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Ror posted:I hear about his brilliance all the time and would love to give him a shot, but I haven't found any real good starting places. I've seen his bit about Top Gear that people link constantly and he seems witty and acerbic but I guess I don't see any glimmers of the genius people talk about. I'd like to assume he has much tighter material than that though. I think Stewart Lee is quite an intimidating comedian to get into. He's not particularly accessible and and reflir said some of the jokes are traps, and alot of the time your not sure if he's actually making fun of you. My first experience with him was on Paramount Comedy with "Stand Up comedian" to be honest I didn't really care for it, I caught it again probably about a year later and loved it. But no, he doesn't really do "jokes" and when he does most of the time it's in making fun of other stand-ups. The reason I ask what he's thought of in the US is because a lot of his material is a commentary of the state of the British stand up scene. He actually slams Bill Hicks in Carpet Remnant world, although I'm sure that's one of the "traps". For the record I could never get into Bill Hicks either.
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He doesn't "slam" Bill Hicks. At best he has a little dig at his fans.
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Tea Bone posted:and like reflir said some of the jokes are traps, That was a joke. In fact, it was Stewart Lee's joke, from Carpet Remnant World. He's really funny and insightful, but you have to listen to what he's saying. There's a bit in Carpet Remnant World where he tells one part of the audience why the other part of the audience is laughing, and I thought yes, that's exactly why I'm laughing right now, and it made me laugh even harder. If I'd been doing something else with the show on in the background it just would've passed me by. A lot of his jokes are like that. You have to pay attention, and then when you do, it's really good. Like the Bill Hicks bit. It's not a Bill Hicks bit, it's a bit about the Bill Hicks mythos. Which he lampoons, because it's something that's sprung from not really caring, not really paying attention, just having something to say to fit in, and that's what's worth mocking.
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Dec 6, 2012 11:01
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jyrka posted:He doesn't "slam" Bill Hicks. At best he has a little dig at his fans. Yeah sorry I could have phrased that alot better. reflir posted:That was a joke. In fact, it was Stewart Lee's joke, from Carpet Remnant World.
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Dec 6, 2012 14:25
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I imagine his loathing for Top Gear is genuine, however. Which is cool, even though I like the show.
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Dec 6, 2012 17:30
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My favourite part about Stew's routine is that he absolutely knows what works and why it does, probably meaning the show will be very different by the end of the run compared to the first night. He uses his knowledge of how the audience will react to his advantage and manages to spin jokes into insane meta comedy. Doctor Candiru posted:At the very least, go to Whiplash at the UCB on Monday nights. If you're in a not-strictly-stand-up mood, check out either ASSSSCAT show on Sundays. Sadly, the only Sunday I'm in town I'll be at Wrestlemania which is a different kind of comedy in itself, but I'll certainly look up Whiplash. Cheers!
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Dec 6, 2012 20:20
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At this point Stew could probably say anything on stage and it'd get a huge laugh.
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Dec 6, 2012 20:50
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I'm not a fan of those controlled breakdown segments he does, though. Those are just dumb, because the punch line is 'get it' and nothing else instead of a laugh.
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Is there a better way to legally watch Carpet Remnant World in the US than importing the Region 2 DVD from Amazon.co.uk? Now I know how people outside the US feel when trying to buy practically any digital stuff.
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Dec 6, 2012 23:45
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One of the reasons I love Stewart Lee is the books he's released like his autobiography which include his routines verbatim - but with footnotes!!! Reflections on the joke, how the joke evolved, its really interesting stuff. He also had a DVD commentary on his first series which was sadly missing from the second.
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I just watched a few minutes of Kevin Nealon's recent special on Netflix and  I know he wasn't always the funniest dude but now I can best describe his act as coked up dadjokes. What happened?
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Shunkymonky posted:One of the reasons I love Stewart Lee is the books he's released like his autobiography which include his routines verbatim - but with footnotes!!! Reflections on the joke, how the joke evolved, its really interesting stuff. This. The book is incredible and a way of approaching a 'comedy book' that I hadn't seen before.
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Darkwing Duck posted:This. It's funny as hell too, and I wasn't familiar with the UK's alt comedy scene.
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Stewart Lee is also amazingly insightful and intelligent. His bit about 'reverse racism gone mad' is 100% cross-culturally applicable to America.
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Dec 9, 2012 18:17
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Anybody into Sheng Weng? I've only seen about 30 minutes combined from a few of his sets, but he's consistently hilarious. Hope he gets his own 1-hour special soon. Also, for those that don't know, Anthony Jeselnik is getting a 1-hour special on CC-- it's airing in January, and will be released on DVD a few days later. Al! posted:I just watched a few minutes of Kevin Nealon's recent special on Netflix and I don't ever remember him being good at stand-up. Weekend Update and character acting is where he excelled. A few years ago, I was so excited for one of his specials, and turned it off because of how bad it was (possibly the one you saw). Maarak posted:Sometimes twitter is just perfect: https://twitter.com/JimNorton/status/276122153684975616 There's something charming about Jimmy Norton always taking pictures of himself with famous people. He's reasonably famous, but he still gets off on meeting celebrities whose work he enjoys, just like any one of us would.  One thing I could have done without was his story about his threesome with Ron Jeremy.
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Dec 12, 2012 11:05
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Comedic actors turning to stand-up late in their careers is practically a tradition by now, and they're not getting any better at it. People will pay to see a name they've heard before, even if that person has never been known for stand-up comedy.
