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Buffs are even crazier in some of the earlier SMT games, where they don't wear off, and they stack. Then there's poo poo like Fog Breath. Fog Breath is just nasty.
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YggiDee posted:Buffs are even crazier in some of the earlier SMT games, where they don't wear off, and they stack. 
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Dec 1, 2012 09:50
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Just finished the true ending and epilogue. It's all over  God drat, was that awesome. I thought the original was great, but this just blows it out of the loving water. Definitely get this if you're on the fence, I'd even say that it's worth getting the system for it if you're so inclined to do things like that. True end and epilogue spoilers: Oh god that was amazing. Seeing everyone six months later  Everybody looks really happy, and Nanako really is starting to resemble her mother.drat, Naoto  Kanji  Rise hair big hair. Apparently Marie's associated persona is Kaguya? Sweet, that's the one I used for the endgame. Wish we could have used her as a party member, but I think it's better this way. Speaking of Marie, I think it went something like this: 1. Izanami -> Dies after giving birth to Kagutsuchi, splits into: 2. Izanami-no-Ookami + Ameno-sagiri + Kunino-sagiri + Kusumi-no-Ookami AKA Marie -> Regroup after True End into: 3. Izanami-no-Mikoto AKA Mariko Kusumi AKA Magic Weatherwoman I suppose the game made a point out of redeeming Izanami by using the truth theme against the "do not look at me" portion of the "origin of death" myth, so that she can die for real this time and be reborn as Marie. Hence why the protagonist's persona is Izanagi. As such, I still think the MC is supposed to be Izanagi's reincarnation v  v So in some way, Marie is implied to be the intended route (or maybe not, considering how it went last time).The world of the Midnight Channel (i.e. inside the TV) is probably supposed to be a manifestation of humanity's thoughts and memories given form, like a metaphysical "fantasy" world vs. our world of reality. Kinda like Gensokyo, without the "forgotten" part. (Or maybe it is, considering the whole conscious vs. unconscious thing?) So! Any chance for more? Or is it Persona 5 from now on? I have no idea how they're going to top this. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Dec 1, 2012 |
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Dec 1, 2012 10:20
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Endorph posted:To do a quick summary: Yosuke is a bit of a jack-of-all-trades early on, later on he becomes more of a buffer/nuker. They've changed Naoto significantly to get every single target Dyne spell if you go on Bike Dates. I have Kanji and Teddie, so I gave Naoto Fire and Wind and every element is covered. Also Invigorate 2+3 so SP isn't as big of a deal for Naoto as it used to be.
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Dec 1, 2012 10:33
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:They've changed Naoto significantly to get every single target Dyne spell if you go on Bike Dates. I have Kanji and Teddie, so I gave Naoto Fire and Wind and every element is covered. Also Invigorate 2+3 so SP isn't as big of a deal for Naoto as it used to be.
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Dec 1, 2012 10:52
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Endorph posted:Kanji is a lot like Chie in that he's a phys damage dealer but he's a bit beefier than her and his magic is worse. I always assumed Kanji was had better magic. He get's -dyne spells, while Chie doesn't go beyond Mabufu and Bufula.
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Dec 1, 2012 15:40
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I always assumed Kanji was had better magic. He get's -dyne spells, while Chie doesn't go beyond Mabufu and Bufula. I think Chie can unlock further ice skills now so Kanji is definitely the worst at magic. Edit: Jesus this band scene is the most anime thing THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Dec 1, 2012 |
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Dec 1, 2012 15:53
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:He has the worst magic stat and horrible SP but does get the whole range of skills. He even gets healing skills now on bike dates. Kanji learning healing spells just...sucks. They should've given him almost literally anything else. I always hated making a party. Kanji and Chie both are pretty awesome (Kanji is better overall, but GALACTIC PUNT!), but having both of them in your party at once is really redundant, and a huge pain in the rear end if you're fighting guys who are resistant to physical. I end up usually switching between them whenever I enter the TV. THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Edit: Jesus this band scene is the most anime thing It wouldn't be a JRPG without a crossdressing scene and a band scene.
