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Kilazar posted:I thought the cable that whent into the back was a generic one like the SNES, and the connectors on the end were what mattered. It has been a very long time since I have looked at a ps1 so I could just be mis remembering. Original PSX systems just had RCA (R-W-Y) ports with no proprietary AV-multiout cable... then later revisions adopted the proprietary port. Long story short, buy a PSone.
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fatpat268 posted:I'll be sad when I see all the pictures, but I couldn't really participate this time around as I don't really have the money to spend right now. All that money is going towards an xrgb mini right now. I agree with this completely of everything except that I don't have a retrode and I'm in the middle of a 3DS kick right now which is warding off my oncoming GameCube phase for a little while longer.
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zenintrude posted:Long story short, buy a PSone. I do not advise this. Apart from being hideous little creatures the PSOne used a different set of BIOs than the original units (the same the PS2 used, I think?). Though it's limited to only a few titles there are some games that won't work properly on PSOne systems, like Shadow Tower. The early PS units lacking the proprietary cable slot are prone to overheating and may warp the inner plastics. Some people 'solved' this temporarily by flipping the units upside-down and using gravity to get the disc and lens aligned properly again  . Personally, I'd go with any model made after the proprietary cables were introduced but before the serial port in the back was removed. Chipcards are kind of an antiquated way of playing imports but they're great if you're into that sort of thing. King's Field JP, woo  !They're not too hard to find in good shape. It's a shame it wasn't brought up earlier because I have a few spares. Without cables the little beggars can be found for like $5 locally.
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zenintrude posted:Original PSX systems just had RCA (R-W-Y) ports with no proprietary AV-multiout cable... then later revisions adopted the proprietary port. I have one of the original PSX systems (the ones with RCA jacks and are supposed to be for "audiophiles" or whatever). It has BOTH composite/RCA jacks AND the proprietary AV multiout. It can do s-video just fine. SassyRobot posted:I do not advise this. Apart from being hideous little creatures the PSOne used a different set of BIOs than the original units (the same the PS2 used, I think?). Though it's limited to only a few titles there are some games that won't work properly on PSOne systems, like Shadow Tower. That's amazing. I never knew that. I just love the look of the PSone, plus the optional screen. How the hell did they release it when certain games wouldn't work on it? Better yet, why wouldn't certain games work on it? In all honesty, a launch 60GB US PS3 is the absolute best for PS1 games. You can mod it to run all your games from a hard drive, plus it does a very good job upscaling. The original PSone will not output over component. S-video is the best you will get.
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SassyRobot posted:I do not advise this. Apart from being hideous little creatures the PSOne used a different set of BIOs than the original units (the same the PS2 used, I think?). Though it's limited to only a few titles there are some games that won't work properly on PSOne systems, like Shadow Tower. The interest was just sparked when I was digging through my craigslist and saw that they are dirt cheap to get. I don't need one right now, just gathering information for future reference when I decide to buy one. I have a ps/2, but I was never happy with the emulation output of my ps/1 games. So it's not a NEEED. Just a kind of would like to have at some point. The GBPlayer was a neeeed. Because I will die if I don't get one you see.. Literally die! Also, check your email! If you can get your address emailed to my work email, I can send out your pro wrestling today  *edit* and yes, I am totally abusing my companies mail room. Kilazar fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Nov 27, 2012 |
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I was going to straight-up suggest getting a PS2 and component cables. What exactly was it about the PS1 emulation that you didn't like? I like it a ton - especially over component with the smoothing on.
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Antillese posted:I was going to straight-up suggest getting a PS2 and component cables. What exactly was it about the PS1 emulation that you didn't like? I like it a ton - especially over component with the smoothing on. I was going to suggest this (or heck, a PS3) because it kind of boggles my mind that anyone would use a dedicated PSX at this point... but they asked for PSX suggestions and here we are. Miyamotos RGB NES posted:I have one of the original PSX systems (the ones with RCA jacks and are supposed to be for "audiophiles" or whatever). It has BOTH composite/RCA jacks AND the proprietary AV multiout. It can do s-video just fine. So it did, my mind is going... 
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Miyamotos RGB NES posted:In all honesty, a launch 60GB US PS3 is the absolute best for PS1 games. You can mod it to run all your games from a hard drive, plus it does a very good job upscaling. I didn't know you could modify PS3s to play PS1 games from the hard drive though. I'll need to look into that.
