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Sick_Boy posted:Thank you so much. 3 minutes in, I got around ten instances of "communism". This dude is amazing. I caught a few minutes of Alex's show today. He totally lost it at one point and just started yelling/weeping "THE GLOBALISTS! AHHHH!" It reminded me a lot of Glen Beck at his most pathetic. I also heard something about "frequency pollution" which is caused by phones and microwaves and is giving everyone cancer. Also the new world order is almost here, so get ready for that (buy INFOWARS survivalist gear!). I get some really creepy messiah complex vibes from him too. It's like listening to him is supposed to prepare you for the brave new world, which conveniently never comes. Either he's Christ in his own mind, or just another huckster, I don't know which is worse.
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"Radiosensitivity" is the funniest bullshit ever. You are, right now, bathing in radio waves. The exact same kind of radio waves that come out of your devices. Being as you are nonferrous, you have nothing to fear.
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Even if you're purely a huckster, I'm not sure you could say things like that hours and hours a day with emotion and not start to believe it on some level. If Daniel Day Lewis stayed in character for 20 years, he'd probably think he was Lincoln. Alex Jones is definitely believing he's Alex Jones too. Honestly I bet a lot of especially right wing huckster types, a la Michael Savage, started off just trying to fleece wingers. How far they've fallen into becoming their characters is really between them and god. Best Friends fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Dec 14, 2012 |
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DaveWoo posted:Front page of Drudge right now: The fact that Taranteno mocks and criticizes racism in his films of course completely lost on conservatives as usual. On that note, the climax action scene's moneyshot got a standing ovation for the midnight screening of inglorious basterds I went to during its opening. I clapped so hard my hands were sore. I won't spoil it but those who have seen it know the great moment of what-if-ism that the movie delivers on.  That movie's climax made it the feel good movie of the year for me. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Dec 14, 2012 |
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That's kind of interesting, you're watching a film where people are watching a film of war porn and applauding and cheering the violence, showing the horror of propaganda, then violence porn breaks out and you, the real audience start applauding it.
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The first thing to know about Inglorious Basterds is that it hates you a lot.
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Psalmanazar posted:The first thing to know about Inglorious Basterds is that it hates you a lot. What? I don't understand what you're getting at.
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Phone posted:What? I don't understand what you're getting at. The movie mocks the audience (who I saw laughing when the Basterds brutally beat a German soldier to death with a baseball bat) by showing various Nazis from some bootlicker to Hitler himself laughing at the propaganda movie with Americans getting shot left and right later in the movie. Of course, I'll defend the main climax because who doesn't want to see Hitler shot in the head by two Jewish guys
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The latest Tarantino movie Man with the Iron Fists blowed in my opinion but I remember seeing this thread and wondering if the 'friend of the family friend of the family friend of the family' drudge image refers to the scene where the black smith is being beaten by the plantation white men? . Would a conservative have scoffed at that scene. It's funny I can almost predict exactly what they would think about that scene. 'That was 150 years ago! Who cares! Things are different now! How come the liberal media doesn't show todays racism with the black man kicking the white man when hes down!!'. Blacks are the real racists of today, hating whitey for something he didn't do!' A young son of a conservative I'd meet in class would quietly tell me racism works both ways as if that justifies anything that happens to black people today because of injustices created by the conservative mindset. Kneel Before Zog fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Dec 14, 2012 |
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Dec 14, 2012 14:45
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Kneel Before Zog posted:The latest Tarantino movie Man with the Iron Fists blowed in my opinion He was only a producer on that one, RZA directed and wrote it. And I haven't heard good things about it, but maybe the 5-hour original version is more coherent/better.
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LP97S posted:The movie mocks the audience (who I saw laughing when the Basterds brutally beat a German soldier to death with a baseball bat) by showing various Nazis from some bootlicker to Hitler himself laughing at the propaganda movie with Americans getting shot left and right later in the movie. If laughing at Nazis being shot in spectacular fashion is wrong, then I don't want to be right.
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The thing is, the film is trying to point out something that the Germans learned a long time ago: fascism is a thing that's part of human nature. The leftists in the student revolution wanted to goad the state into proving that it was still run by fascists by provoking them to violence. They killed each other and committed acts of terrorism. Think about the climax of the movie. It ends with the "good guys" beating a dead Hitler while they wait for their own deaths. One of the heroes destroys a huge collection of historically significant films to get revenge, and dies in the process of doing so. The end of the climax is a dead person laughing as both sides die, with the "good" guys murdering a bunch of unarmed Nazis who came to watch a film, and then committing suicide. Not only a suicide, but a suicide bombing. Then, in the end, the last two Basterds who are still alive carve a swastika in the Nazi field-marshal's head so that he can never, ever not be a Nazi. No redemption, no second chances. He's marked as a Nazi for the rest of his life. He was a horrible person, sure. But he's marked as being utterly irredeemable. Meanwhile, the supposedly virtuous good guys murder the radio officer that was accompanying him for no reason, after promising not to, simply because Aldo knows that he won't get into any real trouble for it. They're really not portrayed as being heroic in any way. But, you know, Nazis. [edit] Spoilered that, even though the movie is pretty old.
