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Faustoan Bargain posted:I'm not confident enough in my pen to part with Burnett, I fear. Haha, fair enough. I'm leaning pretty heavily on Alan Embree ffs, so I'm looking for any lefty reliever with a pulse. Faustoan Bargain posted:What years Porter and Fisk are we talking about? And what beyond the pick would each require? It honestly wasn't even on my radar until now; they combined for 26 home runs last season for me, which is Real Good for catchers in the Super League. They're '75 and '84 respectively. Problem is, a lot of your strengths are also mine - I need a reliable left side of the infield and a few more competent rotation arms. I don't know, Fisk is better than what's left in the draft pool, you want Averill, Fisk, and Matt Williams for your last two picks, Ian Desmond, and the LOOGY of your choice? Two Hall guys+ is pretty good value.
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Viscount Slim posted:Haha, fair enough. I'm leaning pretty heavily on Alan Embree ffs, so I'm looking for any lefty reliever with a pulse. Downgrade the pick to the 3rd rounder, but also get Desmond and your pick of Burnett/Thornton for Averill?
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Understandable. Sure, that works for me. I'll give Thornton a shot if you're dissatisfied with him.
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Faustoan Bargain posted:Tempting, but I'm wary of Fisk's age - if Javy Lopez can't be trusted coming off a ridiculous year at 32, I'm not sure how much more comfortable I should be with a 36-year-old coming off a very good year, even a HoFer. That's probably a risk I'm facing with just about any catcher, I guess. Faustoan, if you still care to look for pieces to add to the C/CF deal we discussed, I finally finished my list of players. It should be here. e: Note that all of my C's are quite young and spry. 
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 The Cleveland Commies have reached a trade with Burma Imperialists Commies receive 1937 Earl Averill Burma Imperialists receive 3rd-round draft pick, 2012 Ian Desmond, and 2011 Matt Thornton Commies use their second-round draft pick to select 1911 Chief Bender. (No word on if Cleveland management will force Bender to use the nickname "Wahoo." )Mornacale - sorry, but I'm pretty pleased with my CF fix, and decided that there just isn't a perfect catcher to be worth worrying about in the face of more significant holes. (Now watch Javy puncture a lung in the first week of April.)
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Draft Order/Pool for a new page. Eh, I'm thinking about adding a supplemental round, but I'm going to sleep on it.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Eh, I'm thinking about adding a supplemental round, but I'm going to sleep on it. Wouldn't hurt; there's 104 players but only 50 picks and more filler wouldn't hurt.
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Right, I'm trying to figure out who should get some extra picks, any thoughts people?
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Right, I'm trying to figure out who should get some extra picks, any thoughts people? Best team name Best team logo (were any of them more than poorly edited GIS results?)
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Best team logo (were any of them more than poorly edited GIS results?) Mine was taken from the best .gif, thank you very much  also quoting for the new page: Monicro posted:Hey dudes, if someone wants to trade for:
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Best team logo (were any of them more than poorly edited GIS results?) I made mine in OOTP! Smasher Dynamo posted:Right, I'm trying to figure out who should get some extra picks, any thoughts people? Dunno, pick the winners of Friday night's NBA games?
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Comedy option: Gigantic Epicmafia tourament.
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Bloggers Trade Block Just to re-iterate, here is a spreadsheet containing every even-marginally-interesting player I own. Anyone not named Bonds or Radbourn is tradable, though you can see that some positions (SS, 3B) are pretty thin and would need a replacement. I'm specifically looking to part with excess C, 1B, 2B, CF, SP, and RP. I would happily trade for your draft pick, or trade up. My needs are (in order) SS, 1B, 2B, SP, 3B, RP. Infield defense is a priority; if your infielder is a butcher I must demur. I like groundball pitchers. I also am willing to move draft picks. If you can beat the available players at one of my positions of need, then my draft picks can be yours. I have two of the next five, plus a late 3rd-rounder. ----- mks5000 and TKBomber7285, is there anything above that works in the frameworks we've been discussing? TK, I still like McGwire, but it's clear that he's worth less than my two best picks; is there a deal to build around Grantham? CraigK and BrooklynBruiser, both of you have put 2Bs on the market. Both of them concern me defensively. However I'm still interested in offers involving both of them. Ditto CthulhuDreams and Mr. Yount. BearDrivingTruck, if you're looking for bullpen help, I think I can make a comparable offer to Robb Nenn. Something like 2004 Mike Gonzalez + someone. Sure you're not willing to trade? Monicro, if you want to make me an offer for Ott I'd consider it. I've also got peripheral interest in: Ray Culp, Bill Hands, Dick Radatz, Mike Flanagan, and Tim Stoddard. I'd also trade you quite a bit for Cal Ripken or Nap Lajoie. Quite a bit indeed. ----- If you're going to add a supplemental round just to distribute more players, why not just add a fourth round in general? Not that I would mind just giving more picks to divisional winners, of course. A bigger thing that I was thinking about with respect to the EC/SL is that I think future ECs should offer more minor league spots. Especially as a new player, there are tons of dudes on my feeders that I'd really like to see a roll on, but can't. It would be great to have had a chance to see what BBM thinks of some of these dudes. Heck, honestly, why not roster expansion in general? Most well-established SL teams have way more than 28 dudes on their rosters (I have complained about this issue before). By my count the SL teams at the end of SLVII had 32 players on the roster.
