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I have never been a comics person until quite recently, and in the last couple of years I've read some amazing books and now I want some recommendations. Lately I've read Maus, which was brilliant (as was Metamaus). I also bought and adored the 1400-page complete Bone paperback. I reread Watchmen (first read it 5+ years ago) and I liked it although I'm not into superheroes generally. I've been following Dial H but to be honest I wouldn't have picked it up if it wasn't written by my favourite author, China Miéville. One other favourite of mine I've had for years is Pride of Baghdad. Very recently (and what made me post this): • I borrowed Blacksad from a friend and loved it so much that I went out and bought my own copy of the hardcover, as well as the sequel. It's just so drat good. I love the noirish feel, the use of animals, the artwork, the characters, everything about it. • On a whim, and because they were AUD$12 each (which is super loving cheap for comic paperbacks in Australia) I bought the first trade paperbacks of Saga and Prophet and hoo boy, am I glad I did. Saga was great, like Star Wars but more adult and better written. But goddamn, Prophet blew my mind. I have never read any other sci-fi like it, whether comics or novels or anything. I cannot wait for the second trade paperback, whenever the hell that comes out. So can someone please recommend me some trade paperbacks/graphic novels along the lines of - a) Saga and Prophet, with sci-fi and aliens and awesomeness (PS: I tried the Mass Effect comics because I love the games, but by god they are poo poo comics), and - b) Blacksad — anything similar to this I am not into superheroes, Walking Dead, or manga. Thanks! edit: bold bold bold sorry
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Dec 13, 2012 09:58
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Blacksad is kind of tricky because there really aren't a whole lot of things like it. Maybe look at some of Darwyn Cooke's Parker books. They're kind of at the very opposite end of the spectrum, art wise, but it's still solid cartooning and storytelling with a good crime story along with it. Maybe from there Brubaker's Criminal stuff. David Lapham's Stay Bullets too, as much of it as you can find. If you liked Prophet then you'd probably like Brandon Graham's other stuff. King City is a monster of a book for very cheap. If you want to drop some coin then you should get the Incal by Alejandro Jodorowsky and Moebius. Thinking about this made me realize I have basically zero sci fi alien comics without superheroes. Weird. And here's my totally unsolicited, unwanted recommendation for Pluto by Naoki Urasawa. It's a sci-fi detective story about robots that loosely follows the plot of Astro Boy. It's basically brilliant.
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Dec 13, 2012 12:36
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Hedrigall posted:So can someone please recommend me some trade paperbacks/graphic novels along the lines of There aren't any major aliens that I can remember, but you might want to check out Alan Moore's The Ballad of Halo Jones. The only real issue is that it's unfinished and likely to ever be finished, but it's still very much a worthwhile read, even though it is stunted at like a quarter of what it should be. Long shot recommendations would be Planetary (despite having some superheroics to it) and The Manhattan Projects, which is a bit...bizarre.
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Dec 13, 2012 15:19
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The recommendations for Planetary and the Manhattan Project are both spot on if you really enjoyed Prophet Hedrigall. I would also look at some European science fiction. You would probably enjoy Judge Dredd , there are lots of trade collections for it. The Incal maybe a bit too psychedelic and awesome to go straight to from Prophet, so I would recommend Enki Bilal. He's a French artist who has done a lot of good gritty science fiction and mystery books. Look at things he's done like the Nikopol Trilogy, and Exterminateur 17. This is the set up for the Nikopol Trilogy. quote:The central plot of the trilogy, set in 2023 Paris, follows Alcide Nikopol who returns from a 30 year sentence spent orbiting the earth under cryopreservation to find France under fascist rule following two nuclear wars.
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Dec 13, 2012 15:35
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There's a big interview over at ComicsAlliance with Joe Keatinge and Ross Campbell about the end of Glory, including the description of an absolutely insane aborted story arc about Glory owning a cow farm.
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Dec 13, 2012 16:50
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Darth Nat posted:There's a big interview over at ComicsAlliance with Joe Keatinge and Ross Campbell about the end of Glory, including the description of an absolutely insane aborted story arc about Glory owning a cow farm. Wow. Ross Campbell thinks he only made about $2000 in 2010. Wet Moon is so good too 
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Dec 13, 2012 16:56
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Is Glory ending or is a new team taking over?
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Dec 13, 2012 18:10
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On the opposite end of Halo Jones is Moore's D.R. and Quinch. I like to explain it as Sam & Max in space with sardonic British humor. And on the opposite end of Blacksad is the work of Jason. His style is taking cartoon "funny animals" and putting them in serious dramas. The cartoon characters and frank depictions of violence and sex make them humorous in a very dry way. I can't explain it other than by saying you have to read Jason to get Jason. My personal favorites are Hey, Wait..., I Killed Adolf Hitler, and The Last Musketeer. Hermes Press recently released a collection of Gray Morrow's Orion. This is almost literally Errol Flynn in space with fantastic art. It's a pulp adventure so expect a lot of text and very little inter-character development a la Saga but if you like the concept of SWASHBUCKLERS IN SPAAACE then it's a good buy. I wish Druillet's work was in print and in English, especially Urm. I see a few books on Amazon that I don't recognize and I'm not willing to bite the bullet just yet. Druillet did the kind of stuff Prophet did 40 years ago. They're very "alien" works of sci-fi like Moebius except less "human" if that makes any sense. The man loved intricate drawings of alien architecture, grotesque characters designs, people wandering around harsh landscapes, and detailed double page spreads.
