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Makarov_ posted:A political PR / state lobbyist in Colorado has started showing up in the media, claiming to represent "businesses" concerned about employees showing up to work high, or using marijuana on the job. Her name is Sandra Hagen Solin, and her company is Capitol Solutions. Has anybody told her the election was a month ago?
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Makarov_ posted:A political PR / state lobbyist in Colorado has started showing up in the media, claiming to represent "businesses" concerned about employees showing up to work high, or using marijuana on the job. Her name is Sandra Hagen Solin, and her company is Capitol Solutions. Probably CCA, possibly some sort of social conservative organization.
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Dec 7, 2012 06:05
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Kenshin posted:Probably not Coors. I don't think cannabis directly competes with beer. Coors probably has a problem because he's an rear end in a top hat, not because it's competition.
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Dec 7, 2012 06:16
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You guys may be on to something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBC_8zSYjOs
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Dec 7, 2012 06:46
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fade5 posted:That isn't really comparable, since the reason a child usually ends up overdosing on something is that they think "well if one is good, two is better". It's not even drugs, a kid can overdose on vitamin supplements if they take/eat too many of them. Weed is a very powerful antidepresent,insomnia cure and makes you love everone even Stalin and Hitler
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The Scythians used to get high on weed an d drink from the shkulls of the people that they killed!!!!!!!!!!!  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 7, 2012 09:23
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Kenshin posted:Probably not Coors. I don't think cannabis directly competes with beer. Cannabis legalization DOES actually appear to reduce alcoholism. I'm less sure it competes with recreational beer drinking, to be fair.
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Dec 7, 2012 10:04
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Dudes! posted:The Scythians used to get high on weed an d drink from the shkulls of the people that they killed!!!!!!!!!!! My brother once told me Viking berserkers would smoke pot before going into battle.
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Dec 7, 2012 12:27
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Broken Machine posted:I would be surprised to see the feds crack down on states legalizing cannabis. Unfortunately, they seem to be considering doing exactly that: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/us/marijuana-initiatives-in-2-states-set-federal-officials-scrambling.html It is going to create a hell of a mess with states rights, undermining a democratic vote and federal powers. Not to mention many backers of legalization voted for Obama. It seems the Justice Department wants a hard crackdown on the states. Despite this, the genie is out of the bottle. Whatever their response is, it is going to take time. Once people see that legalized weed is not the end of civilization and there are no overdoses in the streets, it is going to be harder and harder to justify such a severe reaction. Such as DEA agents kicking in doors and arresting recreational pot users. At least I hope so. I'm probably asking too much for a sane reaction to drug policy in this country. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Dec 7, 2012 |
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Dec 7, 2012 12:32
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A hard crackdown would be incredibly stupid on Obama's part. "Thanks for re-electing me, liberal voters! Now off to jail with you!" The GOP didn't manage to kill liberal voter enthusiasm, but Obama certainly might.
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Dec 7, 2012 12:51
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Kenshin posted:Probably not Coors. I don't think cannabis directly competes with beer. She actually lists CCA as a past client: http://www.capitol-solutions.com/cs/clients.php http://www.sos.state.co.us/lobby/LobbyistSummary.do?quitButtonDestination=lobbyistResults&id=1819&lobbyistId=20017000584
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Dec 7, 2012 15:03
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Gort posted:My brother once told me Viking berserkers would smoke pot before going into battle. I always heard it was the magic mushrooms. If I was going to run into battle naked armed with a fuckoff huge sword, I'd pick the mushrooms. LOTS.
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Dec 7, 2012 15:16
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Sound posted:I always heard it was the magic mushrooms. If I was going to run into battle naked armed with a fuckoff huge sword, I'd pick the mushrooms. LOTS. There were also psychedelic molds present in bread and beer at the time.
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DonnyJepp posted:She actually lists CCA as a past client:
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Kenshin posted:Hah, there we go. Mystery solved. She's a concern-troll for the prison industry.
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Dapper Dan posted:Unfortunately, they seem to be considering doing exactly that: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/us/marijuana-initiatives-in-2-states-set-federal-officials-scrambling.html All that article is really saying is that they are "considering their options" and having high level meetings about the subject. They aren't going to give hints as to what they're going to do before they do it, hence the "leaving all options on the table" talk and speculation of how they would attack the law.
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Have there been any updates with: The meetings between CO/WA attorney generals (or was it governors?) and Eric Holder. or The proposed bill(s) to exclude CO/WA from the CSA?
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Dec 7, 2012 17:13
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Sound posted:I always heard it was the magic mushrooms. If I was going to run into battle naked armed with a fuckoff huge sword, I'd pick the mushrooms. LOTS. Not psychedelics. Think Deliriants. Amanitas and such. Or men who have such severe PTSD that they fly into a murderous rage on the battlefield.
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Dec 7, 2012 17:52
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Butt Soup Barnes posted:Have there been any updates with: I know Washington progressive organizations are trying to get our Governor-elect to go to bat for us on this one instead of just our attorneys.
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Dec 7, 2012 18:07
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Yeah it's probably safer to attribute classical and medieval heroism to a lifetime of PTSD than it is to shrooms.Dudes! posted:The Scythians used to get high on weed an d drink from the shkulls of the people that they killed!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dec 7, 2012 18:07
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Cannabis legalization DOES actually appear to reduce alcoholism. I have never woken up under a car in the parking lot of a bar after smoking too much. I have never woken up in my bathtub with the shower still running after smoking too much. I have never hosed a fat chick after smoking too much.
