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Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes





Liked by a friend's brother. The original poster commented "I'll take this job... FOR FREE!!!!!" and a bunch of smiley faces. Sweet, man. Looking forward to you attempting to sate your murder-lust in an elementary school.

EDIT:
Also got this ad the other day. Not too crazy but it's funny to see it here.

Cat Face Joe fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Dec 19, 2012

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XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007
Veterans: historically, a mentally well-balanced group.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

XyloJW posted:

Veterans: historically, a mentally well-balanced group.

"Back there I could fly a gunship. I could drive a tank. I was in charge of million dollar equipment! Back here I can't even HOLD A JOB GUARDING SCHOOLS!"

Kugyou no Tenshi
Nov 8, 2005

We can't keep the crowd waiting, can we?

andrew smash posted:

does varmint mean different things in different parts of the country? I'm from Oregon and I grew up thinking varmint meant prairie dog to coyote sized pest and the appropriate weapons to deal with them are .22 LR or .22 mag chambered, not .223 which is a whole different beast.
Not to get too gunspergy about it, but you want a higher-velocity, higher ballistic coefficient round for varminting because it can be hard to get within range of .22LR without prairie dogs/gophers going back into hiding from your approach. .22WMR is marginally better. .223 Rem has twice to three times the BC of .22LR (meaning it's more stable and better suited for longer ranges).

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
This just came up on my facebook wall:

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A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
IT'S A NO BRAINER!
DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.
Spread the word everywhere you can that you are a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment!

It's time to speak loud before they try to silence and disarm us.
You're not imagining it, history shows that governments always manipulate tragedies to attempt to disarm the people~

Yes the Jews would have stopped the Germans if they only had a gun.

Also, I think this was posted here, but Switzerland is moving away from having guns in households: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/mythbusting-israel-and-switzerland-are-not-gun-toting-utopias/

It was posted from a Facebook group called "The Conservative Club" so yeah...

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007
I love how you can kind of tell what parts of these forwards were added on at different times. They're often stuck at the beginning or the end, a line separated by several spaces, and it's either in all caps or characteristically not in caps.

In this case, there's a hilariously glaring point where the dates and history stop, and all caps exclamation marks start.

I also like that as each person adds their own piece, they remind you to spread it, so there's literally 3 places you're told to spread the message.

quote:

If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.

Spread the word everywhere you can that you are a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment!

It's time to speak loud before they try to silence and disarm us.

Cacatua
Jan 17, 2006

Cat Face Joe posted:



Liked by a friend's brother. The original poster commented "I'll take this job... FOR FREE!!!!!" and a bunch of smiley faces. Sweet, man. Looking forward to you attempting to sate your murder-lust in an elementary school.


Good God. I teach at a small university and absolutely do not want some random armed veterans wandering around my classroom.

I don't want to have to lecture while holding a loaded gun, either (I am seeing a lot of suggestions that teachers should be armed). What kind of hosed up atmosphere would that create, particularly in an elementary school?

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Cacatua posted:

Good God. I teach at a small university and absolutely do not want some random armed veterans wandering around my classroom.

I don't want to have to lecture while holding a loaded gun, either (I am seeing a lot of suggestions that teachers should be armed). What kind of hosed up atmosphere would that create, particularly in an elementary school?
I taught at a university in Texas when they were considering allowing people (faculty, staff, and students) carry.

Then I think back to meetings where the student is flipping out and shudder.

EDIT: also, I would absolutely love to have someone with a gun in my class when I teach about abortion or God!

Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Dec 19, 2012

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004


Speaking as a veteran, I would much rather we had an environment that let kids go to school WITHOUT worrying about being shot, than an environment where having armed security guards for grade schoolers is considered to be perfectly normal.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Hastings posted:

The man in question must literally have to shoe horn his massive dick into his jeans every day.

He's actually a light plane pilot as well, and last I heard he's in a consulting job where he gets to fly himself to meetings, so he's pretty much the manliest. He actually looks totally normal, blond hair and a button-down shirt, slightly shorter than average, clean shaven, hell he works in IT, but once a man gives you some free bear steaks and takes you for a ride in his seaplane you have no choice but to acknowledge the manliness.

Choadmaster
Oct 7, 2004

I don't care how snug they fit, you're nuts!

Cat Face Joe posted:



Liked by a friend's brother. The original poster commented "I'll take this job... FOR FREE!!!!!" and a bunch of smiley faces. Sweet, man. Looking forward to you attempting to sate your murder-lust in an elementary school.

