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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

In case someone has an asterisk's brain and is transitioning their body to match it?

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ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS






quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


LordArgh posted:

What's the point of putting "*" at the end of trans?

Essentially it's a wildcard to include the entirety of the transgender spectrum, since "transgender" and "transsexual" are not synonymous.



Also Frosted Flake I used to be a creationist, fundamentalist, and homophobe back when I was younger. I have since realized that I am trans, and as a result have done an incredible amount of soul searching. Believe me when I say that I have spent far more time thinking about this than you can even imagine. You cannot possibly define gender in such a way as to invalidate transgender identities while still maintaining your current definitions of "man" and "woman". Seriously, just try it.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Frosted Flake posted:

In case someone has an asterisk's brain and is transitioning their body to match it?



In DOS, and other computery poo poo, the asterisk is a wild card. Sure we could stop at transgendered and transsexual and transvestite but why not leave it open for transethnic and transpecies. :furcry:






I kinda just wish Obama would stop being the bigger man and tell that bum to go the gently caress home to Utah and keep on making sure his grandchildren grow up to be as horrible as he is.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Hey, can y'all stop with the transphobic jokes please? Quiggy and I both know a poo poo lot more about gender after having to do that massive soul-searching. Seriously.



Syria's internet got shut down today. That historically did not work well for Mubarak.

homerlaw
Sep 21, 2008

Plants are the best ergo Sylvari=Best

Barometer posted:

Maybe I'm seeing things here, but I thought that this target (on sale locally) has a Zombie who resembles someone in American politics. Guess who?



It sure as gently caress is

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

TinTower posted:

Hey, can y'all stop with the transphobic jokes please? Quiggy and I both know a poo poo lot more about gender after having to do that massive soul-searching. Seriously.

Don't knowledge shame. People can have different perspectives.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Frosted Flake posted:

In case someone has an asterisk's brain and is transitioning their body to match it?





This Mariela Castro, Cuban LGBT activist and daughter of Cuban president Raoul Castro. With her leadership, transition surgeries are available and covered by the Cuban medical system.

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

Don't knowledge shame. People can have different perspectives.

Leaving aside how laughable the phrase "knowledge shame" is (if you don't know anything about a topic, okay, but then why weigh in? This is not something poor people who didn't have access to education do, it's something arrogant people who are willfully ignorant of the world around them do), they were clearly talking about the "hurr I decide who is a woman based on how she looks" comment, which is indefensible trolling. What TinTower meant with that comment I think was not to say "I automatically know better than you", but that trans people by definition have to think long and hard about gender on both a conceptual and personal level, so it is tiresome when some people act like some old canard they brought up is something that person has never considered before (this happens a lot). I don't think that was your intent with your comments but you have to be aware that sometimes people have a good reason for being snarky.

Anyway, have a 17th century anti-Irish cartoon by James Gillray:

Edgar Quintero
Oct 5, 2004

POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS
DO NOT GIVE HEROIN
My friend in Texas claims his friend (who is black) got this as her tip at a restaurant where she works. I apologize if it turns out to be from someone else but he's not the type of guy to try to pass off a meme as his own discovery usually.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Communocracy posted:

My friend in Texas claims his friend (who is black) got this as her tip at a restaurant where she works. I apologize if it turns out to be from someone else but he's not the type of guy to try to pass off a meme as his own discovery usually.



Does your friend post on reddit often?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I'm a fan of the inverted pink triangle:



Works great as a more militant pride flag. But the rainbow design schemes are nice too.

Also, here's some cyberpunk:

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008



One might be forgiven for thinking this is somewhere in the South (apart from all of the snow) but this is a really famous sign from Detroit before the 1960s. In the early 20th century an enormous amount of Southerners, black and white, moved to Detroit to work in the factories and racial politics got incredibly ugly. African Americans weren't allowed to buy houses in "white neighborhoods" so an increasingly large black population was stuffed into a very small portion of the city, usually far from the factories where they worked, almost invariably at the shittiest jobs in the factory. It got so bad that in 1967 after two African American veterans and all their friends were arrested at an unlicenced bar.

