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Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.
Popped a 2010 KBS to drink while prepping this morning.

Still without a doubt the most perfect beer I've ever tasted.

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funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Podima posted:


In beer news: Brown Shugga is dangerous to drink unawares, that stuff does NOT taste like its ABV. I've got some Celebration in the fridge ready to go for today, but out of curiosty, what style of beer would goons recommend pairing with Thanksgiving meals?

Saisons. Cellar Door would be good since it's got that nice little dose of sage, but I've got a couple bottles of Saison Rue and Broederlijke Liefke on deck


Midorka posted:

Would you consider a trade for it? I have a Founders Better Half, or a 2012 Double DBA, Sucaba, or Parabola up for trade. I also have a 3 Fonteinen Schaerbeekse Kriek I would do a 1 for 1 trade.

Thanks for your response though, I figured the trade wasn't lopsided, I just assumed that people in the area are putting huge value on it because there probably isn't much they get that other states with rare beers get.

It's not that we don't have trade bait or distribution here is lovely- it's that we finally have something that you can only get from us. People in Richmond are pretty fierce in their hometown pride, too. I'd be down for a Parabola or similar, but probably not gonna open any new trades for a minute. Give me a shout in a couple weeks at smrandolph at gmail to remind me.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

I totally killed a Fonteinen gueuze tonight, too. Stopped by the Binny's in Elmwood Park tonight and they had a half case on the shelf. Grabbed two. Opened one... Excellent. Not too learned in the style, but probably the best I've had.

Followed that up with a Vivant Escoffier (not digging this at all; too sweet) and a Ten Fidy (still great).

I think 3F is my favourite gueuze actually, though I haven't had Cantillon's yet. Honestly, I don't imagine how Cantillon's could be better, but who knows.

I kinda share your opinion on Escoffier. It's decent but I won't go out of my way to get it again. Maybe some age will help with the sweetness as it's can-conditioned with brett.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
Any thoughts about Brux (Russian River + Sierra Nevada collab — an American wild ale)?

Just grabbed a bottle because gently caress it, it's Thanksgiving.

SketchyNick
Oct 15, 2005

The SARS Volta posted:

Any thoughts about Brux (Russian River + Sierra Nevada collab — an American wild ale)?

Just grabbed a bottle because gently caress it, it's Thanksgiving.

Should be bretty enough. I know people were not happy with the brett pressence because it wasnt aged but it's been long enough that it will be good.

saints gambit
Apr 8, 2004
a donut with no holes is a danish
I was reviewing Het Anker Gouden Carolus Cuvee Van Der Keizer Blauw 2012 today, and that is a bottle that needs at least two years. The elements that make it a great beer are all there, but they just don't hang together after 8 months. Just syrupy and caramel sweet without nuance.

SnowDog
Oct 26, 2004
re: Jack's Abby

TenaciousTomato posted:

After this you need to try their Oktoberfest and Hoponius Union. So. loving. good.

Ok, their Oktoberfest (Copper Legend) was a big hit at my Thanksgiving dinner. Glad I have a couple left in the fridge for the weekend.

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

I Brown Shugga supposed to be a dark DIPA or a really hoppy brown ale? Not being a fan of very hoppy beers, I am kind of disappointed. It's got such a high ABV, though, that I think sticking with it for a couple will make it more enjoyable.

The hops just caught me by surprise. I expected a syrupy, molasses flavored beer.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!

Captain Shortbus posted:

I Brown Shugga supposed to be a dark DIPA or a really hoppy brown ale? Not being a fan of very hoppy beers, I am kind of disappointed. It's got such a high ABV, though, that I think sticking with it for a couple will make it more enjoyable.

The hops just caught me by surprise. I expected a syrupy, molasses flavored beer.

Brown Shugga was actually made by them messing up their Gnarleywine recipe, so it's like a hopped up barleywine.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Cracked a 2012 Abyss last night because I am in AZ and I can't get this stuff at home, nor do I want to check baggage to fly with it or pay to ship it. That said, it was a bit boozy and sharp but overall very, very good. I am sure it would improve with six months on it, but "fresh" it was a fantastic beer.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

That reminds me that I should probably buy some Abyss tomorrow; they'll make fine xmas presents to my friends back in Philly in a bit.

