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Chie and Yukiko's relationship is teased significantly less than Kanji or Naoto, so I don't see it extending much more past what's presented in the game. I could be wrong, though.THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Funny you brought up Edogawa's lectures because I'm pretty sure it's supposed to represent the collective unconscious. That's why in parts of it you see hundreds of rooms in the distance, and it doesn't have an obvious theme because it's not the mind of just one person like the others are. The symbolism might have gone right over my head though Technically, that's the ENTIRETY of the TV world, some sort of astral plane that represents the unconscious including all the dungeons and stuff. That said, I'm not 100% sure Yomotsu Hirasaka is in that world...
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Funny you brought up Edogawa's lectures because I'm pretty sure it's supposed to represent the collective unconscious. That's why in parts of it you see hundreds of rooms in the distance, and it doesn't have an obvious theme because it's not the mind of just one person like the others are. The symbolism might have gone right over my head though I don't think there's really more to it than that. It's the collective unconscious, which manifests itself as the underworld because the antagonists argue that everyone has essentially given in to meaninglessness and isolation and existential fog, or the death of the spirit.
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Zombies' Downfall posted:I don't think there's really more to it than that. It's the collective unconscious, which manifests itself as the underworld because the antagonists argue that everyone has essentially given in to meaninglessness and isolation and existential fog, or the death of the spirit. That, and the antagonist's identity being Izanami.
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Pollyanna posted:That, and the antagonist's identity being Izanami. Well yeah. I think part of the point is that she's projecting her own feelings onto everyone without actually being able to support that notion. Which would make it pretty much the same thing as all the other dungeons, except it's portraying the subconscious of a goddess rather than a teenager or little girl or serial killer. I'd never really looked at it that way. That's kinda neat.
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Well yeah. I think part of the point is that she's projecting her own feelings onto everyone without actually being able to support that notion. Which would make it pretty much the same thing as all the other dungeons, except it's portraying the subconscious of a goddess rather than a teenager or little girl or serial killer. I never saw it that way either.  That explains a lot, actually, like how it looks so alien 'n poo poo.
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Zombies' Downfall posted:I think the game handles that stuff about as well as it can in the context it takes place in, though I feel like there's a weird thing going with Naoto's story where the game is just as confused about whether she's transgendered or simply pretending to be more masculine for the sake of appearances as she's supposed to be. Yeah, I can get past a lot of the games confused presentation of sexuality and gender by reminding myself that the characters are in their mid-teens. I didn't have any of that poo poo figured out at that age, either, and there's plenty of time for them to find themselves beyond the scope of the game's story. And it's not as if the game suggests their "selves" at the end of the year are set in stone - it emphasizes that change is on-going. Which is true, and cool, and one of the things I really liked about the game. All of Yosuke's lovely remarks actually made me dislike him for awhile. It would have helped if the game was written with options for you to tell him to stop being a baby about it. I almost couldn't stand the game implying my agreement via silence.
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Zombies' Downfall posted:I think the game handles that stuff about as well as it can in the context it takes place in, though I feel like there's a weird thing going with Naoto's story where the game is just as confused about whether she's transgendered or simply pretending to be more masculine for the sake of appearances as she's supposed to be. On the topic of Naoto Much like Kanji, I don't think sex or sexuality is really the focus of Naoto's character arc. Is it possible Naoto is transgendered? Yeah (I'm leaning towards no, but it's certainly possible), but her personal narrative is about dealing with how much of a dick society is about gender roles and people who don't neatly fit them. Just like Kanji. Kanji's gayness or lackthereof is a red herring.
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Kanji's deal is mostly used as a joke, anyway. By the way, when is that Naoto novel coming out? As far as I can tell, it hasn't been translated or anything...
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Dec 10, 2012 08:20
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Hook posted:All of Yosuke's lovely remarks actually made me dislike him for awhile. It would have helped if the game was written with options for you to tell him to stop being a baby about it. I almost couldn't stand the game implying my agreement via silence. There are at least a few times where you can deliberately mess with his insecurities, like being really enthusiastic about the "Miss" Yasogami Pageant. I've never seen the anime, but in P4 Arena anyway it comes off like that was the intended relationship between Yosuke and the hero. There's a running bit in that game's story mode where the protagonist keeps picking at Yosuke for his preference in jerk-off material.
