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Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

IT Guy posted:

What is my best option for fixing a Nexus 7 cracked screen?

Contact Asus and get a quote. Google for "gethuman asus". How badly is it cracked? :(

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


IT Guy posted:

What is my best option for fixing a Nexus 7 cracked screen?

Honestly? Buy a new one. Screen replacement is going to cost upwards of $200 on the thing and you'll have to deal with shipping and arranging repair and everything.

Even if you are willing to do it yourself, new screen+digitizers are going for $150-$170 on ebay. Beware the $50 options as they appear to be the screen only without the digitizer and front glass (which are bonded to the LCD normally.)

Vagrancy
Oct 15, 2005
Master of procrastination

IT Guy posted:

What is my best option for fixing a Nexus 7 cracked screen?

Slipped-and-dropped-on-concrete-cracked, or Left-on-its-own-no-drops-how-in-the-world-mystery-cracked? ASUS will relent and cover the later under warranty if you're firm, but not so much with the former.

If you got it from Google Play it also couldn't hurt to ring the hotline and see if they give you a courtesy swap.

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Maker Of Shoes posted:

4.2.1 is rolling out today, might be that. Fixes for the People December bug and some Bluetooth fixes.
I thougth this but the version showed as 4.2 and the OTA that I got then took me to the regular 4.2 build (JOP40C). It appeared to be an early build of 4.2. It didn't have the new clock, for example.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Michael Scott posted:

How badly is it cracked?

As in shattered.

Asus quote is $170.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
Between shipping headaches and all that nonsense, just buy a new one.

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Also sell it on eBay for parts.

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Between shipping headaches and all that nonsense, just buy a new one.


Tunga posted:

Also sell it on eBay for parts.

This. Grab a decent amount from a "for parts not working" auction and just buy a new one.

Ah, disposable tech.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



If anyone wants an Android tablet at Radio Shack (ANY tablet except Kindle Fires), you'd better get one now or something.

Friend of mine who works at RS says they will not be carrying the 32GB Nexus 7 and they will not lower the price of the 16GB Nexus 7 (it's still at $250 when I went into his store and checked). RS HQ is not allowing it.

They will be focusing on iPads, Apple-based products, and Kindles now.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I cannot for the life of me think of any reason I would by any piece of electronics from Radio Shack.

Soviet Canuckistan
Oct 24, 2010
Could someone with a Nexus 7 running 4.2.1 post the ro.build.fingerprint from their build.prop file? Someone posted the 4.2 one earlier which enabled me to skip the 4.2 update, but now it's pestering me about 4.2.1

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



Internet Explorer posted:

I cannot for the life of me think of any reason I would by any piece of electronics from Radio Shack.

Honestly, the ONLY reason I was going to buy a Nexus 7 from RS was because my friend has a store discount that'd drop the 32GB Nexus 7 to the same price of the 16GB one...even WITH taxes. Otherwise, I'd never buy anything electronic there. :v:

Guess not now.

Soviet Canuckistan posted:

Could someone with a Nexus 7 running 4.2.1 post the ro.build.fingerprint from their build.prop file? Someone posted the 4.2 one earlier which enabled me to skip the 4.2 update, but now it's pestering me about 4.2.1

Doesn't 4.2.1 fix the 4.2 problems that the Nexus 7 had?

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Internet Explorer posted:

I cannot for the life of me think of any reason I would by any piece of electronics from Radio Shack.

How they are still in business is beyond my comprehension. They're down 80% in a year, and have got to be cooking the books Enron-style to not already be shuttering places.

I've gone in there to buy electronics maybe a handful of times this year. Each and every time was to buy a Shack's Gold-Plated Monster Butt Plug to hold me over until my Monoprice order came in.

The sad thing is I used to actually drop hundreds there, on hobbyist electronics and repair parts. Solder and capacitors are consumables, everything else is returnables. I lament that we have to chuck Nexus 7's out when they crack. There was a time when you'd go into a PC keyboard with a soldering iron if it broke.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


ThermoPhysical posted:




Doesn't 4.2.1 fix the 4.2 problems that the Nexus 7 had?

There's really no evidence of that yet (it's actually only a 1MB patch.)

I saw a few people on XDA (yeah, I know) say that bluetooth was still garbage on it.

The most tangible thing reported is December is back in the people app.

PhonyMcRingRing
Jun 6, 2002
Just got my Nexus 10 and installed all the updates. Has anyone noticed that typing in chromes address bar while music in Google Play is playing will cause the audio to start buzzing? It seems to happen in other apps, but prominently in Chrome. And online if keyboard sounds are enabled.

pairofdimes
May 20, 2001

blehhh

bull3964 posted:

There's really no evidence of that yet (it's actually only a 1MB patch.)

I saw a few people on XDA (yeah, I know) say that bluetooth was still garbage on it.

The most tangible thing reported is December is back in the people app.