Just spent all day working/skiing/cooking/cleaning and I think I deserve to finish up the two Jubel Ales in the fridge as a reward. Whew. Hooray Bend.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Today I cooked a full Thanksgiving meal. Of course I was drinking the whole time...

Started off with a Tilquin Gueuze. Once football started, we had a Cigar City Moat Water which was every bit as delicious as I thought it would be. With dinner had Bruery Fruet, and now a Terrapin MooHoo with dessert. Overall, not a bad day of beer.

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

Kudosx posted:

Brown Shugga was actually made by them messing up their Gnarleywine recipe, so it's like a hopped up barleywine.

I've never had a barleywine, so I didn't know what to expect. Are they traditionally very hoppy? If so, I'll just avoid them in the future.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Captain Shortbus posted:

I've never had a barleywine, so I didn't know what to expect. Are they traditionally very hoppy? If so, I'll just avoid them in the future.

American, yes. British, no.

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
There are two different styles of barleywines - American barleywines, which are hoppier, and English barleywines, which are smoother/less bitter. Brown Shugga is the former, but there are many great examples of the latter that you should definitely try out.

Check this list out to get an idea of what you might be able to find in your area: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/152 I know that Weyerbacher is readily available here, and Blithering Idiot is not terrible. Sucaba is just GREAT though, if you see that I highly recommend snagging it.

e:f;b

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

I think I might know a guy I have a future trade with who just stumbled into some Sucaba that might be able to oblige....

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Podima posted:

There are two different styles of barleywines - American barleywines, which are hoppier, and English barleywines, which are smoother/less bitter. Brown Shugga is the former, but there are many great examples of the latter that you should definitely try out.

Check this list out to get an idea of what you might be able to find in your area: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/152 I know that Weyerbacher is readily available here, and Blithering Idiot is not terrible. Sucaba is just GREAT though, if you see that I highly recommend snagging it.

e:f;b

Well, you provided a lot more detail. While they're not technically identical, an English Old Ale might be up your alley (though in a some cases they have a little bit of brett in them too).

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

Thanks to both of you. Seems the beer world is never deficient of intricacies. The Brown Shugga got easier to drink the more I had (ABV?) but the exploration is part of the fun. Glad to try new stuff/styles.

The fun stuff is finding something like Kalamazoo Stout. I hate licorice with a passion. Despise it. Still loved the Kalamazoo, even though I could taste the hint of licorice in it. A well blended flavor goes miles. I just love finding new things to drink. :haw:

Captain Shortbus fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Nov 23, 2012

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!
My Grandma has always said that her favorite beer is Bud Light, but as of recent, I've been having her try local craft beers.

I came to visit her for Thanksgiving, and I bought a 4 pack of Blackout Stout while I was here. I had her try a sip of my Blackout Stout while I was drinking it, and she absolutely loved it. I ended up giving her a bottle, and she drank the whole thing.

I was pretty surprised she liked it, but she loves coffee, and she said she had never realized beer could have a coffee flavor. She currently has a 6 pack of GLBC Christmas Ale, and a 6 pack of Fat Head's Bumbleberry, and I look forward to the day when she starts to purchase coffee stouts! My Grandma has begun to reconsider what her favorite beer is.

Beer is truly awesome.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Kudosx posted:

My Grandma has always said that her favorite beer is Bud Light, but as of recent, I've been having her try local craft beers.

I came to visit her for Thanksgiving, and I bought a 4 pack of Blackout Stout while I was here. I had her try a sip of my Blackout Stout while I was drinking it, and she absolutely loved it. I ended up giving her a bottle, and she drank the whole thing.

I was pretty surprised she liked it, but she loves coffee, and she said she had never realized beer could have a coffee flavor. She currently has a 6 pack of GLBC Christmas Ale, and a 6 pack of Fat Head's Bumbleberry, and I look forward to the day when she starts to purchase coffee stouts! My Grandma has begun to reconsider what her favorite beer is.