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Dec 1, 2012 16:06
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Cannot Find Server posted:It wouldn't be a JRPG without a crossdressing scene and a band scene. Good thing there's not a beach trip and a hot springs episode or this would be getting really.....oh
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Dec 1, 2012 16:07
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W.T. Fits posted:This is from an mechanics guide for the PS2 version; presumably, this stuff wasn't changed for Golden:
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Dec 1, 2012 16:37
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Nondevor posted:Also, Chie's new voice is really weirding me out right now. It's not bad.
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Dec 1, 2012 16:37
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New Teddie sounded off for some reason in Persona 4 Arena but honestly outside of a word here and there I probably wouldn't have noticed the change if I wasn't aware of it in Golden. Also new Chie is pretty great although it sounds like she slips into a Hispanic accent or something every once in a while. The new battle music is growing on me but I really like how the old one plays on Player Advantage battles. Overall it's really nice as someone that played the hell out of the original. I'm a little surprised funky student didn't get new riddles though.
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Dec 1, 2012 17:54
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Radish posted:New Teddie sounded off for some reason in Persona 4 Arena but honestly outside of a word here and there I probably wouldn't have noticed the change if I wasn't aware of it in Golden. Also new Chie is pretty great although it sounds like she slips into a Hispanic accent or something every once in a while. he gets one in January but it's easy as hell.
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Dec 1, 2012 18:15
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One of the best things about Golden is that the animated cutscenes are actually (relatively) well made this time around. Well, except for a certain couple of scenes that are just completely and utterly unnecessary... 
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Dec 1, 2012 18:24
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I haven't gotten around to testing it yet myself, but looking at it, I think Naoto's actually really viable for boss fights now, if you're willing to put in a little extra effort. With the first bike date you get Bufudyne. If you check the gem trade-in shop, you can get a gun with Ice+25% on it. Combine that with a +50% Ice accessory, and Naoto winds up on equal footing with someone that has a Boost+Amp. Mind you, the ideal max-damage set up for a character would be Amp + 50% Accessory, but don't forget that Naoto has Mind Charge to crank up the damage. Not to mention that having someone other than the MC able to cast Heat Riser sounds pretty excellent.
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Dec 1, 2012 19:00
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How do dungeons reset in this? Do I have to go out of the TV and back in?
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Dec 1, 2012 19:05
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Fallom posted:How do dungeons reset in this? Do I have to go out of the TV and back in? Each individual floor resets whenever you leave it. So say you're in Yukiko's Castle, and head up to Floor 4 from Floor 3, if you go back down to Floor 3, it'll have a different layout.
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Dec 1, 2012 19:07
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Golden Battler posted:Not to mention that having someone other than the MC able to cast Heat Riser sounds pretty excellent. Dragon Hustle would like a word with you. That SP cost and unlock requirement hurts, though.
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Dec 1, 2012 19:09
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Schubalts posted:Dragon Hustle would like a word with you. That SP cost and unlock requirement hurts, though. Dragon Hustle costs 150 SP. Chie has 299 SP at level 99. 
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Dec 1, 2012 19:16
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Just noticed they eased up on the "five-o'clock-shadow effect" that the character portraits all had in P4. Also, my SOS phrase is "Bearsona Let's Go! Thanks To Sensei!" The image is, of course, Teddie.
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Dec 1, 2012 19:17
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W.T. Fits posted:Each individual floor resets whenever you leave it. So say you're in Yukiko's Castle, and head up to Floor 4 from Floor 3, if you go back down to Floor 3, it'll have a different layout. Note that if you warp out of the dungeon and go back in, the floor will be the same as you left it UNLESS you went back to the entrance, in which case it will reset. Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Chie has 299 SP at level 99.  They did that intentionally, didn't they?
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Dec 1, 2012 19:17
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Dragon Hustle costs 150 SP. Chie has 299 SP at level 99. I found myself pretty happy with Tarukaja and Debilitate personally in the original. I'm not sure Heat Riser is all that necessary.
