "Beau" is a nickname given to distinguish him from his father. He's an impressive dude. He's a popular and effective attorney general, served in Iraq, great on wall street issues. ect...
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Nov 19, 2012 22:42
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Reverse Arab posted:Even Rick Santorum is for teaching Evolution. Even Santorum. God drat how is this an issue still? ...he is? Where did you see this? I find it really hard to believe, given how loving crazy he is.
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Nov 19, 2012 22:57
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mcmagic posted:He's an impressive dude. He's a popular and effective attorney general, served in Iraq, great on wall street issues. ect... Yeah but what kind of car does he drive?
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Nov 19, 2012 22:59
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Sir Tonk posted:Yeah but what kind of car does he drive? What's even more important is what magazines you'll find in the seat pockets.
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Alter Ego posted:...he is? Where did you see this? I find it really hard to believe, given how loving crazy he is. He left the board of a Christian law group after it took a suit defending intelligent design in schools (Source). Rereading the controversy around that, it looks more like it was a political move than anything, but regardless. Even Rick Santorum wasn't willing to force schools to teach Intelligent Design.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:10
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mcmagic posted:He's an impressive dude. He's a popular and effective attorney general, served in Iraq, great on wall street issues. ect... And he had a mild stroke in 2010, at age forty-one. That's a bit concerning.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:12
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mcmagic posted:He's an impressive dude. He's a popular and effective attorney general, served in Iraq, great on wall street issues. ect... So the obvious question is what sex scandal will break while he's at the Iowa State Fair.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:33
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Badger of Basra posted:I've heard Kamala Harris mentioned by some people as a possible nominee. She doesn't seem too bad to me but she would face a lot of problems with name recognition among non-Californians and people who didn't pay attention to the settlement last year. Kamala Harris won't be ready for some time. She only got elected AG two years ago, and before that she was just the District Attorney for San Francisco. She's still building up name recognition in California. I'd expect her to run for governor in 2014 or 2018 though, depending on whether Brown goes for reelection. Ammat The Ankh fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Nov 19, 2012 |
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Nov 19, 2012 23:34
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Alter Ego posted:...he is? Where did you see this? I find it really hard to believe, given how loving crazy he is.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:41
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tetrapyloctomy posted:And he had a mild stroke in 2010, at age forty-one. That's a bit concerning.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:42
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tetrapyloctomy posted:And he had a mild stroke in 2010, at age forty-one. That's a bit concerning. That's never been a barrier before. If we can have presidents who are morbidly obese, wheelchair bound, and MS sufferers... (Oh, like you wouldn't vote for Martin Sheen for president. I'd vote for him for anything he asked.) I doubt it would be a major stumbling block. Health concerns didn't stop McCain from trying, and it wouldn't have been a great factor had he not picked Palin.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:45
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ufarn posted:Clinton sounds like Cheney light judging by what he's gone through, and people seem inclined to abrogate term limits, if it means getting him back. The revisionist history of Bill Clinton's term is getting hard to take.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:45
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mcmagic posted:The revisionist history of Bill Clinton's term is getting hard to take. Sometimes, people have no loving clue even when it's going on, much less when it's in the past. I'm not really comfortable with the idolatry of Biden either, and he's not been the best friend of people who hate the Hollywood lobby, if I recall correctly.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:48
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Reverse Arab posted:Even Rick Santorum is for teaching Evolution. Even Santorum. God drat how is this an issue still? Not exactly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLo_jfru8jA
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Nov 19, 2012 23:49
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Teddybear posted:That's never been a barrier before. If we can have presidents who are morbidly obese, wheelchair bound, and MS sufferers... I don't know about FDR's pre-POTUS life, but my understanding is that the Secret Service was very careful and tried to make it almost impossible to take and publish a photograph of FDR in a wheelchair.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:56
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We have a black President. We very nearly had a Mormon President and a woman President. Those barriers are significantly higher than health concerns unless they truly are drastic. It'll be a media obsession if Chris Christie or Joe Biden run, but it won't come close to being a significant factor in voters' decision, though I think both will have trouble with just the physical exertion of the campaign.
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notthegoatseguy posted:I don't know about FDR's pre-POTUS life, but my understanding is that the Secret Service was very careful and tried to make it almost impossible to take and publish a photograph of FDR in a wheelchair. Valid point, valid point. Back then you probably could get away with hiding physical disability much more easily than today. Still, though, I don't think it'd be a major obstacle to election nowadays; one of the country's greatest heroes, Medal of Honor recipient and currently person most disserviced by the Natural Born Citizen requirement Sen. Daniel Inouye got shredded by a grenade, and he's been Senator from Hawaii since essentially Hawaii was given senators. I mean, that might be different, because it's a war wound; Tammy Duckworth is a similar situation. I doubt though that anyone would be dumb enough or callous enough to make it a campaign issue.