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Zombies' Downfall posted:There are at least a few times where you can deliberately mess with his insecurities, like being really enthusiastic about the "Miss" Yasogami Pageant. I was upset that in the anime you never just bragged about that time you totally banged an older, actual nurse when you found out that he was into nurse porn.
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TheJoker138 posted:I was upset that in the anime you never just bragged about that time you totally banged an older, actual nurse when you found out that he was into nurse porn. I was upset you couldn't literally mock Yosuke by correctly claiming every girl you meet is your girlfriend when he says his standard creepy bullshit.
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What slinks, if any, can you work on in the bonus time? I'm guessing the Dojimas, and both new slinks are out but what else?
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Sankis posted:What slinks, if any, can you work on in the bonus time? I'm guessing the Dojimas, and both new slinks are out but what else? All of them except the bonus links are available from what I saw. That includes the Dojimas.
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If that's true it's a huge relief. Though (end game) I still want to delay finishing Adachi's dungeon as long as possible, right? Edit: argh iOS auto correct
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Sankis posted:If that's true it's a huge relief. Though (end game) I still want to delay finishing Ada lchi's dungeon as long as possible, right? No, just until 12/23. If you complete the dungeon on the 24th you'll miss an event.
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King of Solomon posted:No, just until 12/23. If you complete the dungeon on the 24th you'll miss an event. I believe you have to finish the dungeon on the 22nd, to get the call on the 23rd, if you want that event. There's also a fusion event on either the 23rd or the 24th, that allows you to get a very good skill on a very good persona (Debilitate on Yoshisune). Thus you have to choose between the two, or you can have a separate save where you beat the boss before 12/23, so you can see the events.
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Yukari posted:There's also a fusion event on either the 23rd or the 24th, that allows you to get a very good skill on a very good persona (Debilitate on Yoshisune). e: Or you can give the card to Marie for further breaking purposes, but it costs 200,000 yen to buy back so at least you won't be putting that skill on everyone. DMorbid fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Dec 10, 2012 |
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Looks like I'll be finishing within the week. Also, Kanji is so drat adorable in January 
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Dr. Ohnoman posted:e: Or you can give the card to Marie for further breaking purposes, but it costs 200,000 yen to buy back so at least you won't be putting that skill on everyone. Just 200,000 for the best skill in the entire game? It's almost like they want me to put that skill on everyone.
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Haha, people's reactions to the main character going round dungeons in swim trunks are awesome, but Kanji's is the best. Something along the lines of "You just don't give a crap, do you?" Who was the joker who decided it would be funny for the item needed for the Hard Boots would have another similar sounding one in the same dungeon? It took me far too long to realise it was the wrong thing I was getting.
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Earlier in the thread it was suggested that on Easy and Very Easy, you can't fight the optional boss in a NG+. However now apparently in NG+ you can individually tweak things like exp and money gained after battles. Was it ever confirmed whether doing any of that affected whether you could fight the optional boss or not?
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Everytime you have the option to flirt with Kanji it freaks Yosuke out One of my favourite things in this game is taking all the ample opportunities to make Yosuke uncomfortable. Yosuke's a jerk and I love messing with him. Also, Kanji is amazing and I wish he was dateable. He can touch my ripped chest anytime. February spoilers I love the ski trip scene where Kanji is teaching Naoto to ski. Though I wish there was more I could do to push those 2 crazy kids together. Also, I love that the game gives you the option to tell a scary story that embarrasses Yosuke. It's the best.
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Nate RFB posted:Earlier in the thread it was suggested that on Easy and Very Easy, you can't fight the optional boss in a NG+. However now apparently in NG+ you can individually tweak things like exp and money gained after battles. Was it ever confirmed whether doing any of that affected whether you could fight the optional boss or not? I haven't tested it myself but I read that you can fight the optional boss on the easiest difficulty. Try at your own risk I guess
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I haven't tested it myself but I read that you can fight the optional boss on the easiest difficulty. Try at your own risk I guess
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Dr. Ohnoman posted:e: Or you can give the card to Marie for further breaking purposes, but it costs 200,000 yen to buy back so at least you won't be putting that skill on everyone. Speaking of amazing skills, does any Persona have Spell Master or Angelic Grace as a card?