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Dec 7, 2012 18:23
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veedubfreak posted:I have never woken up under a car in the parking lot of a bar after smoking too much. I have never woken up in my bathtub with the shower still running after smoking too much. I have never hosed a fat chick after smoking too much. If these things happen with any sort of regularity, that is alcohol abuse, and it's counted as such in most statistics. (Well, except the "hosed a fat chick" part, what the gently caress dude?)
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Dec 7, 2012 18:26
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cargo cult posted:Yeah it's probably safer to attribute classical and medieval heroism to a lifetime of PTSD than it is to shrooms. Probably the both, to be honest. Warfare and drugs have walked hand in hand for entire human history, pretty much. Soldiers have loved to get drunk and use any means possible to get completely wasted as long as there has been soldiers, because war is kinda lovely. I really don't think Vikings taking shrooms would be such a stretch.
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Sound posted:I always heard it was the magic mushrooms. If I was going to run into battle naked armed with a fuckoff huge sword, I'd pick the mushrooms. LOTS. Fly Agaric mushrooms, different kind of 'magic'.
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Amarkov posted:If these things happen with any sort of regularity, that is alcohol abuse, and it's counted as such in most statistics. Lets just say I was abusive in college.
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Pedrophile posted:You guys may be on to something: He should have mentioned that there's no control group. Let's get our critical epidemiology right, people! 
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veedubfreak posted:Lets just say I was abusive in college. Oh no, don't get me wrong, lots of people's college drinking habits are classified as abuse. I'm just saying that diminished rates of blacking out and waking up in $hilarious_situation would be accounted for in a study of marijuana use and alcohol abuse.
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The official University of Colorado response seems to be "gently caress voters, money is involved. Also, drugs are bad, mmkay?"CU alumni email posted:When Colorado voters in November passed Amendment 64, which legalized small amounts of marijuana for personal use, it led to a number of questions. Most uncertainty surrounds the conflict between the new state law and federal law, under which marijuana remains illegal. Amendment 64 will be signed into law in January and take effect in January 2014.
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Ehh. Underage drinking is also banned, but nobody really cares about it. I'm perfectly fine with universities saying the right things to keep their funding; strong statements against marijuana don't actually mean they intend to stringently enforce their policy.
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Inferior Third Season posted:The official University of Colorado response seems to be "gently caress voters, money is involved. Also, drugs are bad, mmkay?" It's restricted for under-21s anyway and that'd be the vast majority of people living on campus.
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computer parts posted:It's restricted for under-21s anyway and that'd be the vast majority of people living on campus. Yeah pretty much. Anyone who really wants to do either thing can just go to an off campus party same as always.
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Inferior Third Season posted:The official University of Colorado response seems to be "gently caress voters, money is involved. Also, drugs are bad, mmkay?" The amendment has a specific provision that lets schools (and other entities) control marijuana use on their property. Voters didn't say "make weed legal for everyone everywhere all the time." As a practical matter, the school has to abide by federal law because they're dependent on federal funding. If they didn't ban drugs on campus, they'd be considered no better than an unaccredited diploma mill when it came time to hand out federal education money. That's why the University of Washington has adopted a similar official stance, even though by all accounts the personal views of many people in university administration are very different. Space Gopher fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Dec 8, 2012 |
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Sound posted:I always heard it was the magic mushrooms. If I was going to run into battle naked armed with a fuckoff huge sword, I'd pick the mushrooms. LOTS. We couldn't grow cannabis here before greenhouses most of the time.
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Space Gopher posted:The amendment has a specific provision that lets schools (and other entities) control marijuana use on their property. Voters didn't say "make weed legal for everyone everywhere all the time." Colorado also gives jack poo poo for funding to the public universities these days as compared to, say, 10-20 years ago. Thanks, TABOR! CSU has had to raise tuition a ton, even for in-state students, just to keep functioning. I'm sure CU is the same. They really aren't kidding when they say they can't afford to lose federal funds.
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I don't see why anybody is concerned about the University of Colorado's policy, kids are going to go out on that green and smoke more weed, happily than they've already done countless times before.
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What are the vegas odds on the Feds crushing this?
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Full Battle Rattle posted:What are the vegas odds on the Feds crushing this? With what army of federal enforcement agents can they accomplish what used to be done by state and local cops on the ground? How many people do you think work for the DEA, and do you think they have enough surplus manpower to pursue state-legal marijuana possessors instead of those in other states, or more important targets altogether?
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mdemone posted:With what army of federal enforcement agents can they accomplish what used to be done by state and local cops on the ground? How many people do you think work for the DEA, and do you think they have enough surplus manpower to pursue state-legal marijuana possessors instead of those in other states, or more important targets altogether? There are tons of ways that they can crush it without boots on the ground.
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Sources says its unlikely given the current Climate in California. Granted, you might end up as one the unlucky few.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:What are the vegas odds on the Feds crushing this? I assume they're high. (Perhaps not the best way to word that response.) I'm more interested to see where Washington state is in a year: selling out of storefronts? Horns locked with the DEA?
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