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This was pretty interesting to me. 4-year vertical of Mad Elf. Look at the colors: That's from 2009 through this year, the color fades directly with age. You could graph that and it would be perfectly linear. Taste pretty much follows directly. The 2009, there's nothing in there but the honey, both in the nose and the taste. No cherry's left, no hop, very little malt, just...honey. It's like a mead except it's not cloying and awful. Also, it's the Happy Happy Joy Joy song:  Also: regarding the whole Westvleteren think, I really thing the 8 is a better dubbel than the 12 is a quad. Again, I'm not saying that the 12 isn't a world-class, top-notch beer, but the 8 is *perfect*. I really, really want to try the 6 some day. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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crazyfish posted:If you wind up at the tasting room in Tampa (about an hour away), I hear BA Big Sound (scotch ale) is really drat good. Ha. No, couldn't pull that off. But found a solid bottle shop and will be packing some stuff to take home on Friday. Drinking my first regular Jai Alai. This is insanely drinkable. More fruity than hoppy. I think I liked liked Humidor better, but I could see myself drinking this every summer day for the rest of my life.
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Small 2 man beer session tonight: Dissident O'Dell Meddler GI Juliet Boulevard Rye-on-Rye Maybe some BCBS to finish, but I doubt we'll be in the mood or condition for that.
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Is Goose Island's Christmas any good? I trust what they do (unlike River Horse)
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Jahoodie posted:Is Goose Island's Christmas any good? I trust what they do (unlike River Horse) I drank it tonight, very disappointed. There's nothing Christmas about this it has a sharp caramel and vegetable mid-taste. I'm glad I only bought a single. Arnold of Soissons posted:That's the story I've heard from a number of places, including Brew Like A Monk. The brewers at Bernardus say the same thing, though obviously their information about what is happening at Westvleteren is less perfect than their information about what they're doing in house. Personally I think they're both very fine, but I think Rochefort 10 clearly is the best of class. I agree Rochefort 10 is my favorite, at least between ABT 12 and Rochefort 10. I think it's fantastic.
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Midorka posted:I drank it tonight, very disappointed. There's nothing Christmas about this it has a sharp caramel and vegetable mid-taste. I'm glad I only bought a single. So skip it and hope to score a Kane 365?
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wattershed posted:Palm Springs liquor and Windy City both are overflowing with OR XV, and Palm's got a few bottles of 14 left too. Nobody looks up in that store...it's where some of the best things go. I got some XV by just going to the Bristol Farms (they had a random Pliny the Elder there too, so I grabbed it while I was there), but they were out of Abyss already. I didn't see any Abyss at any other places until I went to the one closest to my house, and I got exactly one bottle.
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Jahoodie posted:So skip it and hope to score a Kane 365? I bought a Kane 365 tonight, will be drinking soon. I've read good things.
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SnowDog posted:malty rich dark beers. Edit: Ignore this, I misread your post. Have you tried Berkshire Brewery's Coffeehouse Porter, though? Doesn't exactly fit the bill in your case, but it's one of their best I think, and better than any of the other local west mass dedicated dark beers. IGotMine fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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I am on the world's craziest Imperial Stout kick ever. I've got practically every stout there is to buy in town and I'd almost be embarassed to show people the volume and expense of the stuff I've been hoarding in the last few weeks.
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Angry Grimace posted:I am on the world's craziest Imperial Stout kick ever. I've got practically every stout there is to buy in town and I'd almost be embarassed to show people the volume and expense of the stuff I've been hoarding in the last few weeks. You can't just post that and then not show us. 
