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cornface posted:...I was making a joke. I don't actually think the show has a chance of being canceled or that TV executives think their own popular show is garbage and want to get rid of it for the good of humanity. See also Two and a half men. That show should have been old yellered a long time ago.
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sportsgenius86 posted:could that even be used as evidence? The wiretap tapes? Nope. But remember, Gemma mentions "there's plenty of security footage on that lot" from when the two of them went to the storage unit to pick up the cross. So, Toric suggests to the cops that they check into any locations that the club, Gemma, or her son might be renting to store stuff in. The cops pull the video tapes, the tapes aren't tainted.
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Dec 5, 2012 18:04
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I thought this was a good episode? Also, it's probably not Gemma who sold Tara out
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Dec 5, 2012 18:11
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It is without a doubt not Gemma who sold her out, primarily because it is implied that she was going to/has motive to and this is SOA.
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Dec 5, 2012 18:31
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Conquistador posted:It is without a doubt not Gemma who sold her out, primarily because it is implied that she was going to/has motive to and this is SOA. <CLEVER SUTTER TWIST>
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:<CLEVER SUTTER TWIST> I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to have Abel be the rat
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Wolfy posted:Tig and Jax both had gloves on. I sincerely hope Clay gets murdered in prison but I know this is all flying back on Juice because what the hell would go on in this show if Clay was dead. Yeah, you're right (they had their riding gloves on). I thought Jax had his hands on the gun a couple episodes ago but I'm honestly uncertain. Juice's prints are all over that thing, though. Ghostpilot posted:I'm not sure. Maybe it's the gun that killed Roosevelt's wi--...no, that was her gun. Huh. Lemme take a screenshot of it. v  vTwee as gently caress posted:I have to say, this thread has been incredible to read. Pretty good, actually! Here're the corrections / clarifications.
But yeah, pretty spot-on!
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-Walter, bad, but she turned him down.
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Conquistador posted:It is without a doubt not Gemma who sold her out, primarily because it is implied that she was going to/has motive to and this is SOA. 
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Dec 5, 2012 18:48
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I liked the finale. I could see the double cross coming from a mile away once Pope handed him the document. Also I love how Jax ripped up the godmother documents at the end of the finale. On a related note, Goon prospect is crossing over to other shows. I saw this on this week's Raising Hope  
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Dec 5, 2012 19:26
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maybe kurt sutter and peg bundy will die in a car accident next week or something
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Dec 5, 2012 19:28
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maffew buildings posted:i'm trying to be optimistic, people I actually used to think Gemma was pretty cool. Actually, as I was writing this I was going to complain that she is a selfish cartoonish bitch that I can't stand, but then it occurred to me that you all might mistake my description for literally every character in the show.
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vyst posted:I liked the finale. I could see the double cross coming from a mile away once Pope handed him the document. Also I love how Jax ripped up the godmother documents at the end of the finale.  This almost makes all five seasons of SOA worth it. Go GP.
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Ghostpilot posted:Yeah, you're right (they had their riding gloves on). I thought Jax had his hands on the gun a couple episodes ago but I'm honestly uncertain. Juice's prints are all over that thing, though. Seriously. You don't think that he wiped it down between then? The sheriff only said that the gun was registered to Clay. Didn't say anything about finding fingerprints on it. Anyways most of the fingerprints on there are likely smudges to begin with.
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nooneofconsequence posted:No, they definitely said it had Clay's prints. You can wipe the gun down and it still have Clay's prints on it and nobody else. So I wouldn't worry about that.
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Does anyone else recall the season preview that showed Jax driving his bike off a bridge? I waited all season to see when that was going to happen and it never materialized. Was it supposed to be some lovely analogy like the mysterious bag lady?
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I'm so angry that the season cliff-hanger revolves around the Gemma/Tara fight. Their fight is easily the worst of the ongoing subplots. Is it really that huge a deal that the family moves to Oregon? The family has money so it's not like she can fly there whenever she wanted to visit. Hell, with the way things are looking, the Sons won't be the same so Gemma could loving move there too. It's just so dumb and I can't believe it at all. The ONLY bright side is that Jimmy Smits might be around next season.
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Active666 posted:Does anyone else recall the season preview that showed Jax driving his bike off a bridge? I waited all season to see when that was going to happen and it never materialized. Was it supposed to be some lovely analogy like the mysterious bag lady? The whole thing is a metaphor. The bridge is quality. The bike is the show. Jax is Sutter. The music is some poo poo he heard on internet radio.
