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Yonic Symbolism posted:I think it's far more likely a suit will look at the most successful shows on TV and ask for a version of one to be set in space. House MD in space. It's essentially the same thing, but all the diseases are bizarre made-up alien nonsense.
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Supercar Gautier posted:House MD in space. It's essentially the same thing, but all the diseases are bizarre made-up alien nonsense. How horrible would a 'Walking Dead in Space' show be?
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Dec 10, 2012 18:51
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Hewlett posted:How horrible would a 'Walking Dead in Space' show be? The Walking Dead's problems have more to do with execution than the basic premise, so either way really.
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Dec 10, 2012 18:57
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Hence, I'm sure "game of thrones in space" is coming sooner or later. Peter F. Hamilton's Night's Dawn trilogy?
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Dec 10, 2012 19:22
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So am I an alpha-grade sperglord if the idea of the Enterprise being able to chill underwater like it's no big deal bothers the fuckin PISS out of me?
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Dec 10, 2012 19:48
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Hewlett posted:How horrible would a 'Walking Dead in Space' show be? Isn't that basically Firefly but with more Reavers? AlternateAccount posted:So am I an alpha-grade sperglord if the idea of the Enterprise being able to chill underwater like it's no big deal bothers the fuckin PISS out of me? Yes.
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Dec 10, 2012 19:51
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It bothers me, too.
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Dec 10, 2012 19:53
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All I can think of is the scene in Futurama where their ship's being dragged underwater. "Five thousand feet! That's over one hundred and fifty atmospheres of pressure!" "How many atmospheres can this ship withstand?" "Well, it's a spaceship, so anywhere between zero and one."
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Dec 10, 2012 20:00
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In TOS the Enterprise survived nuclear explosions. So I don't think water pressure would be an insurmountable obstacle for their engineering skills. Kind of like how taking off from the ground probably isn't a big deal when you can warp space-time to move at multiples of the speed of light.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:09
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It's also a reference to the USO (unidentified submerged object) phenomenon. All those UFOs that are currently monitoring earth often chill out and hide in the ocean, didn't ya know?
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Dec 10, 2012 20:22
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If they don't dip into the water every once in a while, how else are they going to fill up their engineering/comic relief tubes in the brewery section of the ship?
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Dec 10, 2012 20:23
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Eh, Trek at least pretends to be grounded in reality, even if it then bullshits up some new law of physics to explain things. Regardless, there's only so much stress the structure of those things can take, even with a ton of power pouring into the integrity fields. Nacelles should shear clean off the mounts, the neck of the saucer would collapse... even the Constitution(Lensflair) with its thicker, scalloped mounts and struts would tear apart once removed from space. If structural integrity fields are so good, the ship should never get damaged. But it does, so there's limits to how far it can hold the ship together.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:25
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:If structural integrity fields are so good, the ship should never get damaged. But it does, so there's limits to how far it can hold the ship together.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:27
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They just realigned the deflector, like always.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:28
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I know it's important to establish a firm sense of what's possible and avoid making your audience take too many leaps of faith in too many directions, but "A spaceship can't go in water!" is a strange thing to point to as being in any way egregious.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:30
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sean10mm posted:In TOS the Enterprise survived nuclear explosions. So I don't think water pressure would be an insurmountable obstacle for their engineering skills. EDIT: No seriously the whole point of deflector shields is to handwave the fact that even traveling in space a tiny particle traveling really fast is enough to blow the ship into pieces. MadScientistWorking fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Dec 10, 2012 |
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Dec 10, 2012 20:30
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That ship's been hit with half a dozen missiles every week for 50 years, it can handle a little bit of water. It's pretty sturdy.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:30
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All right then, the hand behind glass is Cumberbatch.
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Supercar Gautier posted:I know it's important to establish a firm sense of what's possible and avoid making your audience take too many leaps of faith in too many directions, but "A spaceship can't go in water!" is a strange thing to point to as being in any way egregious. I can accept Enterprise is capable of surviving spacey stuff. But terrestrial stuff, eh, to me that's pushing it. It's like how I could accept that Kirk was nailing an Orion woman at the Academy, but I completely lost my poo poo over the idea that Spock was nailing Uhura. Sorry, suspension of disbelief lost, error error, destroy all cryosleep systems.
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Aatrek posted:All right then, the hand behind glass is Cumberbatch. He's wearing a Starfleet uniform. Had there been any official word that he'd be playing a Starfleet officer before now?
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Dec 10, 2012 20:42
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Aatrek posted:All right then, the hand behind glass is Cumberbatch. Hey, now, shouldn't the brig have a force field?! What is this? Did they make it some futuristic transparent-aluminum like material just so they could have a scene where they put their hands on the glass? 
