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Dead Snoopy posted:Clay isn't going to necessarily survive prison and it's not like he has the resources to mount an elaborate defence, much less bail.
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Hopefully by firing the missile.
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Dec 7, 2012 04:55
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I think it was Wendy that ratted on Tara as a way of getting her kids back. Accessory to Murder > Junkie. Never mind that she wouldn't have any reason to actually know about Tara bringing the crucifix to Otto. She probably got that info from Donal Logue in a scene that Sutter never wrote.
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Dec 7, 2012 05:32
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Assuming the police didn't just finally get around to charging Tara, it was Gemma who reported her. She even said she'd do it after she found out about the offer from the hospital. And it's not like after she helped frame Clay that afternoon she wasn't above sending someone else to prison.
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watt par posted:Assuming the police didn't just finally get around to charging Tara, it was Gemma who reported her. She even said she'd do it after she found out about the offer from the hospital. And it's not like after she helped frame Clay that afternoon she wasn't above sending someone else to prison. Is this the first episode you've watched?
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cornface posted:Is this the first episode you've watched? Well yeah I wouldn't put it past Sutter, but still.
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Senjuro posted:Word of warning: The Wire ruins the rest of television for you (especially cop shows) so don't go near it before you're done with The Shield. As others have stated, this simply isn't true. The Wire hits the ground running and is outstanding from the first episode to the last. The Shield has a weak "monster of the week" first season and really takes off in the second and doesn't ever falter. The main difference is The Wire is gritty and realistic, while The Shield is more less concerned with realism than telling an excellent story. Overall The Wire is the better show, but that doesn't mean a hell of a lot when talking about two of the best shows ever made. Also, how did the whole "JUICE IS BLACK!?!?" storyline end? That was the final straw for me. Sutter should be ashamed of that story arc.
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Dec 7, 2012 06:33
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It was literally just Jax, Chigs and Bobby at the table discussing his betrayal. Chigs told Jax what the leverage was (Black daddy), Jax looks around at Chigs and Bobby and says "I think it's time we changed a couple of by-laws". They agreed and it sort of had a "this should never have been a problem in the first place" vibe.
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Dec 7, 2012 06:39
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Once you've seen The Wire season four, the rest of television is kind of just a thing.
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Dec 7, 2012 06:59
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Dead Snoopy posted:Why did Otto bite off his tongue? He's a psycho. Look back at everything we've seen about him and how do we NOT expect some batshit insane act of self mutilation? You took that comment far to seriously.
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Dec 7, 2012 08:11
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Q_res posted:It was literally just Jax, Chigs and Bobby at the table discussing his betrayal. Chigs told Jax what the leverage was (Black daddy), Jax looks around at Chigs and Bobby and says "I think it's time we changed a couple of by-laws". They agreed and it sort of had a "this should never have been a problem in the first place" vibe. Yeah but then Jax uses it as leverage against Juice, doesn't he? It doesn't just end with Jax, Chibs and Bobby yukking it up. Jax uses it to secure Juice's vote at ~!~The Table~!~. Also Juice says nothing when Clay is arrested, depriving him of an alibi. Or am I remembering wrong?
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Q_res posted:It was literally just Jax, Chigs and Bobby at the table discussing his betrayal. Chigs told Jax what the leverage was (Black daddy), Jax looks around at Chigs and Bobby and says "I think it's time we changed a couple of by-laws". They agreed and it sort of had a "this should never have been a problem in the first place" vibe. Well that's just lazy.
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Seams posted:Yeah but then Jax uses it as leverage against Juice, doesn't he? It doesn't just end with Jax, Chibs and Bobby yukking it up. Jax uses it to secure Juice's vote at ~!~The Table~!~. Also Juice says nothing when Clay is arrested, depriving him of an alibi. Or am I remembering wrong? Jax holds the fact that Juice was talking to the Feds as leverage, I don't think he technically holds the dad issue over his head. But my memory might be off on that. Besides, of course Juice doesn't say anything, Juice gave Jax the gun so he could set Clay up. Q_res fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Dec 7, 2012 |
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Right, but the whole black dad is the reason Juice was talking to the Feds in the first place. So I consider Jax's blackmail part of the same arc.
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Sure, but I think there's a big difference between "You were ratting the club out to the Feds, you'd better get in line" and Jax holding his father over his head.
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Dec 7, 2012 08:35
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niethan posted:I miss Henry Rollins. He didn't really do anything and got his rear end kicked a lot. Pretty much a non-starter. Whatever happened to the leader of the Nords who had a changer of heart over the Jewish Holocaust survivor?
