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zonohedron posted:Well, what if Birgitte can find his dream - maybe with a dream ter'angreal that works for a nonchanneler? That said, it's hard to imagine what an infant's experience of T'A'R would be like... Huge clouds of tits all over the place. Every once in a while you have to dispel a nightmare that consists of a single loud clap.
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uruloki posted:He's the kid that is following Mat around. A good theory, but denied by RJ in one of his rare unequivocal answers. RJ at Dayton, OH book signing posted:Q: Is Olver Gaidal Cain? wellwhoopdedooo fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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Day #11? "One more thing, the marath'damane . . ." "I'll deal with those channelers personally," Mat said. She gawked at him as if he were insane.
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speculation/commentary I really think that Mat and Fortuona might develop a relationship of mutual respect , trust, and purhaps "near" equal power. In that they both trust that the other will be up to some scheme that either one will find distasteful, but still respect their intentions, however misguided. Sometimes Fortuona will have the upper hand due to the cultural barrier, and more Imperial might on her side (the house always wins). Other times it will be Mat, due to cultural misunderstandings, the fact that he's probably the only completely honest and open "Noble" the Seanchan have had for years, and he has the shear gall to suggest and pull off impossible and legendary deeds. Also he is the only one to make lady luck his bride both figuratively and literally (I love that her name's Fortuona). Everything else considered, I'd like to see if Mat might restore the Gardeners to their Ogier roots. Also, even though thematically it would be more appropriate for Perrin, I wonder if he finds the lost song of the Tuatha'an (perhaps a sung to the tune of the Horn?). Of all the satellite books I wished could have been written Mat and Tuon's restoration of Seanchan is the one that I wouldn't mind being taken on by another author, so long as enough of the notes were left to give it justice.
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api call girl posted:Day #11? Maybe they're talking about Black Ajah channelers?
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Recursive Expanse posted:speculation/commentary Oh, goddamnit. I know there's a lot of stuff in WoT to catch, but how did I miss that.
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On my reread, a couple of the puns make no sense unless everyone is speaking English, or at least a language with many words in common with English. It tickles me to think that there is all this talk of the Old Tongue, the knowledge of which is a mark of culture, when they are already speaking a language predating any such tongue and which is 7 000 years+ old.
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On the language thing. I know this probably isn't the case, but I might keep it in my own "fanfiction" cosmology to explain some of the weirdness and inconsistency with how the old tongue is treated in the earlier books as a seemingly magical language that can be spoken by old bloodlines with absolutely no explanation of why. I'd like to think that in the age of Legends or the preceding Age, that there were discoveries of talents and creation of Ter'angreal of such abstract composition that they could barely be perceived by people of the third age, much less understood even as Ter'angreal. I'm not sure if there are any other examples of such strange compositions (except perhaps the steddings or the ways). Still I like to think that the ancients were so powerful that they actually made a Ter'angreal out of language itself. By somehow tying it to the concept of language, or into the memories of people reborn, the Old tongue itself is a Ter'angreal of unkown purpose. Perhaps creating a unified language was a necessary step to world peace, or a way for the general populace to become more docile to the suggestions of the Aes Sedai ruling councils. If this could be the case, then the song of the Nhym and the Aiel might be another of these abstract Ter'angreal. One could be TAR, but I think that place serves another purpose as a constant throughout the ages. SO, theres that.
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Neurosis posted:On my reread, a couple of the puns make no sense unless everyone is speaking English, or at least a language with many words in common with English. It tickles me to think that there is all this talk of the Old Tongue, the knowledge of which is a mark of culture, when they are already speaking a language predating any such tongue and which is 7 000 years+ old. I always tell myself that the puns are translated, too, into analogous English puns.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I always tell myself that the puns are translated, too, into analogous English puns. As I understand it, this is, in fact, what actual translators try to do when they can. See Le Ton Beau de Moreau by Douglas Hofstadter for a really interesting take on the challenges of literary translation.
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See also "Hompen, eller En resa dit och tillbaksigen" ("The Hobbit, or A journey there and back again"), translated to Swedish by Tore Zetterholm, was the first non-English edition of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit (and thus the first translation of any work by Tolkien). Some other curiosities about Zetterholm's translation are his renderings of 'Bilbo' to 'Bimbo' 
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Day #12 "Enough talk. You will bed me now." Only 2 popular choices here, though we could go with Pevara and Androl.
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api call girl posted:Day #12 "Enough talk. You will bed me now." Two? Aviendha or... Min?, to Rand? Or did you have someone else in mind?
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zonohedron posted:Two? Aviendha or... Min?, to Rand? Or did you have someone else in mind? Mat and Tuon?
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Here's the second promotional video TOR has put together. They are saying there should be one more. Its a little sad to see them talk about his death though.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrfUoR4Z9Ig http://www.dragonmount.com/index.ph...onmount+News%29
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#13 "We must spread the word to all of our allies," Amys said. "We must not use this weave." Balefire? I think they'd have had warning enough not to use it by now though.