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But they're not virtuous good guys. They're Inglorious Bastards.
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But the audience who's clapping for them sees them as virtuous. That's the point, it's like a Rorschach test. People see a reflection of their attitudes in how they view each character.
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Best Friends posted:Even if you're purely a huckster, I'm not sure you could say things like that hours and hours a day with emotion and not start to believe it on some level. If Daniel Day Lewis stayed in character for 20 years, he'd probably think he was Lincoln. Alex Jones is definitely believing he's Alex Jones too. First time I heard Alex Jones, it was so over the top I thought it was a parody; with fake callers and "experts" and everything, following a script. It thought someone was giving talk radio the Christopher Guest treatment. Can we move the Tarantino stuff to the Django Unchained thread? It's been going on for like 2 pages now.
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Pope Guilty posted:"Radiosensitivity" is the funniest bullshit ever. You are, right now, bathing in radio waves. The exact same kind of radio waves that come out of your devices. Being as you are nonferrous, you have nothing to fear.
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I'd like to throw out the fact that is not just the "Right Wing Media" which is poisoning this country with lies and propaganda, but the regular media as well. Either they're owned by Newscorp, or they are responding in fear to Fox News. Witness the decline of CNN into a "Fox-Lite". Witness the guest list of every Sunday show every Sunday. Consider the Opinion page of the Washington Post. On and on. They've all been so terrified of being tarred "Liberal Media" they go out of their way to defer to any and all Republicans. The only counter example is MSNBC, who only recently decided to counter market to a unabashed "Liberal" viewpoint, but for only a few hours every day. And then I read Murdoch is gonna buy the LA Times and the Chicago Tribune. Awesome - that's exactly what the country needs.
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Guilty Spork posted:I liked the interview with a woman who complained of radiosensitivity from Wi-Fi. The interviewer turned on an access point and she started to freak out. Then he revealed that it was actually just a box with some colored lights. I beg you to find and post this.
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redshirt posted:I'd like to throw out the fact that is not just the "Right Wing Media" which is poisoning this country with lies and propaganda, but the regular media as well. Either they're owned by Newscorp, or they are responding in fear to Fox News. Witness the decline of CNN into a "Fox-Lite". Witness the guest list of every Sunday show every Sunday. Consider the Opinion page of the Washington Post. On and on. Except it sounds what you're saying is that the "regular media" has become more right wing in response to FOX domination of the ratings. I agree with your conclusion and get what you're saying, but really it's just one more example of how pervasive and successful the right wing "anti liberal/unbaised" approach has been for them in framing the narrative and moving the Overton Window. The "regular media" has shifted right, but that doesn't stop FOX, Rush and all the others from claiming they're just as liberally biased as they've always been. The extreme right is simply totalitarian.
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BUSH 2112 posted:The thing is, the film is trying to point out something that the Germans learned a long time ago: fascism is a thing that's part of human nature. The leftists in the student revolution wanted to goad the state into proving that it was still run by fascists by provoking them to violence. They killed each other and committed acts of terrorism. This movies just got 10 times better for me  (and it was already pretty great)Gozinbulx posted:But they're not virtuous good guys. They're Inglorious Bastards. It's okay to enjoy it for the revenge fantasy bit, seeing people you view as the bad guys get their comeuppance is something pretty old to the human condition. The important thing is to not take such a story at face value and let it colour your perception of the world. I.e. torturing people in Gitmo. That they did it on 24 doesn't mean it's good or that it works in real life. Ron Paul Atreides fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Dec 14, 2012 |
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I've bitched about S.E. Cupp here before, but my heart went out to her on MSNBC just now. She was trying to talk about the CT school shooting to a child psychologist just after Obama's emotional press conference, and you could tell she was just close to losing it and breaking down crying, her voice cracked at least a couple of times. 
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I've bitched about S.E. Cupp here before, but my heart went out to her on MSNBC just now. She was trying to talk about the CT school shooting to a child psychologist just after Obama's emotional press conference, and you could tell she was just close to losing it and breaking down crying, her voice cracked at least a couple of times. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/john-d-goodwin-jr/gIQA59beKP_topic.html
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BiggerBoat posted:First time I heard Alex Jones, it was so over the top I thought it was a parody; It's definitely hard to tell at times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h1QNTQDnoU
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Does Alex Jones trash Romney or George W. Bush on his show, or is his wingnuttery strictly reserved for Obama and other Democrats?
