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I imagine that reviving a dreamself through a sprite after going god tier would be impossible, since the Dream-self body is the one that takes over after the God-Tier fusion: there's no dream self body left to throw into the sprite. Even when Aradia ascended, her sprite body vanished (in a huge explosion), so presumably any normal-self remains vanish in the case of going god tier using the quest beds inside prospit/derse as Rose and Dave also did. I do wonder if this means Jake is SOL when it comes to getting the got tiger since his dream self is the one that is dead.
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Dolash posted:Here's a question about Aradiabot - we know that if a dreamself dies but is revived through a sprite, the original player can still go god-tier (like Jade did), but what happens if you revive a dead dreamself through a sprite after the person in question goes god-tier? Does the sprite just create a 'hollow' copy of the person rather than use their soul? Do you just get the base components (so throwing Aradiabot in one will just roboticize whatever else you put in)? You couldn't revive your dreamself via sprite after going gotier. No matter what, the dreamself is the one that becomes godtier. ^^What he said.^^
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Prison Warden posted:I imagine that reviving a dreamself through a sprite after going god tier would be impossible, since the Dream-self body is the one that takes over after the God-Tier fusion: there's no dream self body left to throw into the sprite. Even when Aradia ascended, her sprite body vanished (in a huge explosion), so presumably any normal-self remains vanish in the case of going god tier using the quest beds inside prospit/derse as Rose and Dave also did. If I'm not mistaken, when John went god-tier his corpse was left behind. The camera hung on it from WV's perspective after John's god-tier self appeared. That would suggest some corpse or other might be left behind to revive even after god-tiering. And Aradiabot may have exploded, but the robot built in her image might retain her personality if prototyped, but that's pretty much an unsubstantiated maybe. Actually... what did happen with all the corpses left behind in the Incipisphere? Did John bury his dad (assuming his body wasn't vaporized in Rose's battle with Bec Noir)? Did he and Jade get their stuff back from their own bodies? They actually have enough remains to do a full funeral for their whole group, minus grandpa.
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Nov 29, 2012 05:43
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Dolash posted:If I'm not mistaken, when John went god-tier his corpse was left behind. The camera hung on it from WV's perspective after John's god-tier self appeared. That would suggest some corpse or other might be left behind to revive even after god-tiering. And Aradiabot may have exploded, but the robot built in her image might retain her personality if prototyped, but that's pretty much an unsubstantiated maybe. Yes, but that corpse was not his dream self. It was just his regular self. It's probably still there, actually. Gross.
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Nov 29, 2012 05:47
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Finally, I can wear something Homestuck-related to work and not look like a complete juvenile prat.
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Nov 29, 2012 06:38
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I wonder what happened between Jake and Dirk. The iPhone wallpaper makes it sad.
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Nov 29, 2012 07:29
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So clingy, Dirk. I mean, considering Dirk has still only met three other people in his lifetime and spent 16 years without any personal contact with them it's understandable. But clingy, nonetheless.
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Nov 29, 2012 07:30
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Jake has suddenly moved dramatically up in my favorite character rankings, without saying a word.
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Nov 29, 2012 07:32
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Aww Dirk is an overly attached boyfriend. 
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Nov 29, 2012 07:35
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An overly attached and controlling boyfriend. I still like Dirk, but man, that's some uncool behavior, son
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Nov 29, 2012 07:37
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This update's a bit  Also, the Lion's Mouth? I'm guessing that has something to do with Yaldabaoth since it is related to both fire and lions. Maybe the entrance is what we saw in Act 6-4? Edit: Maybe it's a passage to the core of the planet, where Yaldabaoth resides, just like he/she/it does on far future Earth.
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Nov 29, 2012 07:38
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Aw, man. Dirk's end of the chat is just about one of the most things in Homestuck.
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Nov 29, 2012 07:52
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McStephenson posted:An overly attached and controlling boyfriend. to me.
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Yeah, I'm not seeing controlling. Micro-managing and neurotic, sure, definitely clingy. Controlling does not seem like the type to send a slightly cringe-inducing amount of texts that essentially amount to "Hey, you still like me and want to do things with me, right? You didn't leave because I hosed up, right?" Probably hard to not cling a little when you've been alone in the middle of Alien Sea Hitler's murderworld for your whole life, though.
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Nov 29, 2012 08:23
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Yeah, I don't really get controlling from his text. Dirk's just real excited to go out adventuring with his best bud. Even if that's pretty much all they've been doing for however long it's been.
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Nov 29, 2012 08:23
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Man, Dirk's insecurity kind of comes through here.
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Nov 29, 2012 08:25
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DRAMA BOMB INCOMING! EVERYONE TO THE SHELTER! NEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWBAM! DIRECT HIT! There were no survivors. :| Nephthys fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Nov 29, 2012 |
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Nov 29, 2012 08:26
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Please tell me this leads to Jake talking to Sollerisprite about relationships, that would be pretty funny. But yeah, this update was pretty
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Nov 29, 2012 08:31
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Please tell me this leads to Jake talking to Sollerisprite about relationships, that would be pretty funny.
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Nov 29, 2012 08:36
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Well Manicured Man posted:Edit: The $100 pledge seems like something Hussie would spring for too: Is... is this just a regular-sized pillow with a picture of Cyberdwarf on it? 