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Active666 posted:Does anyone else recall the season preview that showed Jax driving his bike off a bridge? I waited all season to see when that was going to happen and it never materialized. Was it supposed to be some lovely analogy like the mysterious bag lady? It's a metaphor for Jax getting to the bottom of things, duh. Right, this Louis CK thing, was it a joke all along that kept snowballing or what? I'm confused.
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Joe Don Baker posted:I'm so angry that the season cliff-hanger revolves around the Gemma/Tara fight. Their fight is easily the worst of the ongoing subplots. As deplorable as Gemma was for much of the season, I sympathized with her when Jax started using her as a tool against Clay. That and I liked her subplot with Nero (although she is absolutely toxic to that man's life). That all ended when she punched Tara in the stomach and said, "I hope you're not pregnant."  Pregnant? You mean with your son's kid? Your potential grandchild? As bad as Clay is, I think it's now a two-horse race between Gemma and Jax for the title of "most reprehensible character on the show."
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Does this mean that Donal Louge is gonna go all Punisher on the club next season? Also that cover was poo poo.
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Ghostpilot posted:As bad as Clay is, I think it's now a two-horse race between Gemma and Jax for the title of "most reprehensible character on the show." Absolutely. Wasn't there a line in the finale or something like it where Jax pretty much said he's being just like Clay? edit: I did like the shoot-out with the station wagon. It was crazy and fun. THAT'S what SOA should be every week.
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Joe Don Baker posted:Absolutely. Wasn't there a line in the finale or something like it where Jax pretty much said he's being just like Clay? You know something's going to go down when they show up in a 400 dollar station wagon with a roll cage.
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metachronos posted:Does this mean that Donal Louge is gonna go all Punisher on the club next season? I don't hate this show nearly as much as the rest of you guys, I see it as the A-team with better acting, but I really hope this happens and I really hope he takes out the entire club. That would be such an excellent end to the series.
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mookface posted:You know something's going to go down when they show up in a 400 dollar station wagon with a roll cage. With wood paneling. I thought those things were extinct ages ago, but they keep turning up.
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Active666 posted:Does anyone else recall the season preview that showed Jax driving his bike off a bridge? I waited all season to see when that was going to happen and it never materialized. Was it supposed to be some lovely analogy like the mysterious bag lady? Actually, Sutter hasn't been too ham fisted with this one, which I suppose means he hasn't decided yet. I've been calling Oedipus since mid Season 2 but I don't get the bag lady. Is she a personification of Jax's connection to Charming? Last night I pondered if she was a deep cover federal agent.
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Kat Delacour posted:Actually, Sutter hasn't been too ham fisted with this one, which I suppose means he hasn't decided yet. I've been calling Oedipus since mid Season 2 but I don't get the bag lady. Is she a personification of Jax's connection to Charming? Last night I pondered if she was a deep cover federal agent. Guess you can say that he's been too busy fisting something else. 
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Ghostpilot posted:With wood paneling. I thought those things were extinct ages ago, but they keep turning up. Just wait til next season when the sons have to war with station wagon-driving rastafarians who are moving into the sons (illegal operation) because ________.
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That has to be my favourite version of Sympathy for the Devil. Go Perry (again). I was kind of hoping it would transition into Rock and Roll.
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Kat Delacour posted:Actually, Sutter hasn't been too ham fisted with this one, which I suppose means he hasn't decided yet. I've been calling Oedipus since mid Season 2 but I don't get the bag lady. Is she a personification of Jax's connection to Charming? Last night I pondered if she was a deep cover federal agent. Nah, she's the caretaker of the Black Lodge. She only speaks backwards.
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ruddiger posted:Just wait til next season when the sons have to war with station wagon-driving rastafarians who are moving into the sons (illegal operation) because ________. 'EM SONS BE SELLIN' WEED AN' TING WHERE DEY AIN'T MEANT TA BE SELLIN', GON' BRING DA FIRE 'PON 'EY HEADS, RIGHTEOUS FIRE FROM BABYLON, SEEN??? <reggae-rock music blares over chase sequence as someone crashes their bike into some steel drums> Sons of Stereotypes 
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Capn Beeb posted:'EM SONS BE SELLIN' WEED AN' TING WHERE DEY AIN'T MEANT TA BE SELLIN', GON' BRING DA FIRE 'PON 'EY HEADS, RIGHTEOUS FIRE FROM BABYLON, SEEN???  I can't lie: I'd watch the poo poo out of that.