Things got quickly out of hand and the poor people of Detroit (mostly black but there was a not insignificant number of poor white people rioting, something that isn't talked about much) started taking out their frustrations on the city. Governor Romney called out the National Guard but in the end he requested federal troops. My grandpa was in Detroit with the Guard and he's immensely proud to this day of the fact that nobody in his squad (he was the squad leader) injured or killed anyone. That said the Guard was pretty seriously trigger happy (being mostly rural white people who weren't too fond of Detroit and certain sorts of its inhabitants) and when the US Army showed up one of the first things they did was disarm the Guard.

e: White flight was already occuring before the 1967 riot but it went into overdrive as terrified white people fled to the suburbs with all of their money. Detroit remains severely racially segregated and in regional politics "Detroit" and "suburban" are often codewords for African Americans and white people.










Soviet Commubot fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Nov 30, 2012

The Selling Wizard
Apr 10, 2009

CAN I BUM A SMOKE
OFF YA, SPACE MAN

quiggy posted:

Essentially it's a wildcard to include the entirety of the transgender spectrum, since "transgender" and "transsexual" are not synonymous.



Also Frosted Flake I used to be a creationist, fundamentalist, and homophobe back when I was younger. I have since realized that I am trans, and as a result have done an incredible amount of soul searching. Believe me when I say that I have spent far more time thinking about this than you can even imagine. You cannot possibly define gender in such a way as to invalidate transgender identities while still maintaining your current definitions of "man" and "woman". Seriously, just try it.

Except that attraction, biological sex and gender identity aren't obvious in the way that expression inarguably is; in fact, I would argue one's attractions and identity are irrelevant outside of the fact that when one associates with a person they're attracted to or corrects others on their pronoun gender usage, they've crossed from intangible feelings into the realm of concrete gender expression.

The initial comments were directed at someone who appeared biologically male and yet also appeared to be pregnant, a state which one must be biologically female to achieve (unless this is some trans argument that I'm unfamiliar with, and I'm not talking about hermaphrodites which are genetic irregularities). I would argue the inarguable presence of a womb to be a trump to any perceived ambiguities of gender expression. The fact that the person that the conversation was about was in transition from one biological sex to another is unnecessary to people who consider you what you were until you reach your destination, with a qualification that acknowledges the active change (M, F, MtF, or FtM). (Is there a significant portion of the population that's goal is to be inter-sexed? If there is I've never seen or heard of it.)

Also, because you're already probably really angry at me for the above comments, let me posit a further idea I'm sure you'll disagree with and want to throttle me for my insensitivity: ambiguities of biological sex, attraction or expression do indeed fall into categories of non-attraction, asexuality and what I'm willing to refer to as agender (rather than what it actually is, simple perception ambiguity which varies from observer to observer), the idea that someone doesn't have a gender identity is utterly ridiculous and vacuous. Don't misunderstand me: to say one doesn't know yet what they identify as is acceptable but different from "I'm nongendered. I'm nothing. Period, full stop." No, I'm sorry, that's not an option.


Weldon Pemberton posted:

"hurr I decide who is a woman based on how she looks" comment, which is indefensible trolling.

Indefensible? Are you really saying that I have to actively question people I meet as to what gender pronoun I have to use to refer to them by? Why can't I do the reasonable thing: evidence builds to an assumption that is only tentative opinion until confirmed/dis-proven otherwise (verbally or nonverbally)?

Weldon Pemberton posted:

if you don't know anything about a topic, okay, but then why weigh in? This is not something poor people who didn't have access to education do, it's something arrogant people who are willfully ignorant of the world around them do

You could just say "check your cis privilege". That'd be shorter and mean the same thing, you jackass who presumes anyone who disagrees is automatically making a volitional decision to be disrespectful to others.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Omi-Polari posted:

I'm a fan of the inverted pink triangle:



Works great as a more militant pride flag.

That's pretty cool.











