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uncleKitchener posted:Would it be beneficial to add this to my portfolio?
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GetWellGamers posted:I'm pretty hooked into that sphere, though more on the medical side of things for obvious reasons. What's up? Just want to know if I'm still technically part of the club 
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Nov 28, 2012 18:13
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So that's you both leaving / trying to leave - Something going down at DNA?
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Nov 28, 2012 18:54
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What exactly is a "serious game"?
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Nov 28, 2012 18:56
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Serious Games are games whose aim includes having a real-world impact on things, whether it's advocacy of things like clean air, bringing awareness to an event or policy like Rwandan genocide, or trying to alter behaviors in beneficial ways like a game about keeping sugar levels consistent for diabetics or stop-smoking games.
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Nov 28, 2012 19:03
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Tim Schafer favorited one of my tweets. 
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Nov 28, 2012 19:43
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e: disregard
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Nov 28, 2012 20:28
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FreakyZoid posted:So that's you both leaving / trying to leave - Something going down at DNA? vvv Congratulations! Akuma fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 28, 2012 |
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Nov 28, 2012 20:38
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Well thank loving christ, finally got in at a place in LA. Not exactly dead-on my career track, but it's a job in the industry and I've got a really good friend who works there already.   
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Nov 28, 2012 20:42
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GetWellGamers posted:Serious Games are games whose aim includes having a real-world impact on things, whether it's advocacy of things like clean air, bringing awareness to an event or policy like Rwandan genocide, or trying to alter behaviors in beneficial ways like a game about keeping sugar levels consistent for diabetics or stop-smoking games.
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Nov 28, 2012 20:48
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GetWellGamers posted:Well thank loving christ, finally got in at a place in LA. Not exactly dead-on my career track, but it's a job in the industry and I've got a really good friend who works there already. Awesome to hear! Anyone going up to Game Monetization USA next week? I'll be there all week for meetings.
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Nov 28, 2012 21:36
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There's a good article on the PA-Report about some of the perils of mobile development: http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/how-making-a-quality-game-killed-a-developers-dreams-and-shut-down-his-stud
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Nov 28, 2012 21:48
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Brackhar posted:There's a good article on the PA-Report about some of the perils of mobile development: http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/how-making-a-quality-game-killed-a-developers-dreams-and-shut-down-his-stud That's not a good article, that's a whiny fool. This largely stems from their misunderstanding of how money is generated in the app store. For their first game, offering level packs / additional content is one of the worst ways to monetize since users who hit your pay-point are going to be a very small percentage of your population. Given that only a small number of those will convert, their potential funnel was abysmal. Then with their second title, they decided to ignore lessons from financially successful games and "do what's right" and go with a single pay-once strategy and hope to hit it big. This doesn't even touch the more subjective parts (their screenshots are all dark, the hard sci-fi theme, the bizarre copy in the app description, the fact that runners generally don't make money, etc). While I'm all for being true to myself and principles, if it's a business, it has to be run like one. Especially in places like the App Store, you can't ignore the learnings of people that came before you.
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Nov 28, 2012 22:02
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devilmouse posted:That's not a good article, that's a whiny fool. I do like guys like that though, I can learn from mistakes without having to actually make them. The more other people screw up and talk about it, the better I get. (I was wincing when I read how they did the iAP and how they wanted to do the second title, ouch)
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Nov 28, 2012 22:06
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devilmouse posted:That's not a good article, that's a whiny fool. ... but yes, there was a lot they could have done differently. I'd say ignoring the lessons of their previous game and going fixed price was the single most important fub they made. The rest, they could have floated - but without F2P, reviews and press do jack poo poo. People see your game, look it up, "oh it isn't free", bam. (Says the person making a F2P runner) EDIT: oh, there are plenty of builds, just none that have been pushed since you accepted :P I fell down the rabbit hole of options menu. I started just making a volume slider, but when I looked up, I'd added a credits page with auto-scrolling pane, roughed in input styles, contact forms, social ties, and more. But it's done now, and a build goes out tonight. Shalinor fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Nov 28, 2012 |
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Nov 28, 2012 22:15
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Shalinor posted:(Says the person making a F2P runner) (Who has still yet to push out a build on testflight....) edit: Feature creeped options menus ohno! devilmouse fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Nov 28, 2012 |
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Nov 28, 2012 22:16
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GetWellGamers posted:Well thank loving christ, finally got in at a place in LA. Not exactly dead-on my career track, but it's a job in the industry and I've got a really good friend who works there already. whatchu doin' bro? Congrats!