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cornface posted:"She's never going to get custody! She's nothing but a junky!" Yeah, even I, who barely pays attention to this show, had to mentally pause at that. Dude, if not for Tara, Able would have been in foster care when you were shipped off at the end of season 3. Troll Bridgington posted:The dog fighting scene filled me with rage and sadness, but it introduced probably the only real likeable character of the season. That scene actually made me physically ill, as I suspect it did a lot of viewers. Honestly, I nearly just turned the show off and said "gently caress it" to the rest of the episode. watt par posted:Nah, she's the caretaker of the Black Lodge. She only speaks backwards. This is an example of why there needs to be a post LIKE button on SA. WescottF1 posted:Just watched Raising Hope.. Filthy Phil just had a cameo in his SAMCRO cut. Babysitting, naturally. BEST PART OF SOA ALL SEASON.
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chesh posted:That scene actually made me physically ill, as I suspect it did a lot of viewers. Honestly, I nearly just turned the show off and said "gently caress it" to the rest of the episode. Ok, this would be my other question about this episode besides "why is Chucky still a thing?" How exactly do you make a fake dogfighting scene anyway? I was watching that knowing it was fake but still wondering, like do they train the dogs to play fight instead of real fight or something? I was trying to wrap my head around how you make a scene like that without CGI or animal cruelty. They really kinda looked like they were going at it.
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This was goddamn terrible. First, we get a retarded music montage showing us every drat plotline that's hanging loose. That alone was a good laugh, because it showed how stupid this show became. Then we get dogfights out of nowhere, because even after all the crap this fun, wholesome family bikergang has done, we need to cheer them on. What better way to abuse rape, white supremacy and animal cruelty, right? I wonder what needs to happen in season 6 for any viewer to get a shred of sympathy in any scene. Then it's off to the usual, that's been well-described on the last page; HAHA MADE YOU LOOK. That's all there is. The entire season is an ever growing pile of poo poo, with Jax "getting to the bottom of this" and in the final episode it magically happens. Just like Jax, Sutter sees the end game, bro. The end of Pope; really? The big bodyguard that never leaves his side, suddenly decides not to join in Pope's supreme moment? But hey, another sidetrack closed, and Jax (Sutter) can look smug at the camera. Then we get more Tara/Gemma crap, which, as stated numerous times by you lovely folk, you have been able to fast-forward for a long time now. And the grand finale, I guess, was Jax doing a number on Clay. Who in the hell cares? They are two obnoxious, dumb, irritating characters that gently caress eachother over every episode. And that is my main problem with Sons; there is actually not a single character or storyplot I care about. None. And every single one they added this season, has zero meaning. Hell, Nero is basically a "get out of crap free" card that keeps getting played. Can't believe they reused the imageshot, but this time with Gemma / Jax. Deep poo poo, bro.
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Acht posted:Then we get dogfights out of nowhere, because even after all the crap this fun, wholesome family bikergang has done, we need to cheer them on. What better way to abuse rape, white supremacy and animal cruelty, right? I wonder what needs to happen in season 6 for any viewer to get a shred of sympathy in any scene. Next season will have SoA stopping a terrorist attack on Charming.
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BrandonGK posted:Next season will have SoA stopping a terrorist attack on Charming. Guest starring Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer, living in Charming with a new identity. A terrorist fighting team with the street smarts of a MC president, and tactical prowess of an ex-special ops agent, comes together to save the country yet again. Together, Jax and jack will finally "get to the bottom of this."
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Junkenstein posted:Right, this Louis CK thing, was it a joke all along that kept snowballing or what? I'm confused. I was wondering about that too. It turns out it was something Joel McHale and Kurt Sutter joked about on Twitter before McHale filmed his cameo. 
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TheSpiritFox posted:Ok, this would be my other question about this episode besides "why is Chucky still a thing?" I read that for the movie Amores Perros, for the dogfighting scenes they would use dogs that were brothers that were raised together so they could naturally roughhouse with each other without seriously hurting each other, I'd imagine they did a similar thing with the fight in this episode.
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