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danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

rage-saq posted:

I had a similar experience. I thought it could have been great if there were less ashy burnt character and more sweetness/body. The super dry ashy character did not go well with the tart wine barrel character.

Had this in Vegas and even after everything we drank at Aces and Ales, I couldn't finish it. Of course, maybe because we drank some amazing stuff at ANA first, but yeah... Not good.

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Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

JosephStalinVEVO posted:

My local beer store decided to hold off on selling the Westie 12 until today because of the Stone 12/12/12 event yesterday. The news was there for this one. I got there around 930 and was 50th in line. By noon, when they opened, there was maybe 400 people in line for the 150 bricks they were selling.

Picked it up and a couple bottles of Pliny the Elder and that'll do me for buying "hard to get beer" for at least a year.

It really grinds my gears reading this kind of stuff (which I've seen multiple times). It's a total rear end in a top hat decision to make 400 people stand in line for 150 packs. I don't get what the point is other than pissing people off. The only reason to even have a "sell by" time is to give more people a chance to buy. They should have handed out tickets and the second they had 150 people in the line they should have sold off the bricks.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
On a whim I picked up a mixed sixpack of various not-quite-craft winter seasonals. The Shock Top "End Of The World Midnight Wheat" is actually pretty decent. I've got the Blue Moon Full Moon Winter Ale and Winter Abbey and the Guinness Generous Ale to try out tomorrow.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Shock Top "End Of The World Midnight Wheat"

OK I promise I'll try this one, if I find it, if only because it has been several years since I tried a Shock Top and I have to give 'em a chance, at least for the purposes of my untappd score.

In other news, today in Bend I skied my rear end off in the morning, biked my rear end off in the afternoon, and now I'm at the 10 Barrel drinking my rear end off of what they call the "Rye'm or Treason," a barleywine which goes down far too smooth for what they call 10.3%. 10 Barrel is to some extent the most intensely experimental brewery in a city that's full of very experimental breweries, and I may have to stow a bottle or two of this for the future.

In other other news, Boneyard Suge Knight just dropped all over town but forget it, I'm too drunk off 10 Barrel already (which is thankfully walkin' distance from home).

obi_ant
Apr 8, 2005

How are you guys drinking your Westvleteren 12? I chilled mine for about 20 min in the fridge after sitting in my room for the whole day, and it's not too shabby. What do you guys (for those lucky enough to score one I guess) think of the beer? There has been a lot of talk about getting it, but no one is talking about drinking it.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

obi_ant posted:

How are you guys drinking your Westvleteren 12? I chilled mine for about 20 min in the fridge after sitting in my room for the whole day, and it's not too shabby. What do you guys (for those lucky enough to score one I guess) think of the beer? There has been a lot of talk about getting it, but no one is talking about drinking it.

Lets talk beer 3: Too busy talking about getting Westy 12 to actually drink and talk about drinking Westy 12

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


obi_ant posted:

How are you guys drinking your Westvleteren 12? I chilled mine for about 20 min in the fridge after sitting in my room for the whole day, and it's not too shabby. What do you guys (for those lucky enough to score one I guess) think of the beer? There has been a lot of talk about getting it, but no one is talking about drinking it.

Because a good number of us have already had it :smug:

No seriously, it really hasn't been THAT impossible to get for anyone who wanted it.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
Yeah seriously this Westy 12 talk is getting annoying. Can't wait for Hopslam talk in Spring for that circlejerk. /enddrunkscotchminirant

Anyway, Great Lakes Christmas Ale sucks this year. It's not the sweet frosted gingerbread cookie tasting beer I remember. It's just bland with some spices. I do not like this.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Dec 14, 2012

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Midorka posted:

Yeah seriously this Westy 12 talk is getting annoying. Can't wait for Hopslam talk in Spring for that circlejerk. /enddrunkscotchminirant

Anyway, Great Lakes Christmas Ale sucks this year. It's not the sweet frosted gingerbread cookie tasting beer I remember. It's just bland with some spices. I do not like this.
Of course its annoying. You didn't get a brick :smug:

obi_ant posted:

How are you guys drinking your Westvleteren 12? I chilled mine for about 20 min in the fridge after sitting in my room for the whole day, and it's not too shabby. What do you guys (for those lucky enough to score one I guess) think of the beer? There has been a lot of talk about getting it, but no one is talking about drinking it.
I kind of mentioned this earlier, but I understand it. December 12/13 isn't really special. This is a pretty special beer. I do recommend people drink at least one fresh to get a feel for what it tastes like, but still, drink it on Christmas, or on New Year's, really.