This is absurd, obviously, but for fun let's look at this from a purely cost-benefit standpoint.
  • Yearly deaths due to school shootings, at early 1990's peak: ~50.
  • Number of public schools in the US: ~100,000.
  • Pulled-from-my-rear end estimated cost of hiring military veteran as a security guard: $30,000/year plus benefits (let's just say $40,000 total). And that doesn't include equipment or continued training.
  • Cost of 3 veterans per school per year: $12 billion.
I think 12 billion dollars could probably save more than 50 children every year if put to better use. Say, improving poor kids' access to healthcare. Or food. But that would be socialism!

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

seiferguy posted:

This just came up on my facebook wall:
Nobody'd ever get shot, because everyone would have a gun!

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Choadmaster posted:

This is absurd, obviously, but for fun let's look at this from a purely cost-benefit standpoint.
  • Yearly deaths due to school shootings, at early 1990's peak: ~50.
  • Number of public schools in the US: ~100,000.
  • Pulled-from-my-rear end estimated cost of hiring military veteran as a security guard: $30,000/year plus benefits (let's just say $40,000 total). And that doesn't include equipment or continued training.
  • Cost of 3 veterans per school per year: $12 billion.
I think 12 billion dollars could probably save more than 50 children every year if put to better use. Say, improving poor kids' access to healthcare. Or food. But that would be socialism!

On the other hand, it'd take a huge chunk out of the number of unemployed veterans. You could give them an office where only one of them actually has to be on station, the other two veterans can spend their time helping teachers, cleaning or just playing with kids.

Maybe it'd be a really good program to help re-integrate our recently separated veterans back into normal society.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
20 million dissidents? Isn't that including the holodomor and other famines? In that case, I don't see where the "rounding up" comes from, except to plant an image in people's minds and/or exploit holocaust imagery. I see the number 20 million come up a lot, and they're always described differently. I remember a flyer for a local Russian Orthodox church, proclaiming (as though this would be something that would entice someone to come) "20 million martyrs in the 20th century alone!"

Sulphuric Sundae
Feb 10, 2006

You can't go in there.
Your father is dead.


I responded with "And that's why we ban these on planes."
Not to mentioned that 10x as many people in the US died from gunshot wounds in 2001 than died from terrorist attacks.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Sulphuric Sundae posted:



I responded with "And that's why we ban these on planes."
Not to mentioned that 10x as many people in the US died from gunshot wounds in 2001 than died from terrorist attacks.
I'm sorry but this image is just flat out wrong and you should have pointed this out in your response. Guns killed many, many more American citizens on American soil during the short 4 year period of 1861-65 than box cutters ever have.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Citation: This actually happened.

Edit: Eviction notice? They know he got re-elected right? And he can't be again so it's not much of an eviction if you're waiting 4 years and he has to go either way.

RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Dec 19, 2012

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost

RagnarokAngel posted:

Edit: Eviction notice? They know he got re-elected right? And he can't be again so it's not much of an eviction if you're waiting 4 years and he has to go either way.

The goal is to make Obama so embarrassed by Facebook image macros that he'll resign.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Choadmaster posted:

I think 12 billion dollars could probably save more than 50 children every year if put to better use. Say, improving poor kids' access to healthcare. Or food. But that would be socialism!

No expense must be spared to provide all with negative rights, but god forbid you even think about spending a single penny on a positive right, no matter how many lives it will save.

Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?
Today, on facebook adventures!



:barf:

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


I see a bunch of stupid poo poo on Facebook but this is pretty :stare:

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Nebalebadingdong posted:

Today, on facebook adventures!



:barf:
Hmm, methinks that either the Secular Police are coming for them soon! Any time now...

Soviet Commubot posted:

I see a bunch of stupid poo poo on Facebook but this is pretty :stare:


Remember, any regulation on guns at all is equivalent to taking them all away.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

This is it. The absolute highest-pitched dogwhistle racism I have ever seen.

"Minorities tend to vote democratic. Minorities also tend to commit (read: get convicted for) more violent crimes than non-minorities. Therefore my image macro makes perfect sense."

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.

seiferguy posted:

This just came up on my facebook wall:


Yes the Jews would have stopped the Germans if they only had a gun.

Also, I think this was posted here, but Switzerland is moving away from having guns in households: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/mythbusting-israel-and-switzerland-are-not-gun-toting-utopias/

It was posted from a Facebook group called "The Conservative Club" so yeah...
Be sure to cherry pick examples to prove your point. Wouldn't want the gun control of Canada, Japan, or most of Europe muddying the issue with facts after all.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

vyelkin posted:

This is it. The absolute highest-pitched dogwhistle racism I have ever seen.