From the changes here it doesn't look like anything major was changed, aside from fixing the December issue:
http://www.funkyandroid.com/aosp-JOP40C-JOP40D.html

While it's possible something changed in the bluetooth binaries, that seems pretty unlikely considering how quickly this came out.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

There's been no movement in the bluetooth tethering bug report so I'm guessing that didn't get addressed.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39637

loudog999
Apr 30, 2006

The only problem I had on my Nexus 7 with 4.2 was incredible lag. I followed some advice I found on XDA and disabled background updates for Google Currents and it has been a huge improvement.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
The only thing 4.2.1 addressed was the People December bug and some minor BT compatibility issues with IME's (controllers).

Vagrancy
Oct 15, 2005
Master of procrastination

Soviet Canuckistan posted:

Could someone with a Nexus 7 running 4.2.1 post the ro.build.fingerprint from their build.prop file? Someone posted the 4.2 one earlier which enabled me to skip the 4.2 update, but now it's pestering me about 4.2.1

For the first time ever I was in the Day 1 initial update batch too. Here's your quarantine:
[ro.build.fingerprint]: [google/nakasi/grouper:4.2.1/JOP40D/533553:user/release-
keys]


bull3964 posted:

There's really no evidence of that yet (it's actually only a 1MB patch.)

Since updates are differential the total size of the package isn't as significant as the number of files and the relative weighting of particular files within.


pairofdimes posted:

From the changes here it doesn't look like anything major was changed, aside from fixing the December issue:
http://www.funkyandroid.com/aosp-JOP40C-JOP40D.html

That's only part of the picture since it's limited in scope to the open source changes.

4.2.1 seems much more solid than 4.2 in my limited experience with it:

  • 3rd-party music widgets actually show up on the lockscreen during playback
  • No speed loss/actually operational when multi-user support is switched on
  • Power button lag gone
  • Launcher redraws gone
  • Has yet to reboot, though it hasn't really been long enough to tell if its gone for good.
  • The lag seems to have been mitigated. I can't definitively compare performance to 4.1.2 since at this point I've somewhat forgotten that frame of reference, but if I had to wing it I'd say 4.2.1's maximum speed/smoothness is better than 4.1.2, but 4.1.2 has the edge in consistency.

Haven't been able to test if the battery still drains like a sieve yet, so I'll report back later.

kitten smoothie posted:

There's been no movement in the bluetooth tethering bug report so I'm guessing that didn't get addressed.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39637

Hard to make judgement calls from the tracker, since "issued" is mostly just used as a shorthand that the issue now exists in their real, internal bug tracker. So even when a bug is fixed they sometimes don't bother updating the pleb public tracker.

FWIW Bluetooth tethering works perfectly with my 4.1.2 Nexus S, but from skimming those comments it looks like the issue may be with the entirety of non-Jelly bean devices. Odd that the stack turned out so badly given Broadcom was so confident/smug about it: http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s721534

Since going from the press release the plan is to have this same exact stack enforced on all devices going forward instead of the current OEM free for all, this can only end well if they aren't able to hammer out the cause quickly. (Realistically though the 4.2 CDD will just continue to be delayed till its fixed, and whatever version it is will be released as the "base" version to manufacturers).

tl;dr Got to love those end of year releases. This seems to be getting less broken quicker than ICS did at least.

Vagrancy fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Nov 28, 2012

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Vagrancy posted:

4.2.1 Impressions

Thanks for the update, time for me to download the bits and get to work.

Soviet Canuckistan
Oct 24, 2010

Vagrancy posted:

For the first time ever I was in the Day 1 initial update batch too. Here's your quarantine:
[ro.build.fingerprint]: [google/nakasi/grouper:4.2.1/JOP40D/533553:user/release-
keys]

Excellent, thanks.

that one guy
Jun 3, 2005
Every now and then...maybe 1-2 times a day, my N10 will freeze and stop responding. I have to hold down the power button to get the screen to turn off. Then I press the power button and there's no response, until about a minute later the tablet resets itself and works fine.

Is this a common thing?

loudog999
Apr 30, 2006

Just got the 4.2.1 update here at work. Is it going to be as easy to reroot the device as it was after updating to 4.2?

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Zero VGS posted:

How they are still in business is beyond my comprehension. They're down 80% in a year, and have got to be cooking the books Enron-style to not already be shuttering places.

I've gone in there to buy electronics maybe a handful of times this year. Each and every time was to buy a Shack's Gold-Plated Monster Butt Plug to hold me over until my Monoprice order came in.

The sad thing is I used to actually drop hundreds there, on hobbyist electronics and repair parts. Solder and capacitors are consumables, everything else is returnables. I lament that we have to chuck Nexus 7's out when they crack. There was a time when you'd go into a PC keyboard with a soldering iron if it broke.
Anytime I think of Radio Shack, I think of this: http://www.theonion.com/articles/even-ceo-cant-figure-out-how-radioshack-still-in-b,2190/

SlayVus
Jul 10, 2009
Grimey Drawer

loudog999 posted:

Just got the 4.2.1 update here at work. Is it going to be as easy to reroot the device as it was after updating to 4.2?