Beer is truly awesome.

If you can get Great Lakes, you can probably get Founders, so get your grandma some breakfast stout!

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

Another easy to drink coffee/chocolate stout would be Buffalo Sweat. It's about as fool proof as Young's if you can get it.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

You got a cool grandma :thumbsup:

Jahoodie
Jun 27, 2005
Wooo.... college!

SUPER HASSLER posted:

You got a cool grandma :thumbsup:

My grandma only drinks pink zin.

I brought a 750 of Kane Brewery's Malus, a local brewery's first bottling that was Belgian-style beer made with NJ Apple candied syrup, and had to drink it all myself. My family needs to up their game.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!

crazyfish posted:

If you can get Great Lakes, you can probably get Founders, so get your grandma some breakfast stout!

I'm definitely going to buy her a four pack for Christmas, along with the usual soaps, candles, lotions, and cookbooks. I hope she enjoys it as much as she enjoyed Blackout!

Despite being from Cleveland, yesterday was actually my first time drinking a Blackout Stout, and I'm happy to say it was everything I hoped it to be. It was incredibly smooth and didn't taste like the 9% abv it has. I'm now really looking forward to attending the BA Blackout Stout release in the next few months.

Captain Shortbus posted:

Another easy to drink coffee/chocolate stout would be Buffalo Sweat. It's about as fool proof as Young's if you can get it.

While Tallgrass distributes to OH, all I've ever seen from them is their IPA. I'm going to ask around and see if any of my local shops can order this, it sounds delicious.

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

Well if not, let me know. You get plenty of stuff I can't get at all or easily. I'm always down for trading.

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Shortbus posted:

Thanks to both of you. Seems the beer world is never deficient of intricacies. The Brown Shugga got easier to drink the more I had (ABV?) but the exploration is part of the fun. Glad to try new stuff/styles.

Glad you enjoyed it! I find that when you're drinking hoppy beers, that first initial sip of bitter can really put you off if you're not expecting it and it's what turns a lot of people away from IPAs after being given a taste by a friend/family member. (Also it was probably the ABV for Brown Shugga, that stuff is insidious)

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming
Is it possible to bring beer on a plane? In your suitcase or on board? Given the liquid prohibition?

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
It must be in checked baggage.

edit: And before the discussion about the cargo hold being unpressurized and whatnot even starts, commercial aircraft cargo areas are at the same pressure as the cabin (otherwise this would happen in the event of a pressure change). You cannot have a "depressurized" cargo area and a pressurized passenger compartment. You can, however, have heated and unheated zones of the cargo area. That said, I have flown dozens of times with beer. All I do is put the bottle(s) in a seal-able plastic bag and pack it securely with my clothes in checked baggage.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Nov 23, 2012

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi
I've never had an issue checking beer. The most important thing is making sure it's padded so that the airline people don't break it while tossing it.

On my way home from the Goose Island Black Friday tasting. King Henry and 5 BCBS variations. Vanilla is better than ever, Rare seems boozier than I remember, Bramble has aged really, really well, this year's Coffee is fantastic and Cherry Rye is fantastic, if you can get it. Good times.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

FreelanceSocialist posted:

It must be in checked baggage.

edit: And before the discussion about the cargo hold being unpressurized and whatnot even starts, commercial aircraft cargo areas are at the same pressure as the cabin (otherwise this would happen in the event of a pressure change). You cannot have a "depressurized" cargo area and a pressurized passenger compartment. You can, however, have heated and unheated zones of the cargo area. That said, I have flown dozens of times with beer. All I do is put the bottle(s) in a seal-able plastic bag and pack it securely with my clothes in checked baggage.

Thanks!

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Seconding the suggestion that it be packed and padded as if the suitcase will be thrown across the room more than once (because it will).

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
I've seen them just let all the bags start running off the conveyor taking them out of the cargo bay, and in the course of throwing them on to the trailer, completely clear the stack of bags across to the other side of the trailer.