"Minorities tend to vote democratic. Minorities also tend to commit (read: get convicted for) more violent crimes than non-minorities. Therefore my image macro makes perfect sense."

Hmm, it's a white guy in the picture. So clearly you're the racist. Checkmate, lib :smug:

For the charlie brown one, do people honestly not understand why some people don't say "merry christmas"? Or is it just a temper tantrum?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

myron cope posted:

For the charlie brown one, do people honestly not understand why some people don't say "merry christmas"? Or is it just a temper tantrum?

What is there not to agree with in that one? It is really strange when you're not even allowed to say it in the largest Christian nation in world.

I mean, we can say "merry christmas" even here in the Socialist Caliphates of Europe!

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Dec 19, 2012

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

myron cope posted:

Hmm, it's a white guy in the picture. So clearly you're the racist. Checkmate, lib :smug:

For the charlie brown one, do people honestly not understand why some people don't say "merry christmas"? Or is it just a temper tantrum?
They believe it's their right to have someone acknowledge their beliefs. And those who tell them 'happy holidays' are not acknowledging their beliefs, even if the person telling them this has no idea what those beliefs are and is just trying to wish someone a happy holiday season.

The war on Christmas folks are a very loud and annoying minority; I imagine that most people, even Christians, appreciate the gesture and don't think twice about it.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

I kind of wish there was a war on Christmas. This year all the stores skipped right over Thansgiving and started doing Christmas stuff immediately after Halloween. If someone doesn't mobilize to resist the relentless advance, next year we'll start the jingles right after Labor Day.

Ashcans fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Dec 19, 2012

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Every goddamn year I hear people here in England bitching about how "you're not allowed to say Merry Christmas", and how it's being renamed "Winterval" and other stupid poo poo that has literally never happened anywhere ever.

Well actually Winterval did happen, it was a festival that Birmingham city council once put on, yknow, during winter. It's Pee See Gorn Mahd I tell ya.

The Mail, Express, Sun and their ilk need to start having a massive block on their front page every day that reads "This is a work of fiction. Any resemblance to current events or persons living or dead is entirely coincidental."

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Cat Face Joe posted:



Liked by a friend's brother. The original poster commented "I'll take this job... FOR FREE!!!!!" and a bunch of smiley faces. Sweet, man. Looking forward to you attempting to sate your murder-lust in an elementary school.


Professional armed guards in schools? That's depressing, but not entirely unreasonable, and miles away from "give all schoolteachers handguns". I guess quite a few veterans would qualify, too. I don't really see the crazy here.

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Professional armed guards in schools? That's depressing, but not entirely unreasonable, and miles away from "give all schoolteachers handguns". I guess quite a few veterans would qualify, too. I don't really see the crazy here.

I'm not sure I'd want some PTSD suffering veterans with a gun near school children. It wouldn't take a year until one of them pulls a gun on some brat that shot a spitball at him.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005

peak debt posted:

I'm not sure I'd want some PTSD suffering veterans with a gun near school children. It wouldn't take a year until one of them pulls a gun on some brat that shot a spitball at him.

Or Joe the Supply Clerk who only fired his rifle 5 times in his whole career either.

Sarion
Dec 24, 2003

Or better yet, as someone else put it earlier in the thread: I don't really want my kids going to school where seeing armed guards is considered part of their normal, everyday lives.

Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005

Sarion posted:

Or better yet, as someone else put it earlier in the thread: I don't really want my kids going to school where seeing armed guards is considered part of their normal, everyday lives.

Exactly this. In what world is armed guards in an elementary school not a war-torn dystopia? For fucks sake.

Sarion
Dec 24, 2003

So Facebook has given us a lot of gun-chat lately; and this is not likely to end anytime soon.

But, as a break from gun-chat, here's an email forward I got from my father-in-law. My father-in-law is fairly typical Virginian, blue collar, labor union guy nearing retirement age. Reliable Democratic voter, strong on worker's rights but holds some conservative views, too (distrustful of strong federal government, opposes gay marriage, etc).

Anyways, I think this email is kind of interesting. It could almost pull off being a "liberal" forward, something we don't see often. It's attacking a Republican Senator, and the fear-factor stems from changes to Social Security and Medicare. However, it also uses language typical of conservative forwards, regarding the trustworthiness and laziness of public servants, and so forth. I don't think it really classifies solidly as left or right leaning; more of just a general "scare old people" leaning.

Here it is, all formatting is per the original, not emphasis from me. Also, I should point out, I have no idea who Rick Barry is, or what he or basketball have to do with anything else in the email.