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Maarak posted:Comedic actors turning to stand-up late in their careers is practically a tradition by now, and they're not getting any better at it. People will pay to see a name they've heard before, even if that person has never been known for stand-up comedy. I'm not doubting you-- but what are some examples? I think of Bob Saget and Kevin Nealon off hand.
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escape artist posted:I'm not doubting you-- but what are some examples? I think of Bob Saget and Kevin Nealon off hand. Bad examples: both of them started out doing stand-up.
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Dec 12, 2012 12:13
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escape artist posted:I'm not doubting you-- but what are some examples? I think of Bob Saget and Kevin Nealon off hand. Michael Richards and Dave Foley come to mind, although I've heard Foley is getting much better. ibntumart posted:Bad examples: both of them started out doing stand-up. They started off during the comedy boom and found fame in other mediums so I'm not sure that counts.
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Dec 12, 2012 12:22
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Maarak posted:They started off during the comedy boom and found fame in other mediums so I'm not sure that counts. While I don't care about Nealon one way or the other, I do think Saget gets unfairly picked on, so allow me to  a bit. You were talking about comedic actors who turned to stand-up later in life, right? Saget may have lucked out and got a sitcom deal, then the America's Funniest Home Videos gigs, but he did put in time as a stand-up and he knows what he's doing. I wouldn't put him on my top ten list, but the routines I've watched have got a few laughs out of me. He is at the least a competent comedian and got that way because he started out doing stand-up. Though I don't know how much touring, if any, he did while hosting either show. (I'd imagine not much as his routines were definitely not family friendly and probably wouldn't go over well with the people who knew him from his shows.)Nealon I don't know that much about, but I know he did at least some touring as a stand-up even while a regular on SNL. I also remember he used to pop up on A&E's Evening at the Improv every now and then.
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Ah, well, thanks for the clarification re: Nealon and Saget. Michael Richards is definitely a prime example. edit: How about fuckin' Steve-O?
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Steve-o's rap career is way funnier than his comedy.
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jyrka posted:Steve-o's rap career is way funnier than his comedy. Ironically? Or legitimately?
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escape artist posted:Ironically? Or legitimately? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9ad9L3zw8 It's hysterical.
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Dec 12, 2012 19:44
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jyrka posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9ad9L3zw8 That's just his appearance on the Stern Show, and he was obnoxious as always. What's a good song or two to give me a decent sample?
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Dec 12, 2012 19:56
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Sorry that's all I know about his rapping.
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Dec 12, 2012 21:13
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TJ Miller and Don Glover are legitimately solid rappers.
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escape artist posted:TJ Miller and Don Glover are legitimately solid rappers. You can add Hannibal to that list. https://soundcloud.com/tony-trimm/hannibal-buress-gibberish-rap
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escape artist posted:TJ Miller and Don Glover are legitimately solid rappers. That's loving hilarious! I've got Glover, but I never would have suspected TJ Miller's big goofy rear end and weird loving voice. It'll take a minute, but I think I could get used to it.
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Ariza posted:That's loving hilarious! I've got Glover, but I never would have suspected TJ Miller's big goofy rear end and weird loving voice. It'll take a minute, but I think I could get used to it. Yeah, he's got an album on Itunes. Doesn't even sound like himself, either, when he raps.
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The extended play ep is pretty great. The battle rap part 2 where pete holmes kedps calling him Meryl is hilarious. Also if you really enjoyed it you can listen to the remix cd and get more traction out of the material
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I got into an argument today with a moron because I named like 12 good stand-up (female) comics, and 6 or so good (female) comedic writers. He claimed I thought every comic ever was good. Despite naming at least a half dozen (female) comics that I can't stand. Utter moron.
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Dec 14, 2012 23:48
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List them all and we'll see who the moron is. 
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Just off the top of my head since I think the post was deleted: Notaro, Silverman, Schumer, (Morgan) Murphy, Peretti, Garafalo, Garfunkel and Oates, (Joan) Rivers, (Kristen) Schaal, Leggero, Bamford... the good ones, of course. Crappy would be: Wanda Sykes, Ilisa Schlesinger, Whitney Cummings, Sandra Bernhard, Chelsea Handler I'm not even counting comedic actresses or sketch comics or writers, either. I could add to both lists with them.
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escape artist posted:Just off the top of my head since I think the post was deleted: Notaro, Silverman, Schumer, (Morgan) Murphy, Peretti, Garafalo, Garfunkel and Oates, (Joan) Rivers, (Kristen) Schaal, Leggero, Bamford... the good ones, of course. Where would Jackie Kashian fall for you?
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who's your crawdaddy posted:Where would Jackie Kashian fall for you? Not familiar with her work, so I can't make a decision, but I've heard good things
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I don't have a problem with Cummings in the same way people here apparently don't have a problem with Ralphie May. Yeah she does a lot hacky material but she's good at what she does. Couldn't pay me to watch Whitney though. Also your "crappy" list is missing Lisa "I hosed a black guy so now I can be as lazily racist as I want" Lampinelli.
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Sandra Bernhard owns, you fail. I like Wanda Sykes too. I got bored with Garfunkel and Oates very quickly. People should dig Paula Poundstone more. FitFortDanga fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Dec 15, 2012 |
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I loved Laura Kightlinger's stuff on Pulp Comics but I haven't heard hair nor hair of her since.
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