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Yes even if you "kill" the second one before he turns big, he's back at full health in the second phase. So - it is also a waste to attack more than one of the two in the first phase.
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What the gently caress is that thing anyway? You'd think it'd be the sunbro version of a miracle resonance, but actually it's a doorbell for creepy gargoyle monsters.
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Dec 16, 2012 20:20
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Groen posted:Anyone know if you can kill O&S simultaneously ? You can drain both of their health bars all the way but it'll still proceed to the second part of the fight with whichever you killed last like it didn't happen. EDIT: Yeah, I never really understood the ring of light thing either. It seems like a dev cop-out to me, like they were going "how the hell do we have the player get to Anor Londo from here if the door is blocked off?" and someone just went "...more gargoyles?"
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Well I just got the game. Man, this is a really awful port. I installed the mods in the op and it still doesn't feel right. I fought that big demon thing in the tutorial area and killed it but I basically just stood infront of it and spammed my attack to kill it before it killed me. Whenever I tried to dodge it or be ~skillful~ the awful controls seemed to get the best of me Should I even bother with this game if I don't have a controller?
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Dec 16, 2012 20:58
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CJacobs posted:You can drain both of their health bars all the way but it'll still proceed to the second part of the fight with whichever you killed last like it didn't happen. Gargoyle's are fine, but it doesn't make sense why the activator is a ring of light, other than that it's obvious. It should have been something like a gargoyle statue in front of the door that you press the button in front of.
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Zzulu posted:Well I just got the game. Man, this is a really awful port. I installed the mods in the op and it still doesn't feel right. I fought that big demon thing in the tutorial area and killed it but I basically just stood infront of it and spammed my attack to kill it before it killed me. Whenever I tried to dodge it or be ~skillful~ the awful controls seemed to get the best of me No. I play with this and it owns: http://www.amazon.com/Frisby-Comput...isby+controller Also great for PSX emulation. Really solid for a great price.
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Dec 16, 2012 21:00
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Zzulu posted:Well I just got the game. Man, this is a really awful port. I installed the mods in the op and it still doesn't feel right. I fought that big demon thing in the tutorial area and killed it but I basically just stood infront of it and spammed my attack to kill it before it killed me. Whenever I tried to dodge it or be ~skillful~ the awful controls seemed to get the best of me Uh, if you're using the mouse fix there shouldn't really be a huge issue. It's better with a controller though. And after you install DSFix I don't think the port is really that bad.
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Dec 16, 2012 21:03
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Zzulu posted:Well I just got the game. Man, this is a really awful port. I installed the mods in the op and it still doesn't feel right. I fought that big demon thing in the tutorial area and killed it but I basically just stood infront of it and spammed my attack to kill it before it killed me. Whenever I tried to dodge it or be ~skillful~ the awful controls seemed to get the best of me Curious, what class did you start as?
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Zzulu posted:Well I just got the game. Man, this is a really awful port. I installed the mods in the op and it still doesn't feel right. I fought that big demon thing in the tutorial area and killed it but I basically just stood infront of it and spammed my attack to kill it before it killed me. Whenever I tried to dodge it or be ~skillful~ the awful controls seemed to get the best of me So, with the mods installed, what exactly doesn't feel right? Because either way, outside of apparently poor mouse controls the PC version is the definitive version without mods, let alone with them.
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Dec 16, 2012 21:07
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Also, you can just about get away with wildly flailing at the tutorial boss, but don't expect that to work anytime else, and blaming getting hit on the controls will just get you laughed at.
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Dec 16, 2012 21:07
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UnholyCow posted:So my Dark Souls install just decided to completely stop working. I've done all of the GFWL updates, gotten rid of dsfix, and just now finally reinstalled Dark Souls itself but it still crashes on launch while referencing fmodex.dll in the crash report. Anyone else had this happen? Searching about fmodex.dll just brings me to a bunch of crack sites which is not helpful at all because I own this on Steam. Bummed that I can't get my Dark Souls on. 
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Dec 16, 2012 21:08
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There are a lot of people who tried to play the game on consoles and complained about the controls after they ended up hating the game though and I've always kind of wondered what the gently caress they were talking about.
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Dec 16, 2012 21:09
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I finally got around to getting this game after I completed all the achievements on the Xbox version. I just got up to the DLC content, and I have to say that they did a great job on the Guardian. Probably one of my favorite bosses so far. Any tips for dealing with the giant stone guardians, though?
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Dec 16, 2012 21:16
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Mr E posted:Any tips for dealing with the giant stone guardians, though? Try dashing through
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Mr E posted:Any tips for dealing with the giant stone guardians, though? I played it reaaaaally safe. Double back-rolled out at the very first hint of an earth pound or whatever. And I was fat the whole game so it's probably easier with a lightweight character.
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Dec 16, 2012 21:22
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You can dodge to the side of every attack they do. Dodge against their attack, so that you dodge into the swing and not away from it. You will dodge it 100% of the time and have bonus time to butt-slash when they do the giant overhead attack. Just don't kite more than one, and kill all smallfries before taking on one of them so you aren't distracted or stunlocked
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Dec 16, 2012 21:45
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The Joe Man posted:I played it reaaaaally safe. Double back-rolled out at the very first hint of an earth pound or whatever. And I was fat the whole game so it's probably easier with a lightweight character. I played through last time with a Dex/Int character, so I'm playing a fatty this time, and it's quite fun. I finally got past those guys and activated the elevator, so looks like playing it safe was the way to go. Still, I found it easiest to kill the Guardian by stripping down to nothing just so I could dodge his lightning and attacks.