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api call girl posted:#13 "We must spread the word to all of our allies," Amys said. "We must not use this weave." It's either Balefire, or some completely new weave. I'm not sure if the wise ones were ever really aware of balefire, it was not even very well known in the tower, if I recall correctly.
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api call girl posted:#13 "We must spread the word to all of our allies," Amys said. "We must not use this weave." Aviendha and Elayne figured out how to reverse engineer the Ter'Dildo into its base weave.
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#14 That, she replied back, is something one should never, never say to an Aes Sedai. Ever.
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api call girl posted:#14 That, she replied back, is something one should never, never say to an Aes Sedai. Ever. Oh my, it's competition time, isn't it?
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api call girl posted:#14 That, she replied back, is something one should never, never say to an Aes Sedai. Ever. Hmm ... childish and petulant with a strong sense of entitlement. It's got to be Elayne.
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Gus Hobbleton posted:I'm closer to 15 years myself, but I feel the same way. I personally feel there's only one way the epilogue can truly close: I completely agree with this post here. In fact, I got a little choked up by how perfect it is. It's completely safe to hover over if you're trying for a blackout before release day.
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werdnam posted:Hmm ... childish and petulant with a strong sense of entitlement. It's got to be Elayne. On the other hand, she can't talk to anyone completely inside her head.
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api call girl posted:On the other hand, she can't talk to anyone completely inside her head. Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by that?
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There were no quotes, indicating that she wasn't speaking aloud. It could be something she's replying to by letter, perhaps to Mat. Leave it to Mat to say something to piss off an Aes Sedai queen and then shrug about it. *EDIT* Speaking of the writing style for mat, I want to know whether it was Jordan or Sanderson who had Mat use "Saidar" as a verb. For some reason that line made me laugh very hard.
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I went over to the "Dragonmount" forum for the first time in probably a decade and a really odd thread by one of the admins moaning about the Beta reading (I think) of Towers of Midnight and Sanderson in general. Does anyone have any idea what in the world that is about?
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Bizob posted:I went over to the "Dragonmount" forum for the first time in probably a decade and a really odd thread by one of the admins moaning about the Beta reading (I think) of Towers of Midnight and Sanderson in general. Does anyone have any idea what in the world that is about? I'm not entirely sure what was happening there, but if I were to hazard a guess, he read the beta and realized that Sanderson has a different writing style than RJ. To be fair I expected a Grade A flip out ages ago; Sanderson does have a very different writing style after all. Some of the discussion later in the thread indicated it was linked to some RJ versus Sanderson bullshit. Apparently this admin has done some other poo poo as well regarding this, but I wasn't gonna spend too much time hunting that down.
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#15 “It is a simple thing, to stop a man’s heart,” Cadsuane said, arms folded.
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caleramaen posted:I'm not entirely sure what was happening there, but if I were to hazard a guess, he read the beta and realized that Sanderson has a different writing style than RJ. To be fair I expected a Grade A flip out ages ago; Sanderson does have a very different writing style after all. Some of the discussion later in the thread indicated it was linked to some RJ versus Sanderson bullshit. Apparently this admin has done some other poo poo as well regarding this, but I wasn't gonna spend too much time hunting that down. So basically it's a bunch of 
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api call girl posted:#15 “It is a simple thing, to stop a man’s heart,” Cadsuane said, arms folded. [insert romcom laugh-track] Perhaps A Memory of Light will be the first 100% dedicated romance book in the series? 
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api call girl posted:#15 “It is a simple thing, to stop a man’s heart,” Cadsuane said, arms folded. Girl knows the sa'sara.
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posting from phone but, Leigh butler's spoiler free review of amol is up on tor.com
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Die-hard Wheel of Time fans are a strange lot. As someone who used to be a board admin on Dragonmount, I concur with this statement.
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api call girl posted:posting from phone but, Leigh butler's spoiler free review of amol is up on tor.com Here's the link for those you want to see: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/12/the-wheel-of-time-a-memory-of-light-spoiler-free-review
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terminal mehmet posted:Here's the link for those you want to see: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/12/the-wheel-of-time-a-memory-of-light-spoiler-free-review Holy Law of Conservation of Characters, Batman! When was the last time we saw ________, TGH? Heh. I'm guessing it is going to be Ingtar, it's been awhile but I don't remember seeing him die specifically. Who else could it be?
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calandryll posted:Holy Law of Conservation of Characters, Batman! When was the last time we saw ________, TGH? Heh. I'm guessing it is going to be Ingtar, it's been awhile but I don't remember seeing him die specifically. Who else could it be? Lots of characters haven't been on-screen since TGH--Agelmar for example, except for a one-mention cameo in TPoD prologue. He's with the Borderlander army right now and is way overdue for an appearance. The specific usage here seems to suggest a relatively minor character, though. Possibly the innkeeper woman outside Cairhien?
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Oh, good, "OH MY PEEPS" showed up in a "professional" book review. edit: ugh, yeah, don't bother with that review. It's just random out-of-context statements and SQUEEEEEEE for a few pages. Kinda useless. edit edit: O MY PEEPS shows up TWICE no less. FFS. AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Dec 11, 2012 |
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