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Antillese posted:I was going to straight-up suggest getting a PS2 and component cables. What exactly was it about the PS1 emulation that you didn't like? I like it a ton - especially over component with the smoothing on. Side by side of my FF9 (back in the day when I had a ps2 and a ps1) The ps2 made everything all jaggedy. I know, I know, the ps1 was not exactly the best when it comes to smooth polygons. But the output of the ps2 was noticeably worse. When I first got my ps/2 and played FF9 (pre side by side) it always looked "off" and for a long time I could not put my finger on it. And then I had the chance with the help of a friend who had the same kind of tv, to do the side by side. It could have been the model of ps/2 I had *shrugs*. Was there an emulation update to the chipset at anytime on them? *edit* And I did test with the smoothing on. Honestly I don't remember the smoothing ever actually making a noticeable difference. This was all over s-video at the time. Kilazar fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 27, 2012 |
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^^^ Were you connecting them both over the same physical video format? A PS1 hooked up over composite is going to look "smoother" thanks to the NTSC artifacting and bad color separation compared to say, a PS2 hooked up over SVIDEO or anything else. Also, anything that helps to increase color separation and decrease NTSC problems is indeed going to make the PS1 games look super jagged. Because that's how they look. zenintrude posted:So it did, my mind is going... I'm the RFU DC output that nobody ever ever ever used.
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Mogomra posted:I didn't know you could modify PS3s to play PS1 games from the hard drive though. I'll need to look into that. Yeah you need something called a Cobra USB to do it, though. Bonus: it will also play PS2 games from the hard drive. I also noticed the PS2 plays PS1 games weird, but I think it's because of some modchip I have in there. I think it's called an Apple or Magic or something. It was known for making PS1 games (either legit or backups) look very odd; almost like the interlacing fields were reversed or something. It was a known glitch with that chip, I think. You can rip PS2 games to a fat PS2 hard drive, but I don't think there's anyway to run PS1 backups that way. Antillese posted:I'm the RFU DC output that nobody ever ever ever used. I...literally never noticed that somehow. I'm the serial port no one ever used. I'm also the parallel port everyone used for a Gameshark to play backups. Until newer games defeated it somehow.
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Add me to the boat with a game boy player w/o a disc. Goodwill had a bunch of genesis games and a bare gamecube with a game boy player attached. For 19$ I thought it was worth it?
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Wanted to give a heads up of a promotion I found- Just picked up the following haul from JJGames.com. They're local in Denver for me so I get my goodies in like 2 days Free shipping + $20 off orders of $100 or more coupon going on right now: cybermonday20 
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lilcasino posted:Add me to the boat with a game boy player w/o a disc. Goodwill had a bunch of genesis games and a bare gamecube with a game boy player attached. For 19$ I thought it was worth it? I would have made the purchase. But my wife says my buying habits are very suspect. So this can be either an endorsement or a condemnation. Mental Midget posted:Wanted to give a heads up of a promotion I found- Well now, I know where I am going to stop the next time I am up to visit my family! Oh wait, no storefront?
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Just posting to say that my SARGSSee is going to be super loving pleased. You lucky bastard!
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Antillese posted:I'm the RFU DC output that nobody ever ever ever used. The hell you even connect to that, anyway?
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Kilazar posted:I would have made the purchase. But my wife says my buying habits are very suspect. So this can be either an endorsement or a condemnation. Nope, I emailed them to ask exactly that since I live about 10 minutes away, but they only deal through the website.
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Code Jockey posted:The hell you even connect to that, anyway? I spent a few minutes looking it up. It looks like it's a "Sony standard" DC output to some kind of "Sony standard" RF adapter. Edit: Re MM's shopping cart. Is $13 really fair market for Zelda 1 NES? Ugh.
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Antillese posted:I was going to straight-up suggest getting a PS2 and component cables. What exactly was it about the PS1 emulation that you didn't like? I like it a ton - especially over component with the smoothing on. While we're on this subject, I picked up some component cables for my PS2 a while back, and it ended up making everything look like a blurry, jagged mess. I only tried a couple of games (Romancing Saga, Genji) and ended up switching back to composite because it just looked unbelievably awful. Did I get a dud set of cables or something? I wasn't expecting it to look quite as good as it does on my 60GB PS3, but jeez. Any thoughts?
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midge posted:Just posting to say that my SARGSSee is going to be super loving pleased. You lucky bastard! Bro shipping a Killer Instinct arcade cab to my house? I mean that's really goddamn sweet of you but TOTALLY not expected. Panic Restaurant posted:While we're on this subject, I picked up some component cables for my PS2 a while back, and it ended up making everything look like a blurry, jagged mess. I only tried a couple of games (Romancing Saga, Genji) and ended up switching back to composite because it just looked unbelievably awful. Did I get a dud set of cables or something? I wasn't expecting it to look quite as good as it does on my 60GB PS3, but jeez. Any thoughts? There's an option in the PS2 menu to output progressive. Did you mess with that? Also, and I hate to keep harping on this, but launch PS3 (USA and Japan only) systems do a really, really good job upscaling PS2 games. So good in fact that the fan in my launch PS3 sounds like a goddamn helicopter when playing PS1 or PS2 games, but is totally silent when playing PS3 games.
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No model of PS3 has Playstation 1 hardware, and ALL of them are backwards compatible with PSone games. It has always been software emulation. The original 60GB/20GB models have full PS2 hardware emulation, and the 80GB models dropped one of the chips and emulated the other.