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McDragon posted:Haha, people's reactions to the main character going round dungeons in swim trunks are awesome, but Kanji's is the best. Something along the lines of "You just don't give a crap, do you?" Putting all the dudes in nothing but bath towels is even better. Especially Yosuke's reaction. Having costumes carry over to NG+ also means new dialogue if you happen to put on stuff before their relevant events. It's like a tiny easter egg. Strange Quark fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Dec 10, 2012 |
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Schubalts posted:Speaking of amazing skills, does any Persona have Spell Master or Angelic Grace as a card? Shiva has Spell Master while Sraosha has Angelic Grace.
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Hey, do you think I should bother trying to kill the Reaper? (not sure if really spoilers.) Currently on 9/19. Here's my set-up right now: Protagonist, Yosuke, Yukiko, Teddie. I feel pretty confident that I can do it, but I figured I should get some opinions.
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Strange Quark posted:You can only get non-rank up events during the day. I'm guessing you don't have enough points for make it to the next rank yet, so you can either draw fortunes until you feel you'll become closer soon, or spend time with him during the day. I imagining Kanji, brow furrowed, his face 6 inches from the phone typing that out slowly with one finger.
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I'd say go for it. He's really difficult to find sometimes (I ended giving up looking for him on the very last day at level 99) and if you wipe, you can always restart the floor. It'd be a good test to see if you can even survive a Mind Charge -> Physical Attack -> Megidolaon. 
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Dr Pepper posted:Shiva has Spell Master while Sraosha has Angelic Grace. Man, I should've fused Sraosha before hitting NG+. Radish posted:I imagining Kanji, brow furrowed, his face 6 inches from the phone typing that out slowly with one finger. That's how I text. Texts must be grammatically correct, and I can not handle doing it with two fingers. Am I becoming Kanji? 
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Schubalts posted:That's how I text. Texts must be grammatically correct, and I can not handle doing it with two fingers. Am I becoming Kanji? I'm the exact same way, and it's probably why I can't stand texting. Also, what exactly does maintaining the garden do? I haven't wanted to waste time on it, but I don't actually know what benefits I'll get if I do.
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DarkHamsterlord posted:Also, what exactly does maintaining the garden do? I haven't wanted to waste time on it, but I don't actually know what benefits I'll get if I do. More produce, faster
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Rasamune posted:More produce, faster You also get slink points towards Nanako, as well as Dojima if he is home.
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DarkHamsterlord posted:Also, what exactly does maintaining the garden do? I haven't wanted to waste time on it, but I don't actually know what benefits I'll get if I do. To elaborate on what Rasamune said, maintaining the garden on any of the days before the last day before the vegetables are ready to be harvested will cut one day off the time left until they're ready. If you maintain the garden on the last day before they're ready to be harvested, then it'll double the amount you harvest. Cannot Find Server posted:You also get slink points towards Nanako, as well as Dojima if he is home. It also increases your Diligence. Also, earlier today I learned why it's better to just use Mind Charge + Megidolaon instead of Power Charge + Akasha Arts against the gold hands in Naoto's dungeon. 
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Speaking of those golden hands, has anyone else had the issue of one or two of them running off on their first turn? Because sometimes, the combat will go like the following. Preemptive Strike: Megidaolaon, anything, anything, anything. Hand uses masukukaja. 2 other hands instantly run away. MC megidaolaon for killing any remainders.
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Yukari posted:Speaking of those golden hands, has anyone else had the issue of one or two of them running off on their first turn? Because sometimes, the combat will go like the following. If you have a party member with ma/sukunda, use that and the hands will cast masukujaka twice, stopping one of them from running. Other than that, I think it just comes down to luck (or killing them in one turn).
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Is there any place to grab those screen protectors? Mine came basically split in half somehow in the mail and is useless.  Failing that, if anyone doesn't want theirs I'll take it off your hands for a few bucks/pounds plus postage.
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Yukari posted:Speaking of those golden hands, has anyone else had the issue of one or two of them running off on their first turn? Because sometimes, the combat will go like the following. I have found that if you do not use Megido/Megidolaon on your first turn, they will usually not run. My strategy when farming gold hands was Mind Charge with MC and Naoto, then matarukaja with whoever else I had and guard with the 4th. Turn 2, two Mind Charged Megidolaons with the added tarukaja, fight over.
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