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Dec 1, 2012 19:19
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Nate RFB posted:Haha, drat. It is if you like nuking the hell out of bosses like I do  Although I eventually changed it to Great/Normal received/dealt cause I was getting sick of obnoxiously long bosses.Edit: This is also why I constantly use Naoto. That as well as one of my favorite characters. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Dec 1, 2012 |
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Dec 1, 2012 20:02
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Do you actually need Diligence higher than Rank 3 for anything? Nothing immediately comes to mind.
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Dec 1, 2012 21:21
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Cake Attack posted:Do you actually need Diligence higher than Rank 3 for anything? Nothing immediately comes to mind. More fishing attempts, and I think there's a choice in one of the Tower S.Link scenes where you need high Diligence in order to stay later to help the kid with some of his homework.
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Finally got a Vita after trading in a bunch of Wii games, though I'll have to wait for my memory card to arrive. drat it I just played through this game twice not too long ago. I generally dislike keeping everyone leveled up, so I do prefer to stick to one party. The only characters I'm quite confident I will drop are Chie and Teddie, and then after that it's whether I swap out Yosuke for Naoto. I really like Naoto's new skills, but Yosuke was probably the second most useful fighter I had previously besides Yukiko. Also gonna ask this again: do Evade skills stack? Such as equipping Yukiko with Eye of Ice along with her Evade Ice skill?
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Dec 1, 2012 21:25
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I want to say it does, if it's anything like Amp and Boost. But don't take my word for it 
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Dec 1, 2012 21:27
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Cake Attack posted:Do you actually need Diligence higher than Rank 3 for anything? Nothing immediately comes to mind. The Meat Dimension
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Nate RFB posted:Finally got a Vita after trading in a bunch of Wii games, though I'll have to wait for my memory card to arrive. drat it I just played through this game twice not too long ago. I can't find anything in that old FAQ I mentioned (found here). I'd say probably not, but I don't know for sure.
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Dec 1, 2012 21:32
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They gave Teddie new bear puns for winter break. Kodiak arrest!
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Dec 1, 2012 21:38
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That reminds me, is there a Round 2/Full Stats Max S-Link guide out yet?
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Dec 1, 2012 21:51
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Pollyanna posted:That reminds me, is there a Round 2/Full Stats Max S-Link guide out yet? There's a Max S-Links guide at GameFAQs, but it only goes up to the end of August.
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Pollyanna posted:That reminds me, is there a Round 2/Full Stats Max S-Link guide out yet? I think the KADFC guide on GameFAQs has a Round 2 guide near the bottom. Not sure if it's updated for the new Golden content.
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You guys were not kidding about Naoto's quest reward costume. Wow.
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Dec 1, 2012 23:24
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Schubalts posted:You guys were not kidding about Naoto's quest reward costume. Wow. Can it really be worse than Persona 3's "Battle Panties"?
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Dec 1, 2012 23:48
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Volt Catfish posted:Can it really be worse than Persona 3's "Battle Panties"? It's the same thing.
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Well, I found the 8-bit boss battle theme on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xDqJYqZXtk Also, the Valentines day event was amazing. It was great for them to finally call out the Mormon harem bullshit that seemed completely acceptable in P3/P4, I'd have liked it more if there was some sort of Bad End for having chosen the romance option for all the female S-links. Conch Shell Corp fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Dec 2, 2012 |
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Just found the little flaw in taking the save points away right before the bosses: I went through all of Void Quest, got to the boss and realized I'd forgotten to restore SP. Not wanting to waste a turn, I did what I'd become used to doing: I quit out of the game. Which, of course, had no idea that I'd gotten all the way to the tenth floor. 
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epenthesis posted:Just found the little flaw in taking the save points away right before the bosses: I went through all of Void Quest, got to the boss and realized I'd forgotten to restore SP. Not wanting to waste a turn, I did what I'd become used to doing: I quit out of the game. Which, of course, had no idea that I'd gotten all the way to the tenth floor. That's what Goho-M and Return Daikons are for. That sucks, though.
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So, Rise learns Relaxing Wave 16 levels earlier. That's insane. That skill pretty much removes 90% of the dungeon's danger.
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