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JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
Yeah, there was some talk of Hussie just rewriting Homestuck into a novel format instead of just publishing the panels with clever author dialogue. Largely because of the increasing dependance on flashes, but also because he repeatedly called Homestuck a "unfinished work" or something like that.

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Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

JT Jag posted:

Yeah, there was some talk of Hussie just rewriting Homestuck into a novel format instead of just publishing the panels with clever author dialogue. Largely because of the increasing dependance on flashes, but also because he repeatedly called Homestuck a "unfinished work" or something like that.

I kind of hope he writes Wizardy Herbert instead.
Sounded like a fun book and like MSPA, only more adaptable.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:

It would be kinda easy actually - you'd just go all House of Leaves on it and get creative with the usual fixed elements of typography/book layout (page numbers, headers, etc). The only thing you'd really have to worry about would be the margins, but it wouldn't cost that much more to print up to them.

Heck, if it's a color book, you can glitch it up by deliberately unaligning the color plates.

Here's an example of a comic cover on which one of the color plates was unaligned with the others. You can see the blueish outline is shifted away from where it should be.



Doing that for all plates result in the printed paper equivalent of a having all the components tumbling around haphazardly.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Cat Mattress posted:

Heck, if it's a color book, you can glitch it up by deliberately unaligning the color plates.

Here's an example of a comic cover on which one of the color plates was unaligned with the others. You can see the blueish outline is shifted away from where it should be.



Doing that for all plates result in the printed paper equivalent of a having all the components tumbling around haphazardly.

That actually looks really cool.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


No Caliborn, stop. Stop breaking MS Paint Adventures.

Also, everybody is going to feel really silly when Caliborn accidentally drops the crowbar on his foot and wipes out his own closed time loop, thus resolving the main conflict by default.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

I wonder how much meta-truth there is in Hussie's dialogue here. For example, he claims to not know why Gamzee made Tavrisprite. Did Hussie do that bit of the story because it amused him and with no plan, at the time, for why that particular bit happened? Just came up with a good reason after the fact?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:

It would be kinda easy actually - you'd just go all House of Leaves on it and get creative with the usual fixed elements of typography/book layout (page numbers, headers, etc). The only thing you'd really have to worry about would be the margins, but it wouldn't cost that much more to print up to them.

The part where Caliborn is hitting the console uses weaker binding glue, so all of those pages start falling out as you read them. :buddy:

Walliard
Dec 29, 2010

Oppan Windfall Style

MyFaceBeHi posted:

I hope the next panel is little sprite Hussie running around putting the site back together!

Obviously whilst Caliborn is shooting him leaving little bullet holes everywhere. :allears:

Shoot the author to win $20!

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Bobulus posted:

I wonder how much meta-truth there is in Hussie's dialogue here. For example, he claims to not know why Gamzee made Tavrisprite. Did Hussie do that bit of the story because it amused him and with no plan, at the time, for why that particular bit happened? Just came up with a good reason after the fact?

I think the in-comic Hussie is more of a narrator and guide to events that are happening. Not the creator/writer of them like the real Hussie.

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

Accursed Walrus posted:

Lots of stills. It really does feel like the books are meant to be supplemental rather than a replacement.

Edit: This is why I'm waiting to see how [S] Cascade turns out.

When you get down to it, Cascade really isn't that "animated". Go watch it and see how much stuff actually moves; by the nature of its creation it is essentially just a bunch of static images sliding around. Off the top of my head the most animated thing I can think of is Jade's arms going all wonky and spinning around as she holds the planets. And uh, I think that'd look better unanimated when you get right down to it.

I don't think it'd really be that hard to translate it, or really many things in the comic, to book form.

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.

nerdbot posted:

Oh no, Strong Bad's computer got a virus aga--oh.

Yea I was gonna say. I hope everyone remembers who did this first :colbert:

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

FLAGRANT STORY ERROR

Adventure over.
Caliborn = Very Yes.

SwimmingSpider
Jan 3, 2008


Jön, jön, jön a vizipók.
Várják már a tólakók.
Ez a kis pók ügyes búvár.
Sok új kaland is még rá vár.
Gosh I'm so excited for the next installment of Ctrl+Alt+Delete!

(That actually looks pretty cool.)

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Jesus that's an unfortunate name.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
A null session is definitely not a joke, and I have no intention of making light of it. And it can be a tough and emotional thing for players to go through, speaking from personal experience. And I know that it's often much harder on the players than on SBURB. However, I also know that it doesn't necessarily turn you into a sad, depressed sack of tears for the rest of the game. People can move past it, and heal.

snucks
Nov 3, 2008

Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

Bobulus posted:

I wonder how much meta-truth there is in Hussie's dialogue here. For example, he claims to not know why Gamzee made Tavrisprite. Did Hussie do that bit of the story because it amused him and with no plan, at the time, for why that particular bit happened? Just came up with a good reason after the fact?
I kind of took it as a nod to Hussie's whole retroactive foreshadowing thing. Having a wildcard character like Gamzee lets him accomplish certain things without a visible motivation as to why, which he can maybe fill in later if he wants to. But I don't think anyone's going to be outraged at the end of Homestuck if it's revealed that Gamzee's actions aren't always perfectly logical.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Ariong posted:

FLAGRANT STORY ERROR

Adventure over.
Caliborn = Very Yes.

Link for the lazy: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail118.html

Other webcomics that have done the "break the layout" thing: Prequel, Unsounded, probably some others I'm forgetting.