Interesting post, thanks! Bayonets in the streets seems kind of counter-productive since that makes it pretty dangerous to shove people with your rifle.

ekuNNN fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Nov 30, 2012

Edgar Quintero
Oct 5, 2004

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DO NOT GIVE HEROIN

quote:

Does your friend post on Reddit often?
Dammit, he admitted he stole it from reddit "to make a point" to some conservative he was talking to. Kind of defeats the purpose, it'll just confirm their belief in left-wing conspiracies if they find out something like that is untrue.

Moving on: New York City experiences first day in living memory with no violent crime
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20536201

ellie the beep
Jun 15, 2007

Vaginas, my subject.
Plane hulls, my medium.

The Selling Wizard posted:

The initial comments were directed at someone who appeared biologically male and yet also appeared to be pregnant, a state which one must be biologically female to achieve





Really apart from the linea nigra and the whole posing of the photograph dude just looks like he got a gut on him. I will grant that further in the pregnancy the illusion is harder to maintain, but that is primarily because the rest of him doesn't look as fat as one would expect a gutty dude to appear.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
I don't think this is the most appropriate place to have a serious discussion on gender issues, being a picture thread and all. Trigger warning: eagle.

the2ndgenesis
Mar 18, 2009

You, McNulty, are a gaping asshole. We both know this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KFVVKFxr60

Yiddish socialist/anarchist songs are loving awesome, and I'm not even a little bit Jewish. :allears:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

ekuNNN posted:

That's pretty cool.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. But I have to sorta object to this. Axes? Like this girl is an axe murderer? It seems like posturing to me. But that's anarchists.

I love "These Faggots Kill Fascists" banner.

Also, this is nice:

Obsoletely Fabulous
May 6, 2008

Who are you, and why should I care?
The sad state of the city I grew up in. They were at one point considering moving people out and then cutting off city services to whole neighborhoods.

A block people paint on a weekly basis. The paint must be inches thick by now.


Chevy in the Hole. At one point one this was a GM auto plant complex.


Vacant homes and neighborhoods.

Fluoride Jones
Aug 24, 2009

toot toot

Italy actually just told Abbas recently that they are going to vote 'yes'

ekuNNN posted:

You've seriously got ONE atheist? :stare:

If you think this is bad, you should see the makeup of the Senate.
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/minority_senators.htm

Lyapunov Unstable
Nov 20, 2011
A random break from the misery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwe-pA6TaZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH2Z_1-Frb8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8XIx0hO0aQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg8LfoyDFUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wRNz-xmdI8

if you got through all five videos through crying you're clinically psychotic sorry bout that get a bourgeois therapist especially the last one you genocidal fucks

watch this following video to have one of the worst experiences of your life and see the deepest depths of capitalism (freedom!):

http://retrofilms.in/index.php?productID=381

Lyapunov Unstable fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Nov 30, 2012

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
If we just had some straight up industrial feudalism, everything would be so much easier. I'd pledge my life to a liege lord and work for him in his factory. Then I wouldn't have to worry about utility payments, retirement, voting in pesky elections, which stores to shop at, or any of that nonsense. Don't you all wish you could have a life that easy?

Eikre
May 2, 2009

New Division posted:

A lot of Civil War generals liked being photographed with their hands in their shirts. I wonder if they were consciously or unconsciously trying to ape Napoleon's famous pose.



A lot of people raise this possibility, but I don't subscribe to it.



Pictured: Earliest known portrait of George Washington, painted in 1772. Napoleon turned three years old that year.

I'm not saying Washington was the true originator of the pose, either, though. Finding somewhere to put your hands is an important part of composition, and for whatever reason, these days we happen to think that having a hand in your jacket looks ridiculous in a way that we people didn't use to.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ebftIo_qu4

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Keep on Truckin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H40EsEVU1Wk

One of the last videos out of Syria before the internet was cut off. Accidentally started watching whilst that Agnus Dei video above was playing. gently caress man :smith:

GirlBones
Jun 10, 2007
I am not very good at the internet

Experto Crede posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H40EsEVU1Wk

One of the last videos out of Syria before the internet was cut off. Accidentally started watching whilst that Agnus Dei video above was playing. gently caress man :smith:

I don't have a picture to post. I don't care if I get probated. I have to post and say don't watch the video in this link if you don't want to see a living, breathing headless child. This is the worst thing I have seen on the internet, and I have seen a lot.