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I don't know, if I'm going to do supplemental picks, I'd probably want to give a few picks to teams that survived the Super-League, but didn't make the playoffs as well. As far as roster limits, expanding them in the EC might be a good idea, but I don't know that doing it in the Super-League is a good idea. Here's why: First, you'll get some new players during the season, either by trade, or super-draft, or whatever the hell I come up with to replace the old Super-League Challenge system, so only having 28 spots on your roster is a transitory problem. Second, giving new owners more slots is just going to end up hurting them. Here's the thing, owners usually come up with solid lineups and rotations for opening day. But hen the games start getting simmed, and they start freaking out, and they make panic moves, and do things like say "Oh man, Ripken is only hitting .200 through the first three weeks of the season! I'd better bring in Rafael Furcal." If I expand the roster, you're going to spend the extra slots on players that should never, under any circumstances, play in the Super-League but, since they're there, you'll feel compelled to use them when your roster doesn't perform exactly the way you think it should. Having an extra roster spot so you can stash Joey Cora or Luis Sojo or Jose Oquendo can only lead to to tragedy.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:If I expand the roster, you're going to spend the extra slots on players that should never, under any circumstances, play in the Super-League but, since they're there, you'll feel compelled to use them when your roster doesn't perform exactly the way you think it should. Hah! Joke's on you! I've already decided Mitch Meluskey is going to be on my roster!
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And I was looking to flip Biggio assuming I'd draft a 2B with the pick I spent on Larry Walker, so, uh, disregard that offer now
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Second, giving new owners more slots is just going to end up hurting them. Here's the thing, owners usually come up with solid lineups and rotations for opening day. But hen the games start getting simmed, and they start freaking out, and they make panic moves, and do things like say "Oh man, Ripken is only hitting .200 through the first three weeks of the season! I'd better bring in Rafael Furcal." If I expand the roster, you're going to spend the extra slots on players that should never, under any circumstances, play in the Super-League but, since they're there, you'll feel compelled to use them when your roster doesn't perform exactly the way you think it should. Having an extra roster spot so you can stash Joey Cora or Luis Sojo or Jose Oquendo can only lead to to tragedy. Okay, but where's the downside? CraigK posted:And I was looking to flip Biggio assuming I'd draft a 2B with the pick I spent on Larry Walker, so, uh, disregard that offer now Nobody has taken a 2B since then, but okay I guess?
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Mornacale posted:Okay, but where's the downside? Well, my plan was to trade Biggio + something else for a pick later on so I could get a decent 2B, but it looks like even now, all the current second-basemen are kinda crap and I'd be best off to stick with what I've got. CraigK fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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Monicro posted:Mine was taken from the best .gif, thank you very much Mornacale posted:Bloggers Trade Block I am interested in your Ernie Lombardi's. Monicro, what are you looking for specifically? Mornacale, I have a couple starting pitchers, 1919 Phil Douglas and 1919 Claude Hendrix, if you want deadball pitchers. Make me an offer.
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Mornacale posted:mks5000 and TKBomber7285, is there anything above that works in the frameworks we've been discussing? TK, I still like McGwire, but it's clear that he's worth less than my two best picks; is there a deal to build around Grantham? Viscount Slim posted:Fair enough, any other throw-ins you can add in lieu of Velarde? He's certainly not worth killing the deal over. I only suggested him because you're going to have to pare down to 28 players after the picks, etc. I'm still interesting in possibly making a deal for either 76' Kaat or 72 Stottlemyre, but I decided that I'm going to wait until after my 3rd round pick to do so. Unless someone wanted to trade me an everyday right fielder (again, lefty preference) for Kaat, Stottlemyre and my 3rd round pick. I would likely make that deal. But again, I'd likely wait a bit until I see what my option with the pick would be.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:I don't know, if I'm going to do supplemental picks, I'd probably want to give a few picks to teams that survived the Super-League, but didn't make the playoffs as well. Ha, well, pretty sure I need help more than, say, the Landers.
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With the 32nd pick in the Super League Dispersal Draft, the Providence Barons select  1966 Brooks Robinson
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Past trade question; did anyone get Rip Sewell from me? I recall certainly him being offered for/me offering him, but I don't have it written down who ended up with him, if indeed anyone did.