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Dec 13, 2012 19:00
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:Is Glory ending or is a new team taking over? As far as the current team knows, it's ending.
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Dec 13, 2012 21:39
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Yeah there's no way somebody else takes over Glory. The book got a price increase to try and keep it afloat for this long and even then it only managed to last another few months. It's really a shame too. The book manages to take a lot of crazy stuff that shouldn't work, like Glory herself, the ultra-violence and sex, and does them fantastically but for whatever reason nobody is buying it. The worst part though is that as great as Ross Campbell is I can't see a lot of companies (especially the big two) wanting his style.
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Dec 14, 2012 13:58
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At least he doesn't seem to have much of a desire to work for DC or Marvel in the first place and is pretty happy to just do his creator-owned stuff (financial issues aside). Now, if Marvel offered him a Sleepwalker or Marrow title, I imagine he might reconsider...
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Dec 14, 2012 15:28
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Just read Change #1 and I'm blown away. I really wish I could put a description on what is going on but it's sort of like Manhatten Projects meets the coherent parts of Mulholland Dr with some Lovecraft sprinkled in. Bummed it's only a 1 of 4 but maybe that's just the right amount. loving great though. I love schizo comics like this.
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Dec 15, 2012 19:39
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I'm blown away by how stupid the dialog is, particuarly the "nnn...rear end in a top hat" line.
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Dec 16, 2012 02:43
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Dickeye posted:I'm blown away by how stupid the dialog is, particuarly the "nnn...rear end in a top hat" line. From Change?
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Dec 16, 2012 02:49
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Adam Strange posted:From Change? Yes.
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Dec 16, 2012 03:35
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Change was...I'm not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand, I like some craziness, but on the other hand, I almost felt like it wasn't quite crazy enough? And yeah, the dialogue was a little iffy. I'll stick with it, but I'm not sold yet.
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Dec 16, 2012 03:41
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I haven't picked it up yet (waiting for me on Wednesday) but I'm willing to bet the "nnn..." line is an attempt at a Morrison-esque onomatopoeia. I know Ales Kot's previous comic (Wild Children) was characterized by a lot of people, including himself, as a didactic mishmash of The Invisibles, Kill Your Boyfriend, and Riot At Xavier's. Probably gonna pick up all four even if I don't like the words though - Jeske hits that Paul Pope sweet spot. 
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Dec 16, 2012 03:57
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Adam Strange posted:I haven't picked it up yet (waiting for me on Wednesday) but I'm willing to bet the "nnn..." line is an attempt at a Morrison-esque onomatopoeia. Then it's a particularly horrible one, because the line is literally "W-2 (the black rapper character) is a nn...rear end in a top hat."
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Dec 16, 2012 19:45
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Dickeye posted:Then it's a particularly horrible one, because the line is literally "W-2 (the black rapper character) is a nn...rear end in a top hat." Yeah, did you not get what was going on there? Because it seemed pretty clear to me exactly why it was said. No attempt at Morrison's "tt" or "hh" or whatever, just labeling the creepy old white dude as a racist.
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Dec 17, 2012 00:53
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I'm really interested in Queen and Country by Greg Rucka: one of my favorite comic writers. It must be a rare series because I can't find it in any of my local comic shops. How good is the series?
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Dec 17, 2012 01:21
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Benny the Snake posted:I'm really interested in Queen and Country by Greg Rucka: one of my favorite comic writers. It must be a rare series because I can't find it in any of my local comic shops. How good is the series?
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Dec 17, 2012 01:56
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Benny the Snake posted:I'm really interested in Queen and Country by Greg Rucka: one of my favorite comic writers. It must be a rare series because I can't find it in any of my local comic shops. How good is the series? The "definitive editions" are still in print.
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Dec 17, 2012 02:55
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Benny the Snake posted:I'm really interested in Queen and Country by Greg Rucka: one of my favorite comic writers. It must be a rare series because I can't find it in any of my local comic shops. How good is the series? I liked it a whole lot, it's pretty solid action/drama. I remember there being some really cool art in there, too.
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Dec 17, 2012 02:59
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Keep in mind that a major plot point for the story, with huge ramifications for one character, happens during Rucka's Q&C novesl. You don't necessarily have to read the prose since the comics sort of explains it in vague flashbacks, but the novels will help make sense of what exactly went down.
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Dec 17, 2012 03:54
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For their Christmas sale stuff Comixology are giving away Multiple Warheads: Alphabet To Infinity #1 for free for the next few hours. It's 50 pages of Brandon Graham doing his stuff and it is really great.