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Dec 16, 2012 21:48
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Dickweasel Alpha posted:You can dodge to the side of every attack they do. Yeah, but you should dodge between their legs, because its awesomer.
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Dec 16, 2012 21:52
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I have a question about that first area, is it possible to run through the Royal Wood in your first go along the wall, and then drop down through the hole where the shortcut is? It doesn't look like that far of a drop, it seems like you could easily survive normally and definitely survive with fall control
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Dec 16, 2012 21:55
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Not only is it awesomer, getting bonked on the head with the hilt of their weapon should you not quite make it does way less damage than getting hit by the part that's meant for slashing things.Dickweasel Alpha posted:I have a question about that first area, is it possible to run through the Royal Wood in your first go along the wall, and then drop down through the hole where the shortcut is? It doesn't look like that far of a drop, it seems like you could easily survive normally and definitely survive with fall control I've never tried it with Fall Control but I think I remember it killing me by doing it the normal way.
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Before I go become Darkwraith, I figured it was worth joining the Chaos Servants just to get their pyromancy skills. Is Chaos Storm and the Izalith shortcut worth 30 humanity?
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If you want the Sunlight Maggot help early/to play dress-up, like lava in your storms, and think Solaire is cool and should link the fires, then yes
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:There are a lot of people who tried to play the game on consoles and complained about the controls after they ended up hating the game though and I've always kind of wondered what the gently caress they were talking about. I dunno, I don't think it's that hard to see why someone wouldn't be a fan of the controls. RB/LB/R1/L1 are your main defend/attack buttons, and running is stuck on B so that you can't run and simultaneously be looking around unless you contort your hand into an awkward claw. I bet most people that hated the controls though actually hated the slow, deliberate gameplay rather than the actual control scheme. The fact that you have to think about every button press because every action has a specific animation that you can't interrupt and could get you killed isn't everyone's cup of tea. I know a couple of people who like games but never got into DS because the slow, brutal combat just didn't appeal to them.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Before I go become Darkwraith, I figured it was worth joining the Chaos Servants just to get their pyromancy skills. Is Chaos Storm and the Izalith shortcut worth 30 humanity? Yeah, definitely. Chaos Storm is pretty good when used intelligently and Izalith sucks, so the least amount of time spent there, the better.
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Snoop Rocket posted:Yeah, definitely. Chaos Storm is pretty good when used intelligently and Izalith sucks, so the least amount of time spent there, the better. I thought chaos storm was bugged to not scale with humanity. Was that patched, or is there something else to make it worthwhile? As I see it now, it's just a regular firestorm that takes two attunement slots.
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Dec 16, 2012 22:29
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It leaves lava pools that will do additional damage.
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Dec 16, 2012 22:31
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Groen posted:Anyone know if you can kill O&S simultaneously ? No. I posted about this some pages back. Me and Solaire killed O&S at the exact same time, but one of them was resurrected.
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Dickweasel Alpha posted:I have a question about that first area, is it possible to run through the Royal Wood in your first go along the wall, and then drop down through the hole where the shortcut is? It doesn't look like that far of a drop, it seems like you could easily survive normally and definitely survive with fall control I tried that with Fall Control and no dice. There's a kill brush there or something
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Before I go become Darkwraith, I figured it was worth joining the Chaos Servants just to get their pyromancy skills. Is Chaos Storm and the Izalith shortcut worth 30 humanity?
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From what I read, when you get 2+ in the covenant the shortcut opens up no matter where you are, and stays open the whole game even if you leave the covenant. Is this wrong?
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Dickweasel Alpha posted:I have a question about that first area, is it possible to run through the Royal Wood in your first go along the wall, and then drop down through the hole where the shortcut is? It doesn't look like that far of a drop, it seems like you could easily survive normally and definitely survive with fall control
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:From what I read, when you get 2+ in the covenant the shortcut opens up no matter where you are, and stays open the whole game even if you leave the covenant. Is this wrong? This is wrong. You have to be +2 in the covenant and then go and physically open the door, but it stays open if you leave once it's open.
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Akuma posted:I'm pretty sure it's a further drop than you're giving it credit for. Those elevators move pretty fast. I couldn't survive it.
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What if you used fall control?
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redmercer posted:Try dashing through Weakness: tears
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GeckoMissingo posted:What if you used fall control? It only reduces damage on non lethal falls.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Uh, if you're using the mouse fix there shouldn't really be a huge issue. It's better with a controller though. And after you install DSFix I don't think the port is really that bad. Yeah, I played the console version through to Blighttown before I had to quit as the framerate drops hit the single digits. The PC version is far superior to the console, the DSFix and mouse fix are just customization options.
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Zzulu posted:Well I just got the game. Man, this is a really awful port. I installed the mods in the op and it still doesn't feel right. I fought that big demon thing in the tutorial area and killed it but I basically just stood infront of it and spammed my attack to kill it before it killed me. Whenever I tried to dodge it or be ~skillful~ the awful controls seemed to get the best of me I've played 100+ hours now with KB+M and haven't had any issues, anything in particular that's getting to you about the controls? What do you consider "~skillful~" methods that failed against the 1st boss?
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To be fair, even with a gamepad the implementation of the controls is by no means perfect. There are several baffling idiosyncrasies that will really screw you up during those tense concentrated moments. You can learn how to predict and work around them most of the time, but even after 150+ hours there is still the occasional surprise that gets me killed.
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Tuxedo Ted posted:I thought chaos storm was bugged to not scale with humanity. Was that patched, or is there something else to make it worthwhile? As I see it now, it's just a regular firestorm that takes two attunement slots.
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