The inner conveyances that get your bag to the claim area could be a series of industrial smashers and probably be gentler on the bags than loading/unloading from the bay.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

On my way home from the Goose Island Black Friday tasting. King Henry and 5 BCBS variations. Vanilla is better than ever, Rare seems boozier than I remember, Bramble has aged really, really well, this year's Coffee is fantastic and Cherry Rye is fantastic, if you can get it. Good times.

Not that it matters to anyone but me, but here are my opinions from the same tasting:

Vanilla: This was, and is, still far and away the best flavoured BCBS variant. I can't imagine how overpowering the vanilla was fresh, but cellared it's still quite potent and compliments the flavours quite well. This is dessert in a glass, and worth every penny you'll pay for it.

Cherry Rye: I can't say I was disappointed by this, but it's not going to be worth the insane chase to land one of these. When GI's biggest account on planet Earth gets one case, you know it's going to be hard to land. I don't think it's worth killing yourself over, but if you like cherry stouts it'll be hard to pass this one up. Would be really interested to hear from someone who's had both GI and Bell's BA cherry stouts.

Coffee 2012: I guess I don't like coffee stouts as much as I thought. I liked 2011 better - the coffee was too strong right now. It's understandable because it's meant for long aging, but it's too much fresh. I'll probably like this a lot in 6-8 months.

Bramble: I'm of the minority that liked bramble upon release, but holy gently caress is it better now. I can't even really describe how or why. I'd just advise that if you're sitting on one, drink it in the next couple months - not that it can't age longer, but that it's very very good right now.

King Henry: This is every bit as good as I remembered from June. I'd say if you have a bottle, drink it now rather than later - I seriously cannot imagine KH getting any better than it is now.

Rare: This is the pinnacle of bourbon barrel stouts. I'm honestly going to say I would rather drink King Henry most of the time, but there's a reason this beer has so much acclaim. The bottle I picked up in the purchase raffle this morning will be saved until my 30th birthday in a year and a half, and I can't imagine it any other way.

crazyfish fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Nov 24, 2012

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
If you're like me and work in an office that goes through a lot of printer ink cartridges, try and collect some of the protective bubble-things they come in:



Good for transporting bombers in luggage. I've never had one break on me.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

When my wife and I came back from France a couple years ago with some bottles of wine, we didn't have any fancy bubble wrap carriers, so what I did was take a pair of socks and put each bottle in a couple layers of said socks, put the sock-layered bottles in a suitcase, and checked the suitcase. You could have thrown the suitcase down the stairs and it would have been fine, so if you're in a pinch, substitute socks for bubble wrap.

Sublimer
Sep 20, 2007
get yo' game up


I've traveled with beer in my checked luggage (Duffel bag) plenty of times without a hitch. Here are some suggestions:

Put beers inside a sock for a little extra padding.

Obviously make sure everything is wrapped up in an article of clothing. Bottles clanking together is bad.

If you take an extra pair of shoes, a 12 oz bottle will fit nicely and securely in each shoe.

Some people don't like to tape the caps with electrical tape, but I do it. I definitely recommend it if you are transporting corked beers.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi
Rare is my wedding beer. Hopefully that means not waiting too long to open my last bottle.

Also, I'm drunk for the second time today. First on variations of the best beer ever. Now on Strohs, the best cheap beer ever. (And a Black Butte XXIV)

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

I had some Santa Fe Java Imperial Stout tonight. It's very coffee forward. Almost overpowering, but a decent beer. Also had a year old Boulevard Chocolate Ale. It doesn't age well.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


The SARS Volta posted:

If you're like me and work in an office that goes through a lot of printer ink cartridges, try and collect some of the protective bubble-things they come in:



Good for transporting bombers in luggage. I've never had one break on me.

Holy poo poo. I never would have thought of that and it's brilliant. Thank you.

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Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!
I drank a bottle of 2011 Pepe Nero tonight, and it was my first time trying. I immediately regretted not drinking it side by side a 2012, just because I enjoyed it so much. I'm wondering how different the bottle I drank tonight was vs a fresh bottle.

I haven't drank many Saisons, but this was by far my favorite. It was so incredibly smooth, and the peppercorns gave it a delicious twist. This was my first dark saison, does anyone else know of any others?

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