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Midorka posted:Not that many people know of River Horse, nor would most people here consider drinking their beers if they came to their area, but I have to say avoid any Belgian beer they make. I'm guessing they have no idea how fermentation temps work, or have no temperature control and always ferment too high, but all of their Belgian beers are loving banana liquor tasting bombs. Absolutely gross, I drain poured their Tripel last night and did the same with their Belgian Freeze a week ago. Arnold of Soissons posted:that's odd, as I recall the Freeze was the only thing they made that I thought was decent enough to have a second time. My best friends live in Lambertville/New Hope, so this discussion is somewhat relevant to my interests, given that I'm out drinking there at least 1 weekend of every month.  River Horse - Agreed that their tasting room is small and cramped as hell but I give them credit for the fact that it is consistently still to overflowing. Also their tasting pours are like 2 oz for $1, not sure where you got the whole 'regular bar price pours' thing from. I have the same banana issue as Midorka does with their Tripel, and everyone thinks I'm crazy for it. Go figure. I'm actually going to be at their stout release party this coming Saturday, because what the hell, it's cheap and they throw good parties. But of course it's not that awesome to visit normally, it's a working (and highly overtaxed) brewery with a tiny tasting room so people don't walk away disappointed. (also they probably can't sell bottles for cheaper than market price because of distributor laws or something, I remember they couldn't start selling bottles of their new release till after their distributors had it in NJ) Triumph - I wish I liked their beers a bit more than I did. When I started drinking beer I thought this place was the poo poo and was getting a growler of whatever at every opportunity. Lately I've cooled off a bit towards them, but the main advantage of that place is that they have enough variety in their beer that I can generally find something I like. Overall this place is a great choice for food and trying lots of good beer, if you're in the New Hope area check it out.  about New Hope/Lambertville, holy crap.
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Podima posted:River Horse - Agreed that their tasting room is small and cramped as hell but I give them credit for the fact that it is consistently still to overflowing. Also their tasting pours are like 2 oz for $1, not sure where you got the whole 'regular bar price pours' thing from. Tiny and packed is worse than just tiny, to me. But yeah, people do turn up for it. I would be proud of the crowds they pull in if I were them. A buck for a tasting glass is a totally fair price. I remember the prices being something like $5 per beer or $6 for a tasting flight of 4 beers. If full beers are $5ish then I still think that's a bit rich. My gripe with the tasting thing wasn't the price, it was that it didn't include anything but their standard year-rounds and those aren't very good. Just for the record, I think I bought at least one pack of every River Horse I ever saw on the shelves, just because they were local.
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Random (non-beer) people in my office keep coming up to me to ask "did you buy that special beer that was released today???" They mean Westvleteren, which wasn't even released in my state. I have no idea how they are even finding out about it. 
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Sirotan posted:Random (non-beer) people in my office keep coming up to me to ask "did you buy that special beer that was released today???" They mean Westvleteren, which wasn't even released in my state. I have no idea how they are even finding out about it. there was a story on NPR about it this morning
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cryme posted:there was a story on NPR about it this morning yeah, i heard that and was like, "oh, yeah, that's something i'm not doing today!" maybe if i hadn't had it before, but my friend got one of the cases that was up in NY/NE a few months back, so i've been fortunate enough to scratch that itch a few times.
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cryme posted:there was a story on NPR about it this morning Oh, yeah, that's probably it then. Kinda glad it wasn't released in Michigan, I probably would have tried to buy one. I've got two bottles of it sitting around now that I've not drank yet. I keep telling myself that I'll try some other trappists/quads first so I can better appreciate them. Edit: Wasn't the Westy release supposed to happen months ago? Or was it always going to be today? I only just realized its the Westy 12 and its 12/12/12. 
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Podima posted:Triumph - I wish I liked their beers a bit more than I did. When I started drinking beer I thought this place was the poo poo and was getting a growler of whatever at every opportunity. Lately I've cooled off a bit towards them, but the main advantage of that place is that they have enough variety in their beer that I can generally find something I like. Overall this place is a great choice for food and trying lots of good beer, if you're in the New Hope area check it out. What I liked about Triumph's Princeton location is that it's a nice safe area, and the brewpub itself is very clean and modern feeling, it definitely feels like the kind of place you're going to spend at least $45 for two people, not including tip. I though it was awesome they had 8 4 ounce pours for something like $8? I can't remember but I tried every beer they had on tap as a sampler and thought, "wow that's not bad at all." Maybe it was $12, I'm not sure. The thing I didn't like though is that we got stuck in a room where the loving Yankees were playing and all the loving rich yuppies there, drinking the honey wheat beer nonetheless, were cheering for the loving Yankees. I mean come on does it ever get old cheering for those fuckers? Iron Hill Maple Shade has the absolute best sweet potato fries in this world though and the vanilla bourbon sauce they give you, along with a buffalo and habanero, is like candy. I could eat those til I die.