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Nov 28, 2012 22:57
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Monster w21 Faces posted:Tim Schafer favorited one of my tweets. I intermittently watched the Brazen stream on Giantbomb, and their Amnesia Fortnight thing and plan to stream everything really impressed me. Every studio should follow their lead.
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Nov 29, 2012 00:42
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devilmouse posted:That's not a good article, that's a whiny fool. I dunno, I always find reading articles about why people didn't succeed can teach a lot of lessons. Plus it was a good read.
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Nov 29, 2012 06:39
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Well gently caress. THQ is doing an awesome humble bundle now with games like Saints Row 3rd, Metro 2033, Darksiders, and Company of Heroes, and I check my facebook and what do I see? Well a friend that works at another game company linking it and saying to make sure not to give THQ any money. I am pissed because he should know better, he works on games. What is up with the hate to not care about the people who make the games. I mean there are really bad articles on Penny Arcade Report and Ars Technica about it but this just makes me mad.
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Nov 30, 2012 00:42
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I am conflicted about the bundle as well, but I already have all the games I want from that bundle. It doesn't feel like it's in the spirit of the Humble Bundle, but it's not like it will prevent great indie bundles from appearing in the future as well. Then again, using the Humble Bundle to pay a publisher isn't the same as giving money directly to the developers, which I kind of thought was the whole point. Also, they removed the EFF from the charities, which makes me sad.
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Nov 30, 2012 00:50
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endlosnull posted:I mean there are really bad articles on Penny Arcade Report and Ars Technica about it I appear to have stumbled on some bizarro Internet, where the comments on an article are actually more sensible than the article itself.
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Nov 30, 2012 00:52
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Leave it to Games Journalism to get all holier than thou about a way to buy games and funnel cash into a charity in any percentage you choose.
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Resource posted:I am conflicted about the bundle as well, but I already have all the games I want from that bundle. I can see why it wouldn't be against the concept of the humble bundle to have a Humble Big-Name Publisher Bundle for some charities. You better believe that I'm sliding that THQ share way down, though, a 20% charity cut is way too low for what this is supposed to be.
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Nov 30, 2012 03:26
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With the exception of metro 2033 all of those titles are publisher-owned studio games, for what that is worth. I laughed at the high contributor earlier named "red faction gorilla 2" though. I'm right there with you (and a dictionary) brother.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:41
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Man, I would totally play Red Faction Gorilla. At least that's a protagonist they couldn't replace with a balding white dude. Kinda makes sense, too. Gorilla.bas was a scorched earth ripoff where you tunneled into the ground. This would be that, just in 3D.
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Nov 30, 2012 06:09
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30.5 Days posted:I can see why it wouldn't be against the concept of the humble bundle to have a Humble Big-Name Publisher Bundle for some charities. You better believe that I'm sliding that THQ share way down, though, a 20% charity cut is way too low for what this is supposed to be. Humble Bundle, Inc., incorporated in March 2011, is a for-profit corporation that received $4.7M of venture capital from Sequoia Capital in April 2011. Humble Bundle employs around 10 people. Jeff Rosen and John Graham run the company. According to an interview with Richard Esguerra, former business developer at Humble Bundle (who now works in fundraising at the EFF), pay what you want and charity bundles are means to an end: to promote games. The "Indie" bundle is just one of their offerings. The company is "a distributor of digital games" that needs to show investors a return on their investment. I'm not sure why anyone, with this information, would think that the THQ Bundle betrays the spirit of Humble Bundle.
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Adraeus posted:The "Indie" bundle is just one of their offerings. Well, this is a little dishonest, let's look at the centerpiece developers of their other offerings prior to now: - Frozenbyte - Mode 7 - Lexaloffle - Introversion - Mojang - Amanita Design - Double Fine Surely you see a pattern. Like, you could argue that the purpose of Humble Bundle is "to make money", but you wouldn't be baffled if people got annoyed by Humble Bundle starting a chain of taquerias, despite the fact that it fits their companies goals. Humble Bundle's pitch is that you're doing a good thing by buying the games, in that you're piping money directly to the developer with a small middleman, in that you're giving money to charity, and in that you're supporting DRM-free software. You can't have that be your pitch, and then just drop the whole "pipe money to developers" and "DRM-free software" parts, reduce the default share for the charities, and then be all surprised that people are soft-pedalling on giving their money to THQ.