EDIT: if you are american, canadian, or european, Watch This Video.

GirlBones
Jun 10, 2007
I am not very good at the internet
permaban me i dont care i've never cried this hard

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Muy
Dec 11, 2005
MuyBurrito
And one for GirlBones



One for me

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010
If only peace was easier than war

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

the2ndgenesis posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KFVVKFxr60

Yiddish socialist/anarchist songs are loving awesome, and I'm not even a little bit Jewish. :allears:

He also hates fascists a whole lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxvknIFD1EQ

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Awesome :allears: Their cover-song embrace the fascists is also awesome:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcvjiu_daniel-kahn-the-painted-bird-embrac_music

Some lyrics:

quote:

You have to treat them nice and gentle
Do nothing rash, they're sensitive
You must be somewhat sentimental
Respectful of the way they live
Don't let your dogs attack them on the street
Embrace the fascists where you may meet

If they should call for hate or violence
Just let them talk, it is their right
And keep your protestations silent
You wouldn't want to start a fight
For fighting is what they do best
Embrace the fascists and you'll be blessed

And if they fire their guns upon you
Is life so precious in your eyes?
You would be sheep with wolves around you
Why not be gladly victimized?
And if you feel inside your guts
The Nazi dagger's blade
embrace the fascists that you have made



Omi-Polari posted:

Yeah, it's pretty cool. But I have to sorta object to this. Axes? Like this girl is an axe murderer? It seems like posturing to me. But that's anarchists.

Haha, yeah, I agree, they're trying a bit hard to look cool. Although with the way fascists think about gay people, why not axes? v:v:v

ekuNNN fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Nov 30, 2012

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Bill O'Reilly is a racist idiot and Gangnam style is apparently "dangerous".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb0bCvfwv9g

GirlBones posted:

I don't have a picture to post. I don't care if I get probated. I have to post and say don't watch the video in this link if you don't want to see a living, breathing headless child. This is the worst thing I have seen on the internet, and I have seen a lot.

EDIT: if you are american, canadian, or european, Watch This Video.

It needs to be seen by far more people than those who will see it. I've sent a link to all three major newspapers in Norway, hopefully at least one of them will devote a tiny little blurb about it.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
This one is great too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSrusP5SZI4

Can't go wrong with originals either though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRCt0vkDKfY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ft9iuZu0AI

Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Nov 30, 2012

cyberbully
Feb 10, 2003

Black Griffon posted:

It needs to be seen by far more people than those who will see it. I've sent a link to all three major newspapers in Norway, hopefully at least one of them will devote a tiny little blurb about it.
Listening to NPR's bit about the internet getting shut down yesterday, the reporter mentioned it briefly and sounded seriously distraught over it. I hadn't seen it till now, had the same effect on me.

Have to remember, war is actually fun and sexy.

dr cum patrol esq
Sep 3, 2003

A C A B

:350:

Experto Crede posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H40EsEVU1Wk

One of the last videos out of Syria before the internet was cut off. Accidentally started watching whilst that Agnus Dei video above was playing. gently caress man :smith:

This is just awful, I can't even handle it emotionally. I wish there's something I could do. I really just can't even handle it, I just can't.

Pic unrelated:

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Dalrain
Nov 13, 2008

Experience joy,
Experience waffle,
Today.

Experto Crede posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H40EsEVU1Wk

One of the last videos out of Syria before the internet was cut off. Accidentally started watching whilst that Agnus Dei video above was playing. gently caress man :smith:

Frontline had really great coverage as to why this whole thing is happening. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/syria-undercover/

If you don't have time to watch it, the salient takeaway is that the ruling military class is a different (minority) ethnicity which fears deadly retribution if overthrown, and so sees the situation as a struggle for existence.

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quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Experto Crede posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H40EsEVU1Wk

One of the last videos out of Syria before the internet was cut off. Accidentally started watching whilst that Agnus Dei video above was playing. gently caress man :smith:

Jesus Christ, I think I need to go lie down for a bit. Any idea what the full context of this is?

Unrelated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo

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