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat
Popped my last Dark Hollow after splitting one with a friend a few weeks ago and noticing it was continuing to go south. No surprise, another harrowing experience. I would suspect myself of just having some odd taste aversion or being unlucky with bottles, but my bottle of Mandolin that I'd kept around started tasting worse for wear at Thanksgiving, too.

This sucks. :smith: I love supporting local breweries, but Blue Mountain Barrel House is torpedoing me so hard I don't think I'll ever buy a bottle again. Between this poo poo and their mediocre ESB going for $10 I'm just done.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence

Midorka posted:

Yeah seriously this Westy 12 talk is getting annoying.

:laugh:

I Dont Like You
Jul 6, 2003

Midorka posted:

Yeah seriously this Westy 12 talk is getting annoying. Can't wait for Hopslam talk in Spring for that circlejerk. /enddrunkscotchminirant


Technically, the Hopslam circlejerk talk will be in winter, since it's released in either Jan or Feb.. also I am very much looking forward to drinking it again fairly soon, thanks for the reminder. :cheers:

Vice Zoomler Aestro
Apr 4, 2003
pray the rosary dawgs
Yeah guys, stop talking about one of the best beers in the world being released Stateside for what might be the only time. Anyone tried a Dead Guy? WOW!


Actually, I did want to ask if anyone else has been having trouble finding Brown Shugga? It was in every store around Thanksgiving but already has vanished from most. It's arguably the best Lagunitas seasonal, but I usually don't have problems like this finding them.

Lagunitas seasonals are my go-to 6-packs. Very reliably good.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Vice Zoomler Aestro posted:

Actually, I did want to ask if anyone else has been having trouble finding Brown Shugga? It was in every store around Thanksgiving but already has vanished from most. It's arguably the best Lagunitas seasonal, but I usually don't have problems like this finding them.

I haven't had any luck getting Brown Shugga in Portland this year. The only reason I got to try some again was because I went to New Jersey to see family for Thanksgiving.

Speaking of Hopslam, I drank a pint of Boneyard Hopvenom tonight, which is like Hopslam but better and doesn't require you to wait until some special time of year.

I Dont Like You
Jul 6, 2003

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

I haven't had any luck getting Brown Shugga in Portland this year. The only reason I got to try some again was because I went to New Jersey to see family for Thanksgiving.

Speaking of Hopslam, I drank a pint of Boneyard Hopvenom tonight, which is like Hopslam but better and doesn't require you to wait until some special time of year.

It does require you to live near Bend, OR though I assume..

Vice Zoomler Aestro
Apr 4, 2003
pray the rosary dawgs

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

I haven't had any luck getting Brown Shugga in Portland this year. The only reason I got to try some again was because I went to New Jersey to see family for Thanksgiving.

Speaking of Hopslam, I drank a pint of Boneyard Hopvenom tonight, which is like Hopslam but better and doesn't require you to wait until some special time of year.

Just got a 6-pack at the Fred Meyer at 39th and Hawthorne, 1 pack left!

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat

Vice Zoomler Aestro posted:

Actually, I did want to ask if anyone else has been having trouble finding Brown Shugga? It was in every store around Thanksgiving but already has vanished from most. It's arguably the best Lagunitas seasonal, but I usually don't have problems like this finding them.

Lagunitas seasonals are my go-to 6-packs. Very reliably good.

