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DaveWoo posted:Here's a question: if Jones has perfect recall, why does she keep a photo album? Because Jones is much more emotional than she believes herself to be.
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Nov 21, 2012 20:27
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Dodgeball posted:She can't be marked, so things can't stick to her? (makeup, hair products, etc.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism
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Nov 21, 2012 21:16
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Would she care enough to utilize this technology for her appearance?
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Julio Cesar Fatass posted:Because Jones is much more emotional than she believes herself to be. Or maybe it's because it's expected of her to keep mementos of past experiences, like a normal person would. Similar to how she has some food in her office even though she doesn't eat, it's expected of her. As she said, she's had a long time to observe and mimic human behavior, I wouldn't read too much into the photo album, unless you think that Jones is hungrier than she believes herself to be because she kept candy in her office. Does anyone else get a bit of a Blindsight vibe from Coyote and Jones? Coyote talking about how Human intellect is a disease and Jones being a like a Chinese Room gets me wondering just where this story is going.
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Alternate theory, Jones finds it useful to have a photo album because the people she interacts with do not have perfect recall and haven't existed for the entire history of biology.
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Clearly things can stick to her, she was covered in mud in the bison-wrangling scene. I assume not marked means that you can;t affect her skin, rather than that you can't put things over it.
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Dodgeball posted:Would she care enough to utilize this technology for her appearance? Um..... makeup and hairspray use this "technology".
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ATP_Power posted:I wouldn't read too much into the photo album, unless you think that Jones is hungrier than she believes herself to be because she kept candy in her office. Lies and omissions are a major theme of GC, including the lies the characters tell themselves. Jones either not understanding or misrepresenting her motives would be in line with both her character and the story's themes.
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ATP_Power posted:Does anyone else get a bit of a Blindsight vibe from Coyote and Jones? Coyote talking about how Human intellect is a disease and Jones being a like a Chinese Room gets me wondering just where this story is going. I'm torn, because I loved Blindsight, and I know Tom would be way less depressing than Peter Watts; but I can't decide if less depressing would make Blindsight better or worse.
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God, now I feel so dirty for making Jones/Eglamore innuendo. Sorry, thread. I like finding out that Bismuth and Antimony are in the same chemical group, though. Annie's expressionless facade has always seemed similar to what Jones is like. Thanks, Fatkraken.
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ATP_Power posted:Or maybe it's because it's expected of her to keep mementos of past experiences, like a normal person would. Similar to how she has some food in her office even though she doesn't eat, it's expected of her. As she said, she's had a long time to observe and mimic human behavior, I wouldn't read too much into the photo album, unless you think that Jones is hungrier than she believes herself to be because she kept candy in her office. I went and read that (the author published it under the creative commons license here if anyone wants to read it) when someone mentioned it in the last chapter, and I definitely am. Coyote as Jukka Sarasti is a hell of a scary thought.
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I think that what made blindsight so bleak was the notion that consciousness, everything that we use to distinguish ourselves as human, is nothing more than an evolutionary quirk that we maintained by pure chance and may actually be detrimental. In the Gunnerkrigg universe, that trait is what makes us special, and we are envied for it. Compare how Coyote and Ysengrimm view human creativity versus how the scramblers and vampires view conscious thought. There are similarities, but the GC universe has an inherently more optimistic view of it than Blindsight (thank goodness.)
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Jones is immune to x-ray. QUICK, TO MYTHOLOGY!
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Hmm, we're all made of star stuff right? What if she is the personification of star stuff?
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She is made out of bones!
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Wili posted:She is made out of bones! She is made out of Jones.
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I kind of find myself sympathizing with the viewpoint, expressed earlier, that this chapter was belaboring the point a bit. This is probably because of the update schedule, without which I wouldn't be trying to predict what Jones is all about before she explains it.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Jones is immune to x-ray. QUICK, TO MYTHOLOGY! So her flesh-equivalent is radiopaque. It should still be possible to use ultrasound.
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I was actually just wondering yesterday if Jones could be X-Rayed.
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Jones can't be x-rayed, which is an extension of how opaque her motivations are. This supports the idea that we shouldn't take her descriptions of her inner life at face value.Bongo Bill posted:I kind of find myself sympathizing with the viewpoint, expressed earlier, that this chapter was belaboring the point a bit. This is probably because of the update schedule, without which I wouldn't be trying to predict what Jones is all about before she explains it. This part of the chapter is weaker, but I can't think of a single work where having a character sit down and tell you all about themselves hasn't been at least a little clumsy. Julio Cesar Fatass fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Nov 23, 2012 |
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she can be x-rayed, theres just nothing to see.
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AntimatterSpork posted:she can be x-rayed, theres just nothing to see.  "It's empty space! I never taught the computer to read empty space!"
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"I have no desire to be anything anymore" seems like a pretty key line here. I'm just not sure in what way yet.
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Freudian posted:She is made out of Jones. She's made of UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Jon "Bones" Jones. No wonder she's so tough!
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Harm Barn Gumshoe posted:"I have no desire to be anything anymore" seems like a pretty key line here. I'm just not sure in what way yet. I don't normally nitpick, but she said "I have no desire to be anything more". If it was "anything anymore" that would have changed the implication of that sentence quite considerably considering what she's told us about not having emotions and a general lack of desires. I'm still pretty sure Jones is connected in some way to the seed bismuth.
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Brannock posted:I don't normally nitpick, but she said "I have no desire to be anything more". If it was "anything anymore" that would have changed the implication of that sentence quite considerably considering what she's told us about not having emotions and a general lack of desires. Haha doip. I don't know how I misread that
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Brannock posted:the seed bismuth. Bismuth is a key ingredient in some stomach medications. The mechanisms of its action are poorly understood but it seems to soothe various kinds of stomach upset with greater-than-placebo effectiveness. The court is a Pepto-Bismol factory.
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Cabbit posted:She's made of UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Jon "Bones" Jones. No wonder she's so tough! Which means Coyote is Chael Sonnen. It's all coming together now.
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Wili posted:She is made out of bones! 
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A student posted:Hmm, we're all made of star stuff right? What if she is the personification of star stuff? No that's Carl Sagan
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:No that's Carl Sagan So Jones is the original apple pie?  Tangenting, but drat, even her hair shows up as opaque.
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The question I'd like to know is did Jones have a concept of language before she met other humans? Did she, in fact, invent language?
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Zemyla posted:The question I'd like to know is did Jones have a concept of language before she met other humans? Did she, in fact, invent language? Probably not, since she claimed to have practically no capacity for imagination.
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Why would language even exist if you got nobody to talk to?
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I wonder how many languages Jones knows.
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Urban Space Cowboy posted:Are you saying Jones is a bonehead? No she's Jughead Jones.
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Fister Roboto posted:No she's Jughead Jones. "Hey Jughead, Moose is totally reaming Reggie at the Choklit Shoppe! Wanna go check it out?" "I am indifferent to your great interest in social unrest, Archie."
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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Fister Roboto posted:No she's Jughead Jones. Perhaps her apathy is related to the fact that, due to not eating, she has never experienced her life's true passion: hamburgers.
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