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Dec 18, 2012 22:40
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Thank you! For some reason, the iPad app wanted to charge me for it so I had to go to the website to get it. Does comiXology often do really short sales like this that don't hit the mobile apps?
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Dec 18, 2012 22:58
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Waterhaul posted:For their Christmas sale stuff Comixology are giving away Multiple Warheads: Alphabet To Infinity #1 for free for the next few hours. This was my first exposure to Brandon Graham, and it has definitely ensured I'm grabbing the King City trade I saw at my university town's local shop when I get back from winter break. Is enjoying Multiple Warheads more or less indicative that I'll enjoy the rest of his work?
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Dec 19, 2012 01:27
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RandallODim posted:This was my first exposure to Brandon Graham, and it has definitely ensured I'm grabbing the King City trade I saw at my university town's local shop when I get back from winter break. Is enjoying Multiple Warheads more or less indicative that I'll enjoy the rest of his work? Pretty much? Prophet isn't in the same vein at all, really. It's much less humorous, but I think most people love it. After King City, you've got books like Escalator and some of his porn comics (some of which are hard to find, though he was talking with Image about reprinting them), and then he's got scattered things here and there (like an 8 page story in DHP). He also has an art/sketchbook coming out next year called Walrus.
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Dec 19, 2012 02:08
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My buddy Tim is a pretty talented artist, everyone should check out his work and maybe buy something! http://www.timbaron.com/store.html
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Dec 19, 2012 04:56
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Unfit For Space posted:Thank you! This "12 Days of Free Comics" sale is web-only. Most sales are available in-app.
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Dec 19, 2012 10:57
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Saga this week was great. I feel so bad for Marko's Dad. Oh and Marko's ex is back. Does Brian K Vaughan have a thing for black girls? I'm starting to notice a trend.
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Dec 20, 2012 01:52
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Hedrigall posted:I have never been a comics person until quite recently, and in the last couple of years I've read some amazing books and now I want some recommendations. Off the top of my head: Punisher Max by Garth Ennis (grim and dark (and interesting!) take on crime and punishment in the underworld), The Human Target (take on someone who mimics people - for a price, just fantastic check out the first couple of volumes by Milligan), Criminal (just essential reading, by Brubaker), We3 (a cross between Homeward Bound and Robocop), and 100 Bullets (maybe my favorite comic of the past decade, a noir-esque take on morality and conspiracy). EDIT: I found Change #1 to be juvenile in all the worst ways. Like a teenager who thinks he/she is intensely deep. EDIT 2: Oh wait, this guy did Wild Children? I should have known... Shageletic fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Dec 20, 2012 |
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Dec 20, 2012 19:12
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I'm not big into comic books. Walking Dead fan. The general TV show community consensus is that the comic goes to poo poo after the Woodbury/Prison arc is over. I've read the complete series summary on their wiki, and while the start of the Alexandria arc does sound a bit dull, I don't see a huge problem with it other than losing so much of the original cast. What do you guys think?
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Dec 22, 2012 15:26
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Kasonic posted:I'm not big into comic books. Walking Dead fan. I still like it a lot, but I can see how people who read in on a monthly basis might get sick of it. I've done it myself since summer and I think I'm going to stop and start waiting for hardcovers again. It just doesn't read well in small bites.
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Dec 22, 2012 16:32
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Rule of thumb with The Walking Dead: read until you either get pissed off or you can accurately predict when the next person will die. That's a good point to stop.
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Dec 22, 2012 20:29
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Did Prophet drop this week? Image's site says 1/2, but I remember Graham saying that they were coming out alongside Warheads as a happy coincidence. I ask because it wasn't in my pulls and I didn't see it at the shop, but I clearly have Warheads in hand and thought I read some folks complaining on the Twitter about resolution issues with Prophet.
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Dec 23, 2012 03:18
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bairfanx posted:Did Prophet drop this week? Image's site says 1/2, but I remember Graham saying that they were coming out alongside Warheads as a happy coincidence. I ask because it wasn't in my pulls and I didn't see it at the shop, but I clearly have Warheads in hand and thought I read some folks complaining on the Twitter about resolution issues with Prophet. Wasn't on my invoice.
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Dec 23, 2012 04:10
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Hedrigall posted:So can someone please recommend me some trade paperbacks/graphic novels along the lines of In the vein of Prophet and outlandish, alien Sci-fi I'd recommend The Incal by Jodorowsky/Moebius and The Metabarons by Jodorowsky/Giminez. The artwork in the latter especially is gorgeous and very painterly(be warned, the gory imagery is sometimes cringe-inducing). Even though you said you're not into manga, you might still want to check out Akira if you haven't already, It's on a completely different wavelength then manga-by-the-numbers. Just thought I'd throw it out there. Caveman Cat fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Dec 25, 2012 |
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Dec 25, 2012 07:11
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Hedrigall posted:- a) Saga and Prophet, with sci-fi and aliens and awesomeness Thorgal which mixes sci-fi with vikings is pretty good: 
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Siegfried vol. 1 too. I've gone about it a bunch here and other threads but its that good.
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Dec 28, 2012 03:49
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