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Dec 7, 2012 08:52
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NewtGoongrich posted:As others have stated, this simply isn't true. The Wire hits the ground running and is outstanding from the first episode to the last. The Shield has a weak "monster of the week" first season and really takes off in the second and doesn't ever falter. The main difference is The Wire is gritty and realistic, while The Shield is more less concerned with realism than telling an excellent story. Dude, compared to the Shield the Wire loving sucks.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Once you've seen The Wire season four, the rest of television is kind of just a thing. Yeah. I think overall I prefer The Shield but Season 4 of The Wire is amazing.
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Rhyno posted:Dude, compared to the Shield the Wire loving sucks. there are no words that are more false on the Internet than this. I mean jesus loving christ.
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Azure_Horizon posted:there are no words that are more false on the Internet than this. I mean jesus loving christ. The catfish thread would like a word with you. Maybe he is trolling, maybe that is his opinion. Either way, does it matter?
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Dec 7, 2012 12:15
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The Shield owns, The Wire owns. We don't have to fight over this
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Armyman25 posted:He didn't really do anything and got his rear end kicked a lot. Pretty much a non-starter. Whatever happened to the leader of the Nords who had a changer of heart over the Jewish Holocaust survivor? He was intense enough that him not doing anything was better than anything anyone else on the show did
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Zzulu posted:The Shield owns, The Wire owns. We don't have to fight over this Yeah, save it for the Breaking Bad finale thread.
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Rhyno posted:Dude, compared to the Shield the Wire loving sucks. "You want it to be one way, but it's the other." -Marlo Stanfield
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Decent season final. Did Gemma know Clay was going to get arrested? Seemed to me she was deciding whether or not to give a false statement... but unsure if she actually knew this was going to happen
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truther posted:Decent season final. Did Gemma know Clay was going to get arrested? Seemed to me she was deciding whether or not to give a false statement... but unsure if she actually knew this was going to happen I think Gemma knew something was going to happen to Clay via Jax which is why she was lulling Clay into a false sense of security of their 'old life', to which Gemma did not want to return. She simply pounced on the opportunity and can just say he wasn't home and thus no alibi with her (and possibly Juice for that matter).
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I am watching the season finale now. Why the gently caress does Tig give a poo poo about dog fighting? He has killed a loving lot of people. That is so loving stupid. EDIT:: Also who is the homeless chick that just pops up like an angel or some poo poo every once in awhile? Is it ever explained and I just missed it? EDIT 2 :: WTF WHY DID HE BITE HIS TONGUE OFF. How many days does Jax have to not shower to get such a nice thick coat of grease on his head? Why did Clay have a gun registered in his name? Tennis Ball fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Dec 9, 2012 |
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Tennis Ball posted:I am watching the season finale now. Also remember he hated Lem over something to do with a dog.
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Tennis Ball posted:Why did Clay have a gun registered in his name? That's a pretty good question.
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Tennis Ball posted:Why did Clay have a gun registered in his name? Didn't he say it was a gift from somebody. I imagine Clay registers for guns like chicks register for wedding gifts.
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Donny Brook posted:Didn't he say it was a gift from somebody. I think he meant because Clay is a convicted felon on probation, which is a big no-no.
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Q_res posted:I think he meant because Clay is a convicted felon on probation, which is a big no-no. And also because of Season 1 when Gemma pulls Tera aside and gives her a gun saying "don't use one registered in your name" like it's the most basic killing people with guns advice there is. Even if it was a gift it was a gift from an outlaw, gotta be, so why would it have ever been registered in Clay's name?
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"Don't use a registered gun to kill people" doesn't logically lead to "Don't own any registered guns", that's silly.
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Q_res posted:"Don't use a registered gun to kill people" doesn't logically lead to "Don't own any registered guns", that's silly. Being a felon logically leads to "Don't own any registered guns" \/\/ yeah I saw it... are you arguing with yourself or something? CloFan fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Dec 9, 2012 |
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No poo poo? Read 3 posts above yours champ...
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If you've ridden the SOA train this far down the line, how in the world can you continue to expect significant plot points to stand up to critical reasoning? 
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ShuckyDucky posted:If you've ridden the SOA train this far down the line, how in the world can you continue to expect significant plot points to stand up to critical reasoning?
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nooneofconsequence posted:Still wondering why Gemma wasn't arrested for her DUI crash! Detective Jax is still getting to the bottom of it, bro.
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nooneofconsequence posted:Still wondering why Gemma wasn't arrested for her DUI crash! Unlike most things in the Sutterverse toxicology reports take time
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