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I know that Killer Instinct's arcade port was actually non-Nintendo hardware, but was Cruis'n USA the same deal?
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http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/203257-nes-super-8-project/ + http://universalppu.com/?page_id=10 is gonna be awesome.
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Kreeblah posted:http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/203257-nes-super-8-project/ + http://universalppu.com/?page_id=10 is gonna be awesome. Can you explain this to my non-  brain?
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zenintrude posted:Can you explain this to my non- Looks like he's trying to get RGB out of an NES without relying on finding an arcade board with a good PPU. The other guy is trying to build an NES from scratch incorporating the good sides of both models. Put these together and Hamburglar will end up mortgaging his house.
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Miyamotos RGB NES posted:
I'm not going the ps3 route. I don't even play my xbox360 these days. Plus cost of entry is just too steep for me. Not going to plop 250 to play some old games. If I'm going to do that, the 250 is going to my CIB copy of chrono trigger that I want in my collection. And even that will probably never happen lol. Back when I was testing, I tried all of available options. I could have just had a bad ps/2 since no one else here seems to notice it. Sometime this week, when I get a chance, I'll hook my ps/2 up to my sd tv with FF9. See if it looks ok or not. I have not tested my current ps/2 since getting it.
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Kilazar posted:I'm not going the ps3 route. I don't even play my xbox360 these days. Plus cost of entry is just too steep for me. Not going to plop 250 to play some old games. If I'm going to do that, the 250 is going to my CIB copy of chrono trigger that I want in my collection. And even that will probably never happen lol. Even on an SDTV, if you hook up a PS2 over component cables (I used to do this on my old non-progressive SDTV) and don't think it looks crazy better than composite something is straight up wrong. It could be the cables are shorted, it could be you don't have the TV or PS2 set up correctly (check it's set to YPbBr not RGB - not many monitors actually have RGB), it could be several things. It could be your component port is physically broken on your TV. But if everything is correctly configured and you still prefer a composite connection over SVideo or component, then there is something wrong with your eyes!  Yes, you will notice the aliased edges on polygons and serious texture warping due to the PS1 not having hardware transform, but those were all in the original games. It was just harder to make out these problems in fidelity because consumer video displays of the time were pretty much garbage.
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Island Nation posted:Wiki says no, it looks like the only J-Cart game that made it stateside is Pete Sampras Tennis That sucks, normally we're the ones who miss out. Not even Super Skidmarks? Tyson Tomko posted:Ok thanks for making me spend more money as I had completely forgotten about that game. All I can say is it better have my boyz Walter and Spider in it. Of course! I think it's really just a revamped Micro Machines 2, with more content and the track editor added.
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Nition posted:That sucks, normally we're the ones who miss out. Not even Super Skidmarks? Not even Super Skidmarks. They're all Codemasters games and Europe only except for PST
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Is there a way to repair SNES carts where the case is slightly loose and the board rattles inside? From what I can tell my carts that do this seem to have screws that never fully tighten.
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Kreeblah posted:http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/203257-nes-super-8-project/ + http://universalppu.com/?page_id=10 is gonna be awesome. Welp better sell my extra pc10 ppu and mod kit thats been sitting on my desk for a year. edit: oh god Drakon stop posting everywhereeeeeeeeeeee moron izzard fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Nov 27, 2012 |
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Yup, this certainly is amazing: http://imgur.com/a/2GujB  Now someone make me one of the inside Airship of FFVI.
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Would any retrogoons be interested in a copy of Lunar? Missing the box and the plastic case has a small crack in it but the discs are in like-new condition and it has the manual and cloth map: Also trying to get rid of this thing, it worked last time I tried it which admittedly was a few years ago, I have no idea how much to charge for the B board since i can't guarantee it would work but it looks like the A boards are going for 50 bucks on ebay so we could talk if you're interested in it. 
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Though it's not retro (yet), i spotted this on Wired- The wii mini. http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/11/wii-mini/ It's only coming out in Canada, so it might be a rare/collectable item in a couple of years.
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I'm going to try to wrap up my Santee shopping tonight. I still have to wait for the shipping on everything else I bought to get here before I send it out, though.Harlock posted:Yup, this certainly is amazing: Sorry, you're not my santee.
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Harlock posted:Yup, this certainly is amazing: Wish there was something as cheap as perler beads but looked better for re-creating game sprites.
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There was a booth that was selling this kind of thing at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo. Small ones were $40+. I can't imagine what they would have charged for one on this scale. That's really neat.
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Miyamotos RGB NES posted:There's an option in the PS2 menu to output progressive. Did you mess with that? I thought I did, but it's entirely possible I'm stupid and did not. Based on another post, I'm pretty sure I had it set to RGB and not that Ypr thing. Time to try again! 
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Panic Restaurant posted:I thought I did, but it's entirely possible I'm stupid and did not. Based on another post, I'm pretty sure I had it set to RGB and not that Ypr thing. Time to try again!
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