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Conspiracy theorists generally hold GWB accountable for planning and executing the controlled demolition and missile strike on 9/11 (and hiding the airliners or whatever, I'm not real clear on the mechanics of all this but this youtube video sure is convincing!), but yeah, no idea if they're still harping on that. I doubt it. Current holder of power is always the first enemy.
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He's been trolling Bush since the 90's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NhmZSdmY0s
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And along comes this scumbag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIF70HsfpAg Yes, he was in fact, trying as hard as he could to provoke an assault and even deliberately inserted himself between two people who were arguing just so he could get punched. All to get a "UNION THUGS!!!" moment on camera.
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Best Friends posted:Conspiracy theorists generally hold GWB accountable for planning and executing the controlled demolition and missile strike on 9/11 (and hiding the airliners or whatever, I'm not real clear on the mechanics of all this but this youtube video sure is convincing!), but yeah, no idea if they're still harping on that. I doubt it. Current holder of power is always the first enemy. I never understood this point, because how could Bush have possibly planned such a thing in only a year. The only way that makes sense is if Clinton planned it and Bush got it and somehow decided to just go with it instead of exposing it and, you know, discrediting Democrats forever and ever. Does not compute. 
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Spacedad posted:And along comes this scumbag: This is neither the first time Fox has done this nor the most egregious. It is the first time that they have used a "correspondent" with a face so insanely smug and punchable that I don't blame the  UNION THUG for singling his face out of a crowd after he got thrown to the ground.
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So is Steven Crowder supposed to be a "wackier" James O'Keefe or something?
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Huckabee To Fox: ‘Should We Be Surprised’ About School Carnage When We’ve ‘Removed God From Schools’? I'm so done with these fucks. So done, so done. What comes out of their mouths is so irrelevant to me. Who is buying into this anymore? Huckabee is prating on about this, incidentally, as his boss calls for stricter gun control and sells tit mags in Europe. How deep into the culture war do you have to be to nod your head at this? I pray for Allah to send planes into the media.
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SedanChair posted:Huckabee To Fox: ‘Should We Be Surprised’ About School Carnage When We’ve ‘Removed God From Schools’? What the gently caress?  quote:I pray for Allah to send planes into the media. But also gently caress this, for various reasons. Don't sink to their level unless you absolutely have to. Fighting monsters and all that.
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SedanChair posted:Huckabee To Fox: ‘Should We Be Surprised’ About School Carnage When We’ve ‘Removed God From Schools’? The guy is just on autopilot. Lord forgive him, for he knows not what the gently caress he's blathering about.
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Lightning Knight posted:But also gently caress this, for various reasons. Don't sink to their level unless you absolutely have to. Fighting monsters and all that. I think more simple, corrective viciousness from the left aimed at these clowns could be effective (and 100% warranted), ironic calls for terrorist attacks notwithstanding. Factual refutations require far too much effort and miss the point of the type of rhetoric they engage in. There's very little else to be done with people whose entire political world view is framed as a media empire of manufactured outrage, racist resentment, insularity etc. It's certainly preferable to having their perspectives entertained as part of the mainstream discourse.
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Bathtub Cheese posted:I think more simple, corrective viciousness from the left aimed at these clowns could be effective (and 100% warranted), ironic calls for terrorist attacks notwithstanding. Factual refutations require far too much effort and miss the point of the type of rhetoric they engage in. There's very little else to be done with people whose entire political world view is framed as a media empire of manufactured outrage, racist resentment, insularity etc. It's certainly preferable to having their perspectives entertained as part of the mainstream discourse. Wouldn't that just make their white christian victimhood go nuclear? They'd actually have something to complain about if those socialist nazi lieburals were making fun of them.
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SedanChair posted:Huckabee To Fox: ‘Should We Be Surprised’ About School Carnage When We’ve ‘Removed God From Schools’? .....How does this even loving make sense? The kids were shot by a mass murderer because they didn't pray to Huckabee's vengeful deity or something? Get hosed, Huckabee.
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He's probably trying to say the godless public school system creates murderous monsters. If only we had more deeply religious people in our society, with more guns to keep them protected.
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If we still had corporal punishment, none of this would have happened, because spankings make people not want to kill people.
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SedanChair posted:Huckabee To Fox: ‘Should We Be Surprised’ About School Carnage When We’ve ‘Removed God From Schools’? All anyone needs to know about Hucklebee is when he, a Baptist minister, and a rather sanctimonious one at that which is a herculean feat, went on the Daily Show and completely poo poo on the single core tenet of his so-called faith in the process of trying to argue why he's not a giant anthropomorphic sack of feces. He has absolutely zero core beliefs beyond self-aggrandizement.
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