Fwd: I don't think pissed really covers this!!!! posted:

Amen to all of this!!

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." Plato





Alan Simpson, Senator from Wyoming , calls senior citizens the Greediest Generation, as he compared "Social Security" to a Milk Cow with 310 million teats.

Here's a response in a letter from PATTY MYERS in Montana ... I think she is a little ticked off! She also tells it like it is!
*******************
"Hey Alan, let's get a few things straight!

1. As a career politician, you have been on the public dole for FIFTY YEARS.

2. I have been paying Social Security taxes for 48 YEARS (since I was 15 years old. I am now 63).

3. My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukesdecided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would have made Bernie Madoff proud.

4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and your ilk pulled the proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age 67. NOW, you and your shill commission is proposing to move the goalposts YET AGAIN.

5. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare from Day One, and now you morons propose to change the rules of the game. Why? Because you idiots mismanaged other parts of the economy to such an extent that you need to steal money from Medicare to pay the bills.

6. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying income taxes our entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why? Because you incompetent bastards spent our money so profligately that you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money. Now, you come to the American taxpayers and say you need more to pay off YOUR debt.

To add insult to injury, you label us "greedy" for calling "bullshit" on your incompetence. Well, Captain Bullshit, I have a few questions for YOU.

1. How much money have you earned from the American taxpayers during your pathetic 50-year political career?

2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career, and how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the American taxpayers?

3. How much do you pay for YOUR government provided health insurance?

4. What cuts in YOUR retirement and healthcare benefits are you proposing in your disgusting deficit reduction proposal, or, as usual, have you exempted yourself and your political cronies?

It is you, Captain Bullshit, and your political co-conspirators called Congress who are the "greedy" ones. It is you and your fellow nutcases who have bankrupted America and stolen the American dream from millions of loyal, patriotic taxpayers. And for what?
<red>Votes!</red> That's right, sir. You and yours have bankrupted America for the sole purpose of advancing your pathetic political careers. You know it, we know it, and you know that we know it.

And you can take that to the bank, you miserable son of a bitch.
**************************
If you like the way things are in America delete this. If you agree with what a fellow Montana citizen Patty Myers says, PASS IT ON!!!!

NOT sorry about the language.....
She tells it like it is...






I'll probably do a line by line response to it later, but I need to get back to work for a bit first.

Sarion fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Dec 19, 2012

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Waffles Inc. posted:

Exactly this. In what world is armed guards in an elementary school not a war-torn dystopia? For fucks sake.
In Israel, where I grew up? :shrug:

I mean, yeah, ideally you would make better gun control, but you have to enact policies until that finally comes into effect.

ETA: Searching my memory, I can't remember if we had a guard in my elementary school. I definitely remember there being one in my middle-school and high-school.

Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Dec 19, 2012

Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?

Ashcans posted:

I kind of wish there was a war on Christmas. This year all the stores skipped right over Thansgiving and started doing Christmas stuff immediately after Halloween. If someone doesn't mobilize to resist the relentless advance, next year we'll start the jingles right after Labor Day.

Well, there IS a war on Christmas. "Happy Holidays" is used in advertising to superficially acknowledge other religious beliefs, while at the same time replacing any spiritual meaning behind Christmas with consumerism.

The same people bemoaning the war on Christmas will often talk about "The Reason For the Season" bullshit, but somehow not making the connection to capitalism. This is especially baffling considering that every classic Christmas story is anti-consumerism.

Cacatua
Jan 17, 2006

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Professional armed guards in schools? That's depressing, but not entirely unreasonable, and miles away from "give all schoolteachers handguns". I guess quite a few veterans would qualify, too. I don't really see the crazy here.

No, it's unreasonable. It creates a hosed-up atmosphere of fear and paranoia.

Most large schools and universities do have security personnel and that works just fine.

Although these suggestions of putting combat veterans in schools kind of remind me of this:

http://www.dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=62

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SilentD
Aug 22, 2012

by toby

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Professional armed guards in schools? That's depressing, but not entirely unreasonable, and miles away from "give all schoolteachers handguns". I guess quite a few veterans would qualify, too. I don't really see the crazy here.

I went to schools that had cops in them, it does drive violence down. The metal detectors and other poo poo was obnoxious, but the shootings (on school grounds at least) did go down.

There is also a "troops to teachers" program my buddy did. He used the GI Bill for his undergrad and the government paid for his graduate degree. He's a teacher now, and he's former Navy EOD. He could easily kill someone in a shooting situation, or disarm a bomb if needed.

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