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Dec 10, 2012 20:43
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:He's wearing a Starfleet uniform. Had there been any official word that he'd be playing a Starfleet officer before now? Yeah, the trailer released last week showed a bit of him in uniform.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:48
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I can literally tune my nerd ears to the sperg frequency and hear some poor lord whining "COULD STILL BE KHAN COULD STILL BE KHAN"
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Dec 10, 2012 20:50
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Force fields jails are dumb idea anyways, just like the force field window in First Contact. Soon as the power's knocked out you'll have every yahoo running rampant around the ship in an already stressed situation.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:53
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:If structural integrity fields are so good, the ship should never get damaged. But it does, so there's limits to how far it can hold the ship together. The deflectors survive weapon hits measured in megatons. Meanwhile we've been building subs with our lovely technology for over a century. This argument isn't even "good" sperging.
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korusan posted:Force fields jails are dumb idea anyways, just like the force field window in First Contact. Soon as the power's knocked out you'll have every yahoo running rampant around the ship in an already stressed situation. I know, that's what's great about them. How else would Gul Dukat have escaped when he was being transported to earth for his trial?
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Dec 10, 2012 20:54
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sean10mm posted:The deflectors survive weapon hits measured in megatons. Meanwhile we've been building subs with our lovely technology for over a century. I believe he meant the main deflector array, not the shield system. As everyone knows, the main deflector array can be reconfigured to do just about anything.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:55
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Only if you reverse the polarity of the neutron flow, then tech the tech so we can tech tech the tech while we tech.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:57
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I can accept Enterprise is capable of surviving spacey stuff. But terrestrial stuff, eh, to me that's pushing it.
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Dec 10, 2012 21:00
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Dudes, the Enterprise will rust and stuff and then Scotty will have to fix all that and won't have time to drink green stuff and get framed for murder. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!
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Dec 10, 2012 21:01
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Yonic Symbolism posted:I think it's far more likely a suit will look at the most successful shows on TV and ask for a version of one to be set in space. Hence, I'm sure "game of thrones in space" is coming sooner or later. I believe this is called "Dune" in most civilized parts of the world.
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LitigiousChimp posted:It's a ship that can handle the stress of accelerating to FTL speeds without falling apart, why do you think a little water pressure would be too much for it? Sperg Answer: The Deflector Array basically makes the Enterprise shielded in a bubble, so the answer to your question is "water pressure shouldn't be an issue at all, provided the Deflector Array is still working."
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mind the walrus posted:Only if you reverse the polarity of the neutron flow, then tech the tech so we can tech tech the tech while we tech. One of my favorite parts of Star Trek is how sometimes an entire episode can revolve around the technical details of how they'll solve a problem but in the movies sometimes it just comes down to "Recreate the vortex." such as in First Contact.
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Some Other Guy posted:One of my favorite parts of Star Trek is how sometimes an entire episode can revolve around the technical details of how they'll solve a problem but in the movies sometimes it just comes down to "Recreate the vortex." such as in First Contact. It still irritates me how lazy the First Contact script is. Wait, who am I kidding? All of the TNG movie scripts were lazy.
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AlternateAccount posted:So am I an alpha-grade sperglord if the idea of the Enterprise being able to chill underwater like it's no big deal bothers the fuckin PISS out of me? If you are ever bothered by anything at all in a space movie, you are a sperglord. 
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sean10mm posted:The deflectors survive weapon hits measured in megatons. Meanwhile we've been building subs with our lovely technology for over a century. To replicate a liter-of-cola would take an energy output of approximately 9*10^16 J, that is 90 Petajoules. That is more than one thousand-fold greater than the yield of the Fat Man. One would assume that phaser fire makes even that kind of energy output look miniscule. I mean, I'm no expert on warfare, but it's probably a tad more vicious than lunch. The hulls that withstand this sort of abuse (and house the reactors to do all of it) are probably not too worried about a few Megapascals in pressure. Real answer: Star Trek is all about the serious realism, how dare you. Downward Spiral fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Dec 10, 2012 |
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Some Other Guy posted:Hey, now, shouldn't the brig have a force field?! What is this? Did they make it some futuristic transparent-aluminum like material just so they could have a scene where they put their hands on the glass? Where does he poop? 
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Zoe posted:Where does he poop? Where does anyone in Star Trek poop? There's not a single toilet anywhere in any of the series. I think there's only one toilet on the entire Enterprise D. My theory is that in the future we have evolved beyond pooping via technological means. Hey if you can just take a dialysis pill, why not?
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Zoe posted:Where does he poop? Out the airlock.
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Downward Spiral posted:To replicate a liter-of-cola would take an energy output of approximately 9*10^16 J, that is 90 Petajoules. That is more than one thousand-fold greater than the yield of the Fat Man. Replicators aren't direct energy-matter conversion, it's transporter trickery assembling molecules and poo poo from tanks full of matter and nobody knows how much energy a transporter takes.
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