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I'm not ready to pick yet, but if my time limit passes my current preference is Noodles.mentholmoose posted:Mornacale, I have a couple starting pitchers, 1919 Phil Douglas and 1919 Claude Hendrix, if you want deadball pitchers. Alright, so, it looks like you didn't use either guy in EC, so I haven't the slightest clue what BBM thinks of them. Nobody seems to want to trade for them, so my impression of SL's opinion isn't real good. So here's an idea: Bloggers give: 1932 Ernie Lombardi + PTBNL (anyone not on my current 28-man, plus 1968 Denny McLain) Failures give: 1919 Phil Douglas + 1919 Claude Hendrix Stipulations: 1) If the average OVR of Douglas and Hendrix is below 87, the Bloggers retain the right to void this trade (returning all players to their original owner) through the end of the first month of SLVIII. 2) If the average OVR of Douglas and Hendrix is above 92, the Failures will receive a second PTBNL (per the above guidelines) (To clarify, I intend for the "PTBNL"s to be named whenever you agree to the deal, just the one would only be sent over if the condition is met.) I think that covers both our asses some as far as the volatility of not knowing how those guys will grade out.
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You guys are making quick work of this draft...time to slow you all down! I've added a Supplemental Round to the draft, in which all teams will get a pick, the order of which was determined by a weighted lottery. The order is as follows: 51. Florida Oranges 52. Cleveland Unicorns 53. Seattle Suicides 54. Dubai Dervishes 55. Luna Landers 56. Philadelphia Failures 57. Portland Bulldogs 58. Barons 59. Mighty Oneida Spooners 60. Coburns 61. New England Arguments 62. Spokane Air Raids 63. Cuba Smokers 64. Florida Dickshots 65. Albany Pessimists 66. Hartford Whalers 67. Rochester Generics 68. San Juan Elephants 69. Cancun Tornados 70. Saturn Biosparks 71. Finger Lakes Phoenixes 72. Web 2.0 Bloggers 73. Burma Imperialists 74. Cleveland Commies 75. Ryleh Cultists 76. New Orleans Mashers 77. Oxbridge Mathematicians 78. Antarctica Unspecifieds 79. Wausau Woodchucks 80. Rockford Losers 81. South Bolton Eazy W's 82. Fukuoka Finger-Bangers Also, I've raised the cap on players for new teams to 30 from 28. I hope these extra slots end up burying Mornacale's team.
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:I've got frank smith who is deadball as gently caress with a 94 rating, what else would you want for Lombardi? 94 you say?  Looking for the same old same old: upgrades at pitching and infield. Trading Lombardi gives me a hole at C (I like my two other guys a lot as backups, not so much as starters), so it has to be worth not just taking Noodles. If you think you can beat the deal I pitched to moose, go for it. TKBomber, would you do George Grantham + my 3rd-round (#49) for McGwire and a swap of our supplemental picks? I could throw in someone who's not currently on my 28-man, or otherwise negotiate. Mornacale fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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Mornacale posted:94 you say? Check the first dates of the season - players who are real major leagues experience ratings decay if you leave them in the minors for too long. OK if you need some catching, how about Smith + 2001 Irod for Lombardi plus something small? I can toss in ted lilly if you'd like.
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:Check the first dates of the season - players who are real major leagues experience ratings decay if you leave them in the minors for too long. Nah. I'd rather trade for infield/pitching and then use a pick on a C.
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Since everyone is getting all frisky with this whole trading malarkey, this is what I need, in order of priority: some decent relievers; a 3B who is a better hitter than John Valentin, and an equivalent fielder at worst; an OF who gets on base better than Roger Maris; a utility middle infielder. What I can offer: my remaining picks and/or all the unused players on my feeders (45 and 64 Yankees, 57 and 97 Red Sox, and there is an MVP lurking among them).
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mentholmoose posted:I am interested in your Ernie Lombardi's. Pitching mainly. Maybe a Right Fielder but I may be able to get that sorted out independent of this trade. Maybe Douglas + Hendrix in exchange for Lombardi + Morogiello?
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Monicro posted:Pitching mainly. Maybe a Right Fielder but I may be able to get that sorted out independent of this trade. I'm intrested in this as well, what do you need in addition to Frank Smith from me?
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Robert_Deadford posted:Since everyone is getting all frisky with this whole trading malarkey, this is what I need, in order of priority: I have relievers and middle infielders, check out the appropriate tabs.
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Luna Landers offer 1926 Lou Gehrig Supplemental draft pick #55 Web 2.0 Bloggers offer 1968 Denny McLain 1968 Willie Horton 3rd round pick #35
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mrnoun posted:Luna Landers offer Bloggers confirm Also, in case it's not obvious, this means we retract our offer to TKBomber. Mornacale fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Dec 7, 2012 |
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