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Nov 20, 2012 00:03
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Teddybear posted:person most disserviced by the Natural Born Citizen requirement Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't he satisfy the Natural-Born requirement since he was born in Hawaii, even before it was a state? (obviously though he's too old to be even considered for a presidential run).
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Teddybear posted:That's never been a barrier before. If we can have presidents who are morbidly obese, wheelchair bound, and MS sufferers...
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Nov 20, 2012 00:14
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't he satisfy the Natural-Born requirement since he was born in Hawaii, even before it was a state? (obviously though he's too old to be even considered for a presidential run).
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Nov 20, 2012 00:23
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If he was a citizen at the time of his birth (as a result of being born in the US or born to US citizen parents), then he is a natural born citizen. I think that Hawaiians during the period where it was a Territory were citizens (as Puerto Ricans are today), but I'm not certain of that.
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Nov 20, 2012 00:25
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Joementum posted:If he was a citizen at the time of his birth (as a result of being born in the US or born to US citizen parents), then he is a natural born citizen. I think that Hawaiians during the period where it was a Territory were citizens (as Puerto Ricans are today), but I'm not certain of that.
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Joementum posted:We have a black President. We very nearly had a Mormon President and a woman President. Those barriers are significantly higher than health concerns unless they truly are drastic. It'll be a media obsession if Chris Christie or Joe Biden run, but it won't come close to being a significant factor in voters' decision, though I think both will have trouble with just the physical exertion of the campaign.
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Nov 20, 2012 00:50
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mcmagic posted:The revisionist history of Bill Clinton's term is getting hard to take.
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Joementum posted:We have a black President. We very nearly had a Mormon President and a woman President. Those barriers are significantly higher than health concerns unless they truly are drastic. It'll be a media obsession if Chris Christie or Joe Biden run, but it won't come close to being a significant factor in voters' decision, though I think both will have trouble with just the physical exertion of the campaign. Why Joe Biden? Just his age? Reagan was old when he took office.
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Nov 20, 2012 01:27
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mcmagic posted:Reagan was old when he took office. This is a really good argument for not electing someone that old.
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Nov 20, 2012 01:30
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mcmagic posted:Why Joe Biden? Just his age? Reagan was old when he took office. Reagan was effectively senile upon taking office, I have no idea what the gently caress all of you alive and voting in the 80s were smoking.
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Nov 20, 2012 01:36
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Nonsense posted:Reagan was effectively senile upon taking office, I have no idea what the gently caress all of you alive and voting in the 80s were smoking. Americans loving love a novelty vote, man. How do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, and Dead Mel Carnahan won their elections?
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Nov 20, 2012 01:40
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Joementum posted:This is a really good argument for not electing someone that old. It's an argument that the people who would make his age an issue won't have a leg to stand on.
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Nov 20, 2012 01:43
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Nonsense posted:Reagan was effectively senile upon taking office, I have no idea what the gently caress all of you alive and voting in the 80s were smoking. Jimmy Carter called Americans a bunch of entitled assholes, so they decided to teach him! 
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Jerusalem posted:Jimmy Carter called Americans a bunch of entitled assholes, so they decided to teach him! I came to realize that the Crisis of Confidence speech was the last time a sitting American President was actually completely honest with the American People. That's kinda sad.
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Nov 20, 2012 03:13
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Rubio has now walked back some of his statements from that GQ interview.
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Nov 20, 2012 04:05
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I'm glad Pitbull is Republican, because it'll save a lot of me gagging when the next Democratic Latino president starts being hip and cool with the Latin Music crowd and completely ignores his rear end.
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redmercer posted:Americans loving love a novelty vote, man. How do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, and Dead Mel Carnahan won their elections? Stupidly crowded recall field, Norm Coleman, and John Ashcroft.
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Nov 20, 2012 04:39
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Teddybear posted:
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Nonsense posted:I'm glad Pitbull is Republican, because it'll save a lot of me gagging when the next Democratic Latino president starts being hip and cool with the Latin Music crowd and completely ignores his rear end. http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/11/pit_bull_joining_barack_obama.php I think he might just be a front runner
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The Collector posted:http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/11/pit_bull_joining_barack_obama.php Man celebrities changing their mind every four years. Deport all of Hollywood and save America! edit: Remember Tim Pawlenty's youtube video announcing his candidacy?
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Nonsense posted:
I vaguely remember motocross being involved.
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