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I think THQ are probably feeling pretty humble right about now. Edit: Top Contributors: 1. Jason Rubin $1,050.00 vvvvv I just mean this whole bankruptcy situation. I've been watching the money tick up with great interest. I don't have a PC that can run any of those games (I have a lovely Mac Mini from 3 years ago) but I bought this bundle and paid over the average and gave it all to THQ. It was a great deal for me for when I eventually have a machine that can play the games, and anything I can do to stave off redundancies at fellow studios seems worthy. Not that I think it will realistically make any difference... Akuma fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Nov 30, 2012 07:48
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Akuma posted:I think THQ are probably feeling pretty humble right about now. Well, don't write them off yet, they're nearly to how much Indie Bundle 6 made already and we're a day in. So it's not like this is going to be a disaster.
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Nov 30, 2012 08:03
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30.5 Days posted:Well, this is a little dishonest, let's look at the centerpiece developers of their other offerings prior to now: Frozenbyte: Founded in 2001. Develops original IP; publishes via third parties. Mode 7: Founded in 2005. Develops and publishes original IP. Lexaloffle: Founded in 2003. Develops and publishes original IP. Introversion Software: Founded in 2003. Develops and publishes original IP. Mojang: Founded in 2009. Develops and publishes original IP. Also publishes third-party games. Amanita Design: Founded in 2003. Develops and publishes original IP. Also publishes original IP in Europe through a third party. Double Fine Productions: Founded in 2000. Develops original IP; publishes via third parties. Also publishes third-party games, namely games developed by Klint Honeychurch. THQ: Founded in 1989. Develops and publishes original IP and third-party games. Although THQ is best known as a publisher, THQ is a developer through Relic Entertainment, Vigil Games, Volition, and THQ Montreal. The only game in the Humble THQ Bundle not developed by THQ is Metro 2033 by 4A Games. The only substantial difference here between THQ and these other companies is scale. EDIT: Clarifications. Adraeus fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Nov 30, 2012 08:14
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Adraeus posted:The only substantial difference here between THQ and these other companies is scale. You heard it here first, folks: THQ is just like the developers of Frozen Synapse, only larger and less solvent.
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Nov 30, 2012 08:21
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30.5 Days posted:You heard it here first, folks: THQ is just like the developers of Frozen Synapse, only larger and less solvent. Yup.
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Nov 30, 2012 08:25
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What does "first-party" in your post even mean in that context?
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Nov 30, 2012 08:26
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Adraeus posted:Yup. About what percentage of Amanita Design's earnings from the Humble Bundle do you think was dispersed as dividends? EDIT: Akuma posted:What does "first-party" in your post even mean in that context? "They made games", I suppose. I guess independent record labels can't exist because sooner or later, they'll publish somebody's work and then they're just like the RIAA only smaller and with worse equipment. 30.5 Days fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Nov 30, 2012 08:27
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30.5 Days posted:You heard it here first, folks: THQ is just like the developers of Frozen Synapse, only larger and less solvent.
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30.5 Days posted:"They made games", I suppose. That's not quite what "first party" means.
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Pixelboy posted:That's not quite what "first party" means. What does it mean in the sentence "Develops first-party games that are published by third parties."?
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Akuma posted:What does "first-party" in your post even mean in that context? In this context, "internally developed to be published in-house." Where games were internally developed to be published by another company, I noted so. I probably should have just said that, but I wanted to keep the bullet points short. Brevity at the expense of accuracy. Oh well! EDIT: I changed "first-party games" to "original IP" in pursuit of clarity. 30.5 Days posted:About what percentage of Amanita Design's earnings from the Humble Bundle do you think was dispersed as dividends? Your original point was that past Humble Bundles were beneficial to only developers, except that you completely ignored the fact that self-publishing is publishing. "Indie" developers may not be as successful at publishing as a large enterprise like THQ, but whether a company is a good publisher has no bearing on whether a company is a publisher. You also indicated that the other Humble Bundle companies, being known primarily as developers, were unlike THQ in every way because, to you, THQ is merely a big publisher, except that you completely ignored that THQ develops games internally. You said "surely you see a pattern," but while you aimed to show me a pattern that has changed, the pattern is actually quite consistent. Adraeus fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Shalinor posted:Man, I would totally play Red Faction Gorilla. At least that's a protagonist they couldn't replace with a balding white dude. Kinda makes sense, too. Gorilla.bas was a scorched earth ripoff where you tunneled into the ground. This would be that, just in 3D. I unironically played Gorilla.bas the other day.
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