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Nov 29, 2012 08:57
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This is the most insane theory I have ever heard.
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Nov 29, 2012 09:06
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Renaissance Robot posted:
Even better. It's a pillow case.
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Nov 29, 2012 09:13
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"Hmm, can't be that bad there's been some pretty crazy theories out there" "Roxy is based on Chell" "We're done here."
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Nov 29, 2012 09:22
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quote:Also, let us not forget that Roxy is technically adopted by Carapacians. Chell is implied to have been adopted by someone (Cave? Caroline? We may never know.) You know, I think that this theory may be a bit of a stretch.
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Nov 29, 2012 09:27
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Crain posted:"Hmm, can't be that bad there's been some pretty crazy theories out there" To be fair i would play a mod of Portal 2 where Chell is drunk!
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MyFaceBeHi posted:To be fair i would play a mod of Portal 2 where Chell is drunk! Or a mod where you just play Roxy with her sniper portal gun. And drunkenness.
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Nov 29, 2012 09:41
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Please tell me this leads to Jake talking to Sollerisprite about relationships, that would be pretty funny. iit'2 hard and nobody under2tand2
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Nov 29, 2012 09:52
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Boneless Jogger posted:Even better. It's a pillow case. Here's what I believe is the design: 
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Nov 29, 2012 09:58
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Holy poo poo what a downer of an update. Reene posted:Man, Dirk's insecurity kind of comes through here. Yeah, I feel bad for the kid, he's got zero people skills so that's just making it worse.
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Aww man. I liked those two as a couple. I guess it wouldn't be a story of teens and relationships if it wasn't also a story of relationships going wrong.
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Eiba posted:Aww man. I liked those two as a couple. I figured the fact that their relationship was kicked off by Dirk manipulating Jake into kissing his severed head in front of all his friends, and Jake kind of going along with it because he felt like it was the fair thing to do probably wasn't going to end up as totally smooth sailing forever.
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Nov 29, 2012 12:16
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I guess this is why you don't just rush to matching tattoos!
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The biggest problem for Dirk is that, as another poster pointed out, he has experience dealing with exactly 5, maybe 6 people. Jane, Roxey, Jake, Caliborn, and The Condense. And I say maybe 6 because I don't remember if he ever interacted with Calliope. Even then, those interactions were, up until very recently, purely in text format. That's not a relationship. You don't learn how to pick up on nonverbal cues. Hell you don't even learn how to pick up on most verbal cues. He's probably never heard what sarcasm even sounds like. So I'm not really surprised that there's trouble in paradise after the novelty has worn off. We'll just have to see how things go from here. Jake could be sad about something entirely different.
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Fagtastic posted:I find Hussies treatment of gay stuff exceptional in this regard. It's neither fetishistic, nor exclusively material for a joke, nor still does he make his gay relationships inevitably and excessively tragic. Which puts him in extremely rare company. Like, 'I can't think of a single example off the top of my head' rare. I'm watching you Hussie don't let me down.
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Fagtastic posted:I'm watching you Hussie don't let me down. We should really put a betting pool together of all the theories that have been posited.
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Nov 29, 2012 12:38
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I wonder how long it will go between the inevitable breakup and the inevitable ChibiSoma post parody. 
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Crain posted:The biggest problem for Dirk is that, as another poster pointed out, he has experience dealing with exactly 5, maybe 6 people. Jane, Roxey, Jake, Caliborn, and The Condense. And I say maybe 6 because I don't remember if he ever interacted with Calliope. Even then, those interactions were, up until very recently, purely in text format. That's not a relationship. You don't learn how to pick up on nonverbal cues. Hell you don't even learn how to pick up on most verbal cues. He's probably never heard what sarcasm even sounds like. His "interactions" were also mostly one-way, since in text he could get away with acting aloof and reserved and no one could do anything about it. Now that he's actually invested in a relationship he's forced to open himself up a little, and he has no idea how to work the pressure controls on his Emotions so it's like twisting the nozzle of a fire hydrant and getting blasted across the street by a spray of unfiltered Dirk.
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Nov 29, 2012 12:46
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It doesn't help that Dirk is related to both Rose and Dave, who are similarly known for their issues with trust and keeping their feelings behind a facade, and those two actually had the benefit of comparatively normal childhoods and interactions with others. (Comparatively to being the last of humanity in an evil alien waterworld, for certain.) For Dirk and Roxy, who didn't have the buffer of getting to really interact with others at all, it's obvious where their deep-seated issues with dealing with people and loneliness were cranked up to 11. Dirk's irony barrier is hefty enough to where even he might have no idea where his real self is. (Meanwhile, Roxy coped in the exact opposite manner, by letting her filter completely turn off, which is generally a little more endearing and maybe a little healthier, except for the drinking part.)
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Also, it's a pretty minor thing, and there's not much supporting evidence beyond the tattoos and a few lines of dialogue in this phone chat, but Dirk seems pretty obsessive with SBaHJ. I could see how a relationship could strain if this was a continuous thing. Could be endearing at first, then become rapidly annoying.
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Hey, it could be a good lesson for some of the more... devoted Homestuck fans. ("Let me tell you about Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff.")
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