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Got called by the local TW last night that my 4 Olde Hickory Event Horizons came in, so now I'm going to head there during lunch. If they still have Westy available it's going to be hard to pass up. Did you see that someone's already trying to sell the empty Westy box for $230?
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Retemnav posted:Got called by the local TW last night that my 4 Olde Hickory Event Horizons came in, so now I'm going to head there during lunch. If they still have Westy available it's going to be hard to pass up. quote:This auction is for a box that once contained the highly sought after Westvleteren XII. An empty box, but including the glasses and everything else that was in the box. So, an empty box, full of stuff. Sounds to me like he's just trying to sneak past the eBay alcohol prohibition.
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Really enjoying the Port Brewing Santa's Little Helper. I'd never had it until I sprung for the barrel aged version, which was amazing, and just had the regular version, which is a fantastic imperial stout.
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NJ Goons: Huffington Post or some random website did the best beer from each state, and New Jersey's winner was Ramstein's Double Platinum Blonde. Discuss.
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swickles posted:Sup bithces? didnt you already post that pic a weed ago  furthermore, if you arent having a raffle for who in this thread gets to buy the other one from you, or aren't giving/selling the other set to a friend, you're a piece of poo poo i bet it's good though 
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Glottis posted:Really enjoying the Port Brewing Santa's Little Helper. I'd never had it until I sprung for the barrel aged version, which was amazing, and just had the regular version, which is a fantastic imperial stout. I think it ages pretty nicely. I did a review of 9 month bottle last year and enjoyed the more sweet notes of it, while fresher (3 months) is a bit too strong of dark chocolate and molasses.
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TenaciousTomato posted:didnt you already post that pic a weed ago One is mine and the other is my buddy's, but we might be up for trades. I just took the picture this morning, maybe you are confusing me with someone else?
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I didn't realize that the boxes didn't come with the normal Westvleteren glasses. e: 
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Since I live in PA, the land of no fun I had a friend in Portland run out to a nearby store this morning to try and score me one of the Westy 12 gift boxes. He managed to pick up the last one, so I'm pretty psyched. I have missed out on a couple opportunities to try 8 before so I was not going to let this one get away.
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swickles posted:One is mine and the other is my buddy's, but we might be up for trades. My fault, I had serious de-ja-vu when I read your post for some reason 
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Retemnav posted:Got called by the local TW last night that my 4 Olde Hickory Event Horizons came in, so now I'm going to head there during lunch. If they still have Westy available it's going to be hard to pass up. Welp, the Winston TW had about 20 still, so I now have an awesome xmas gift to myself.
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I'd consider giving up my lifestyle to be a monk and drink that brew every day.
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Retemnav posted:Welp, the Winston TW had about 20 still, so I now have an awesome xmas gift to myself. I'm not super surprised that they still had some - its Belgian and expensive.
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Element1290 posted:I'd consider giving up my lifestyle to be a monk and drink that brew every day. I'm pretty sure all they do is pray, brew, and paint all day. Every. Day.
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Sirotan posted:Oh, yeah, that's probably it then. I had the option to reserve a brick ahead of time and decided not to do it. Can't justify the money for a full six pack (drat you Shane for not splitting it with me), when I've already had it three times and didn't find it that mind-blowing.
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air- posted:I'm pretty sure all they do is pray, brew, and paint all day. Every. Day. I said drink, not paint... Guess I'll just keep waiting to find some Westy here.
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I'm a little confused about the Westy sale, actually. Reputable places that weren't on that list clearly have bricks for sale and are advertising them.
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RiggenBlaque posted:Maybe they expanded the program to more stores after that list was generated The list was only published on the 3rd - San Diego had two stores listed as selling, but I just saw an ad from Bottlecraft showing their bricks and advertising them.
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