There's one shop in my area that has it tucked into a corner. Everywhere else has been stripped clean. I don't remember it being this sought after last year, as I could find it pretty reliably at any of my local shops for a few months around release. I think the hype train got a bit out of control this time around, which is odd for Lagunitas. They're usually slightly under the radar even though they're so widely distributed.

Modern Automaton
Sep 22, 2006
Dubiously Retarded

Vice Zoomler Aestro posted:

Actually, I did want to ask if anyone else has been having trouble finding Brown Shugga? It was in every store around Thanksgiving but already has vanished from most. It's arguably the best Lagunitas seasonal, but I usually don't have problems like this finding them.

Lagunitas seasonals are my go-to 6-packs. Very reliably good.

Just tapped our keg tonight. Had a pour when we closed. Swing on by AZ for some love.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!
I drank Westy 12 tonight. It was probably the best beer I've ever had, although I still haven't had an Abt 12 to compare it to. It was so unbelievably complex, I feel like every 5 minutes I was getting different flavors. There was a period of about 20 minutes where I didn't like it that much because it was very cherry forward, but I could see how many people could appreciate that. It didn't taste like the ABV it had at all, I truly understand the hype.

I also had a 3 Frogs IPA from Elevator Brewing Co tonight, and it was one of the worst beers I've had in a while. I'm probably being too critical of it, but it was far too malty. I tend to enjoy IPAs that are hop forward, but if they are malt forward I just really can't enjoy them.

P.S. I wish there were a bunch of VT goons who wanted to trade all the time, I think I'm going to have to trade on reddit or ratebeer or something :(

E: I'm also just kind of curious... how much does it cost in CA for a bottle of 12 year Elijah Craig Eclipse? They seem to be available online for $27, but I have a feeling that might be a bit taxed.

Kudosx fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Dec 14, 2012

BatshitCrazy
May 12, 2009
So I decided to try Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale(only drank occasionally, 'cheap' beers) after reading some of the positive reviews. Is it because I am unaccustomed to drinking beers? I really can't smell or taste the caramel, coffee, nuttiness in the beer.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

I Dont Like You posted:

It does require you to live near Bend, OR though I assume..

Nah, it's on tap in Portland from time to time throughout the year. Boneyard isn't widely distributed yet, unfortunately.

Kraven Moorhed posted:

There's one shop in my area that has it tucked into a corner. Everywhere else has been stripped clean. I don't remember it being this sought after last year, as I could find it pretty reliably at any of my local shops for a few months around release. I think the hype train got a bit out of control this time around, which is odd for Lagunitas. They're usually slightly under the radar even though they're so widely distributed.

I think people have just missed having it around for the past couple of years and are now going a little overboard to compensate.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Kraven Moorhed posted:

There's one shop in my area that has it tucked into a corner. Everywhere else has been stripped clean. I don't remember it being this sought after last year, as I could find it pretty reliably at any of my local shops for a few months around release. I think the hype train got a bit out of control this time around, which is odd for Lagunitas. They're usually slightly under the radar even though they're so widely distributed.

yeah, i don't understand why it was such a Thing around here this year. that said, WF had a giant loving endcap of the stuff (for a dollar off!) last week and i swear OUAVN had some the other day. spotted some Yeti bombers bottled January 2011 at OUAVS yesterday if you're into that, also think they're getting Rueuze today.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


I Dont Like You posted:

Technically, the Hopslam circlejerk talk will be in winter, since it's released in either Jan or Feb.. also I am very much looking forward to drinking it again fairly soon, thanks for the reminder. :cheers:

I got an invite to a Hopslam release party yesterday. It's on January 9.

:getin:

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Midorka posted:

Anyway, Great Lakes Christmas Ale sucks this year. It's not the sweet frosted gingerbread cookie tasting beer I remember. It's just bland with some spices. I do not like this.

Christmas Ale is the same as its ever been and I'm not sure I've ever had one that I'd describe as a sweet frosted gingerbread cookie.