Best way to keep root is to use OTA Root Keeper. Other than that, you'll have to wait until someone figures out how to root 4.2.1. If you don't use OTA Root Keeper to keep root during an OTA update than you lose root until, again, someone figures out how to get root access.

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

SlayVus posted:

Best way to keep root is to use OTA Root Keeper. Other than that, you'll have to wait until someone figures out how to root 4.2.1. If you don't use OTA Root Keeper to keep root during an OTA update than you lose root until, again, someone figures out how to get root access.
Figuring out how to root isn't really a thing on a Nexus device. You just flash SuperSU again and it's done. If you have CWM installed it will even fix the root for you automatically (I don't think 4.2.1 actually broke it anyway).

Vagrancy
Oct 15, 2005
Master of procrastination

that one guy posted:

Every now and then...maybe 1-2 times a day, my N10 will freeze and stop responding. I have to hold down the power button to get the screen to turn off. Then I press the power button and there's no response, until about a minute later the tablet resets itself and works fine.

Is this a common thing?

See if the update resolves it. The N7 had sort of the opposite problem on 4.2 where the screen wouldn't come on, has yet to happen on 4.2.1.

Until then, while it's pretty ridiculous you have to at all, if you just continue to hold down the power button longer than you have been doing you can restart the tablet yourself.

The Gay Bean
Apr 19, 2004
Shade behavior is much better in the 4.2.1 update. As mentioned before the speed is also better, not that it was terrible before.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

So since the black friday sales and inclusion of the new Note what's the cheapest 10" tablet I could put 4.1 on?

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.

When I worked for Rad Shack in 1993, they were already actively moving away from parts.

It's my understanding that their primary revenue stream comes from mobile devices. Any given strip mall store has as many or more handsets from the Big 4 carriers, and a medium-sized collection of accessories. They still also sell a bunch of toys around Christmas.

Big ticket items aren't their thing, which makes sense because items like TVs and computers are nearly profit-less.

Zero VGS posted:

I lament that we have to chuck Nexus 7's out when they crack. There was a time when you'd go into a PC keyboard with a soldering iron if it broke.

Well, that hasn't been the case for decades, if it ever was. You may feel compelled to mention Model M keyboards, but those were really only consumer items for a short time, sold by a single vendor. Nobody (barring a couple thousand keyboard enthusiasts) wants to pay quadruple the price for a monster keyboard that lasts 20 years when they could pay what they do now for a keyboard that lasts 18.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
You don't have to throw them out, you simply sell them as-is to someone who wants to fix them - just like not everyone owns or knows how to use a soldering iron or feels the need to spend the time repairing something if they can replace it - especially if their time is worth more than the cost of the item.

For instance, I would be willing sit down and teach myself to repair a tablet in order to fix mine, even if it took all weekend, because a tablet is a big expense for me. My father probably would not - for one, he earns enough during the week that I am sure he'd rather be flyfishing instead of hunched over his tablet's innards (which is funny, because he spends entire weekends hunched over tiny bits of fuzz and string and hooks, instead).

It all comes down to interest level and what your time is worth.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The problem in this case is the replacement parts cost $20 less than buying a new one. That's not to mean there won't be a buyer for it, just that it will never make financial sense to try to fix it by yourself.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

Kynetx posted:


It's my understanding that their primary revenue stream comes from mobile devices.

Its not. They undercut things so much, on already thin profit margins to try to get feet in the door, they end up making nothing.

When they did that $50 iPhone deal, they had great sales, but one of the worst quarters on record.

If they survive Christmas, I will be shocked.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

Just got a Nexus 7.

What are some things I should/need to do for it, or get for it apps wise?

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009
Yeah, I ordered a N7 too, and I'm wondering if there are any good cases/stands to get for it.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Perfect Potato posted:

Yeah, I ordered a N7 too, and I'm wondering if there are any good cases/stands to get for it.

http://www.amazon.com/Blurex-Ultra-...ds=nexus+7+case

There's a bunch of different colors and stuff on amazon if you want.

Menstrual Show
Jun 3, 2004

ThermoPhysical posted:

If anyone wants an Android tablet at Radio Shack (ANY tablet except Kindle Fires), you'd better get one now or something.

Friend of mine who works at RS says they will not be carrying the 32GB Nexus 7 and they will not lower the price of the 16GB Nexus 7 (it's still at $250 when I went into his store and checked). RS HQ is not allowing it.

They will be focusing on iPads, Apple-based products, and Kindles now.

Cool story from your buddy but they have the 32gb on the website right now.

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009

Mr. Despair posted:

http://www.amazon.com/Blurex-Ultra-...ds=nexus+7+case

There's a bunch of different colors and stuff on amazon if you want.

Is the 3g version a different build that could gently caress with something like this? Otherwise the case looks perfect.

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Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Perfect Potato posted:

Is the 3g version a different build that could gently caress with something like this? Otherwise the case looks perfect.
You may need to remove the tablet to access the SIM card slot. Otherwise the models are identical (I own both).

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