Well Manicured Man
Aug 21, 2010

Well Manicured Mort
SBURB OST is finally out guys! I was away from my internet when the initial planning for the album was being done so I couldn't be a part of it, but a ton of my friends and fellow Homestuck fanmusicians, many of whom were on coloUrs and mayhem with me, were, so you should all give it a look-see! Also, one of my fan musician colleagues is planning to play through the entire album on Audiosurf and stream it on Livestream at 8:30 EST.

tinaun
Jun 9, 2011

                  tell me...
I will beat his every score. :colbert:

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Bobulus posted:

Link for the lazy: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail118.html

Other webcomics that have done the "break the layout" thing: Prequel, Unsounded, probably some others I'm forgetting.

There was a promo on Youtube for Wario Land: Shake It that achieved this effect, but it doesn't appear to be up any more, as one of the layout changes in the last four years broke it.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

~

Bongo Bill posted:

There was a promo on Youtube for Wario Land: Shake It that achieved this effect, but it doesn't appear to be up any more, as one of the layout changes in the last four years broke it.

It still exists, it's just not as seamless as it was. http://www.youtube.com/user/wariolandshakeit2008

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Captain Oblivious posted:

We need a :lost: for Homestuck so badly. Now more than ever before.

The update is reminding me of Jack's tendency to hulk out and smash things without even trying to figure out what they do.

Actually there's a lot of things that LOST and Homestuck have in common, probably intentionally on Hussie's part, and I'm sure there's a tumblr out there that analyzes these similarities in exruciating detail.

Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Nov 26, 2012

Rohan Kishibe
Oct 29, 2011

Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.
And then Hussie made me watch as he killed Vriska right in front of me.

Dark Grapefruit
Jun 3, 2006

All cans are welcome and equal in your city, regardless of can content, and whether empty or full.

Bobulus posted:

Link for the lazy: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail118.html

Other webcomics that have done the "break the layout" thing: Prequel, Unsounded, probably some others I'm forgetting.

Starslip Crisis had a broken page like this to represent the characters escaping the timeline. Unfortunately it no longer works properly since the site layout was changed. At the time, the in-panel arrow buttons were clickable.
And of course Kris Straub's older comic Checkerboard Nightmare was built on fourth wall shenanigans.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Wait, who took Earth where now? :stare:

Also Caliborn you could not look less threatening with that piece of candy corn in your mouth. :allears:

Saradiart
Dec 13, 2009

OPENING MY TAI CHI IS ABOUT AS APPEALING AS THE GOATMAN OPENING HIS ANUS
Why does Caliborn have the same denizen as Dirk? I thought that was the Heart denizen.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
That candycorn fang.

I will hug Caliborn with my nuclear arms.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The Candy Corn Vampire rises once again.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Caliborn continues his roll of being the best character.

I don't know what's so entertaining about his petulant, adolescent enthusiasm for loving things up, but after all these flawed and complex players it's almost refreshing to have one of such cosmic narrative importance that just wants to kill things. This is a universe of complex rules and personal journeys and Caliborn just has no time for your puzzle poo poo.

Plus it's always nice when someone gets frustrated at the arbitrary rules sburb operates on.

Desfore
Jun 8, 2011

Confirmed at least one furry on the Smash team
Maaaan.... gently caress you, Hussie. You're making me start to like this green rear end in a top hat. I mean, the porn thing was funny, but not enough. Now he's bringing back the candy corn vampire? He's breaking me!

Line Feed
Sep 7, 2012

Seeds taste better with friends.

Saradiart posted:

Why does Caliborn have the same denizen as Dirk? I thought that was the Heart denizen.

The way I figure it, Yaldabaoth is not actually the Heart denizen at all. On rare occasions a player's normal denizen gets swapped out for Yaldabaoth.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Hopefully this means we'll learn more about the denizens down the road.

Makes sense that he wouldn't get his normal denizen (Hephaestus). After all, where would the forge be?

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


I was just looking at the past few updates, and there's still no way to get from the full page flash to the next page. If you hold tab you can see you can click the ~ mark that was previously over the sound icon, but it doesn't do anything still.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Saradiart posted:

Why does Caliborn have the same denizen as Dirk? I thought that was the Heart denizen.

Because they're both overpowered as gently caress naturally gifted warriors. Dirk's hyper-competent, so he gets the hardmode boss.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Caliborn looks so adorable with his little candy corn tooth :3:

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Man, I hate to admit it, but I was as bad as Caliborn when I was a pre-teen. I'd get a new game that required puzzles, and the first thing I'd do is buy the Brady guide and follow it to the letter to get the optimal path. Never figure out anything for myself or go into any optional areas that didn't have rewards.

It's really the worst kind of person to have playing your game. :(

Arthur Crackpot
Sep 4, 2011

Proceed in a str8 line shaped like a perpetually shifting torus knot until you feel a sense of despair transcending all mortal comprehension, then hang a right at the next octopus, she'll be in the first room on the left
Never stop, Caliborn. Just keep right on being adorable and childish. :allears:


I had a feeling that planet was gonna turn out to be future-Earth. We can probably surmise that it was relocated by Jade at some point, but I wonder what necessitated it?

Well Manicured Man
Aug 21, 2010

Well Manicured Mort

Bobulus posted:

Man, I hate to admit it, but I was as bad as Caliborn when I was a pre-teen. I'd get a new game that required puzzles, and the first thing I'd do is buy the Brady guide and follow it to the letter to get the optimal path. Never figure out anything for myself or go into any optional areas that didn't have rewards.

It's really the worst kind of person to have playing your game. :(

Don't worry, I was like that too. I hated puzzle poo poo and couldn't stand playing Myst even though I was really intrigued by the visual aesthetic and soundtrack.

Rykert
Mar 13, 2010

Rhinoceraptor posted:

Gosh I'm so excited for the next installment of Ctrl+Alt+Delete!

The only time that sentence has been uttered

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Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
Gamzee looks like he might be seriously kicking the bucket this time.

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