Kudosx posted:

P.S. I wish there were a bunch of VT goons who wanted to trade all the time, I think I'm going to have to trade on reddit or ratebeer or something :(

I managed to find someone on a Beer Facebook group from VT who wanted to trade me, he doesn't post on RB/BA and he lives less than an hour away from Hill Farmstead. He sent me 3 bottles of Juicy. Life is good.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Kudosx posted:

I drank Westy 12 tonight. It was probably the best beer I've ever had, although I still haven't had an Abt 12 to compare it to. It was so unbelievably complex, I feel like every 5 minutes I was getting different flavors. There was a period of about 20 minutes where I didn't like it that much because it was very cherry forward, but I could see how many people could appreciate that. It didn't taste like the ABV it had at all, I truly understand the hype.

I also had a 3 Frogs IPA from Elevator Brewing Co tonight, and it was one of the worst beers I've had in a while. I'm probably being too critical of it, but it was far too malty. I tend to enjoy IPAs that are hop forward, but if they are malt forward I just really can't enjoy them.

P.S. I wish there were a bunch of VT goons who wanted to trade all the time, I think I'm going to have to trade on reddit or ratebeer or something :(

E: I'm also just kind of curious... how much does it cost in CA for a bottle of 12 year Elijah Craig Eclipse? They seem to be available online for $27, but I have a feeling that might be a bit taxed.

$27 is about what they are everywhere.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Bag of Sun Chips posted:

Christmas Ale is the same as its ever been and I'm not sure I've ever had one that I'd describe as a sweet frosted gingerbread cookie.


I managed to find someone on a Beer Facebook group from VT who wanted to trade me, he doesn't post on RB/BA and he lives less than an hour away from Hill Farmstead. He sent me 3 bottles of Juicy. Life is good.
Christmas ale is supposed to taste like a Christmas tree. If it didn't I swear there would be riots in Cleveland the way some of my friends talk about it.

E. There was the one time I had it at a divebar with filthy lines and it tasted like the Christmas tree at an old persons musty house. Still not gingerbread.

zedprime fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Dec 14, 2012

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


Christmas Ale is most likely the most over-hyped beer in America.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
y'all need to try some Gingerbread Stout from Hardywood Park- after all, BA gave it a 100!

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


Angry Grimace posted:

It really grinds my gears reading this kind of stuff (which I've seen multiple times). It's a total rear end in a top hat decision to make 400 people stand in line for 150 packs. I don't get what the point is other than pissing people off. The only reason to even have a "sell by" time is to give more people a chance to buy. They should have handed out tickets and the second they had 150 people in the line they should have sold off the bricks.

Depending on the state/municipality, a lot of places have regulations on when alcohol can be sold - no booze sales before noon, none on a Sunday, whatever. It varies a lot. So that's part of it, waiting until it's legal to sell the beer. As to letting more than 150 people get into the waiting line, I agree it's kind of a dick move. It makes a degree of business sense, though, since even people who don't get a Westy brick may buy something else to drown their disappointment. I didn't exactly leave Total Wine empty handed when I got in too late to buy any of their Abyss.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

ShaneB posted:

Christmas Ale is most likely the most over-hyped beer in America.

I'd probably give that honor to Yeungling outside of its distribution zone, but yeah GL Christmas is quite overhyped.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


crazyfish posted:

I'd probably give that honor to Yeungling outside of its distribution zone, but yeah GL Christmas is quite overhyped.

I guess I'm going for seasonal release. I'd definitely say Yeungling is the most overhyped year-round beer in America, sure.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

ShaneB posted:

I guess I'm going for seasonal release. I'd definitely say Yeungling is the most overhyped year-round beer in America, sure.

poo poo is bizarre, i get people asking every once in a while if they can ship someone a case through my store

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

funkybottoms posted:

y'all need to try some Gingerbread Stout from Hardywood Park- after all, BA gave it a 100!

It's really good, I tried some at the Dark Horse 4 Elf party. I wish I could track some down.


ShaneB posted:

Christmas Ale is most likely the most over-hyped beer in America.

So true. My non-beer drinking friends go crazy for Christmas Ale every winter. I don't get it - it's an ale with a ton of spices. You'd think they'd be into other beers.

crazyfish posted:

I'd probably give that honor to Yeungling outside of its distribution zone, but yeah GL Christmas is quite overhyped.

Christmas Ale, Yuengling, and Fat Tire all generate ridiculous hype with people who aren't big beer drinkers. It's weird.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

Bag of Sun Chips posted:



Christmas Ale, Yuengling, and Fat Tire all generate ridiculous hype with people who aren't big beer drinkers. It's weird.

Around here it's DFH Punkin. That poo poo disappears from the tasting room incredibly fast, people can't get enough, it's really weird.

Astronaut Jones
Oct 18, 2007
Destination Moon


cryme posted:

Around here it's DFH Punkin. That poo poo disappears from the tasting room incredibly fast, people can't get enough, it's really weird.

Last I heard, they actually presell the entire batch of Punkin because people go so apeshit over it.

Looks like one of my local joints (Capone's) still has Vertical 2008 -> 2012, Dupont Avec les Bons Voeux and Brown Shugga on tap, might have to stop over after work and see just how bad the Vertical really is.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Bag of Sun Chips posted:

It's really good, I tried some at the Dark Horse 4 Elf party. I wish I could track some down.

if only there were some goons in Richmond...

Vertigo
Jul 15, 2002

Around my neck of the woods, Mad Elf, the last few years has been EVERYWHERE. Literally skids of it at local distributors. I don't know if Troegs kept production the same and sent it to more areas, or if all of a sudden it got really popular. I found a case last night, and it was actually the first case I've seen of it anywhere. I am seeing the gift sets everywhere(Mad Elf glass and a 22ozer) however.

It's weird.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Astronaut Jones posted:

Last I heard, they actually presell the entire batch of Punkin because people go so apeshit over it.

That's actually not that weird, believe it or not Sam Adam's Merry Mischief and White Christmas were pre-orders, as was Great Lakes Christmas Ale. I don't mean for the customer, but for the shops.

Edit: Oh god Mad Elf. I'm sick of hearing about it. I get 4 people into my shop a day looking for it. I decided to bring my 6 pack in to sit behind the counter to antagonize, "Oh, that's mine I already paid for it, it's coming home with me tonight." At least I get to laugh in my head as I get annoyed by the loving Mad Elf stampedes. I wouldn't even be that pissed if they were interested in other beers, but they look around, ask for Mad Elf, get pissed when we say we don't have it, then storm out.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Dec 14, 2012

Vertigo
Jul 15, 2002

Midorka posted:

That's actually not that weird, believe it or not Sam Adam's Merry Mischief and White Christmas were pre-orders, as was Great Lakes Christmas Ale. I don't mean for the customer, but for the shops.

Edit: Oh god Mad Elf. I'm sick of hearing about it. I get 4 people into my shop a day looking for it. I decided to bring my 6 pack in to sit behind the counter to antagonize, "Oh, that's mine I already paid for it, it's coming home with me tonight." At least I get to laugh in my head as I get annoyed by the loving Mad Elf stampedes.

Haha. What is it about Mad Elf this year? Did they do a bigger area/lower production/?

I can't figure out why this is so hard to get a hold of this year.

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WaffleStomp
May 7, 2007

Midorka posted:


I decided to bring my 6 pack in to sit behind the counter to antagonize, "Oh, that's mine I already paid for it, it's coming home with me tonight." At least I get to laugh in my head as I get annoyed by the loving Mad Elf stampedes.

.....what? That's one of the most beer snobbish things I've ever read, wow.

RE: Mad Elf production. I snagged a case of it from the brewery in October, I believe, and at least in PA and the Lawrenceville NJ area, I haven't seen it at any stores since around Thanksgiving. I believe Troegs upped production this year since they're in their new brewery now, but it flies off the shelves faster and faster each year. Two years ago, I was able to walk into a Canal's in NJ in early December and see a healthy amount of cases. It's a popular beer that grows in popularity each year, nothing wrong with that.

WaffleStomp fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Dec 14, 2012

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