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Remember Charlotte Allen who said Sandy Hook was because of women and all that femininity in the school? Well she's doubling down, and also blaming not letting kids bully each other http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/21/1370841/conservative-columnist-doubles-down-on-women-are-to-blame-for-newtown-argument/ quote:According to anti-feminist Charlotte Allen, a male janitor or “even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys” would have made all the difference in the Newtown massacre, simply because they are male. National Review published Allen’s controversial piece on Wednesday, where she attributed the massacre to Sandy Hook’s female staff and its “feminized setting.”
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They were loving 6-9 year olds! The worst things they could say about each other was "you smell!"
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Dec 21, 2012 21:48
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Dirk Pitt posted:(because I loathe "you bet your garden") Thank god I am not the only one. quote:and he was talking about how low information voters are keeping gossip rags in print. Gossip rags such as the NY Post, Daily Mail, Sun, Bild-Zeitung, etc.
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Dec 21, 2012 21:50
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800peepee51doodoo posted:I thought we were done with that now that Ollie North is shilling for murder simulators Its the new Contra scandal! Ollie north is selling video games to buy guns for the Contras!
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Dec 21, 2012 22:19
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Crasscrab posted:They were loving 6-9 year olds! The worst things they could say about each other was "you smell!" Yeah but a six to nine year old is about the size of a zergling, so in numbers they could've rushed the shooter and clawed him to death, although they would've lost many kids in the process. 
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Dec 21, 2012 22:20
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What was going on while the NRA was taking us back to the 1990s? Oh, not much:quote:But before they could finish their sentence, the counterargument made itself as news broke of a mass shooting event in Pennsylvania with multiple casualties, including state troopers.
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Dec 21, 2012 22:20
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You have got to be kidding me *types Pennsylvania into google* Oh for the love of gently caress.
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Dec 21, 2012 22:25
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Sydney Bottocks posted:What was going on while the NRA was taking us back to the 1990s? Oh, not much: Don't worry guys, someone with a concealed carry will stop everything!.... ...oh 
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Dec 21, 2012 22:31
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You know they won't see the irony at all. Armed State Troopers were able to keep a maniac to an acceptably low 3 kills by using their guns and bullet proof vests. If only there had been guns and kevlar in schools like there are on highways... I say acceptably because I was very surprised to find that isn't all over my Google News page, and Google knows I live in Philly...
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Dec 21, 2012 22:38
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Oh they see the irony of it all right. They're just money and power grubbing charlatans so they're going to try to weasel-word their way out of it any way they can: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/things-the-nra-blamed-for-the-sandy-hook-massacrequote:1. The Media So he was babbling all this incoherent lying garbage right in the middle of another mass murder shooting. His solution of course is 'BUY MORE GUNS! GUNS GUNS GUNS! BUY MORE OF THEM! BUY A LOT OF THEM!" I would ask how he sleeps at night but I already know: On piles of money. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 21, 2012 |
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Dec 21, 2012 22:44
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Amused to Death posted:You have got to be kidding me If the 3 state troopers that got shot had an armed security guard travelling with them, this could have been prevented!
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Dec 21, 2012 23:06
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A Intimate Rimjobs posted:If the 3 state troopers that got shot had an armed security guard travelling with them, this could have been prevented! Clearly we need to put an armed, concealed carry certified schoolteacher with every policeman. This will solve the problem of lunatics, fired up by violent music videos, shooting police officers! 
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Dec 21, 2012 23:29
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Why don't they save money: instead of hiring more teachers to protect state troopers, they could just arm the state troopers with gu- oh wait.
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Amused to Death posted:Remember Charlotte Allen who said Sandy Hook was because of women and all that femininity in the school? Well she's doubling down, and also blaming not letting kids bully each other The most insane thing about this is that the male dominated society we lie in discourages men from working in elementary schools because looking after kids is not manly and "women's work." This is the same person who 3 weeks ago would have wondered why a man took a 4th grade teacher job. In a society with actual equality, you'd actually seem more men in these schools. Not that that would have done anything but add more male names to the death toll. Patriarchy hurts everyone.
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Dec 21, 2012 23:32
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Sydney Bottocks posted:What was going on while the NRA was taking us back to the 1990s? Oh, not much: gently caress I am from Altoona. The saddest irony is that it is pretty heavy NRA country.
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Dec 21, 2012 23:34
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Peven Stan posted:Yeah but a six to nine year old is about the size of a zergling, so in numbers they could've rushed the shooter and clawed him to death, although they would've lost many kids in the process. Hm, now there's an idea... Okay, new plan. Produce more children and strap knives to their hands.
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Dec 21, 2012 23:44
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:gently caress I am from Altoona. The saddest irony is that it is pretty heavy NRA country.
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Dec 21, 2012 23:49
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Holy hell, guy on Hardball right now doubling down on guns in schools. Not security guards, every teacher should be required to be trained and armed. He'd also pull his kid out of a class where the teacher wasn't armed.
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Dec 21, 2012 23:52
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Pander posted:How is that ironic? I'd label it something closer to "predictable". The NRA declaring that more guns mean more safety while a heavily pro-NRA area has a major gun related violent event simultaneously is the very definition of irony. Amused to Death posted:Holy hell, guy on Hardball right now doubling down on guns in schools. Not security guards, every teacher should be required to be trained and armed. He'd also pull his kid out of a class where the teacher wasn't armed. A: Hardball still exists? B: As I said earlier, I would love to know how these small government conservatives would pay for the massive increase in spending that arming, training, and supplying 7.2 million teachers would cost.
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Dec 21, 2012 23:53
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The union strikes would definitely get a lot more interesting with what is essentially a small army, who are trained and equipped.
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Dec 22, 2012 00:06
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:A: Hardball still exists? Not only does it still exist, the same episode gets shown twice in a three-hour span (once live at 5 PM, then a re-run of the 5PM edition at 7 PM), for those who just can't get their fill of Chris Matthews yelling at someone.  quote:B: As I said earlier, I would love to know how these small government conservatives would pay for the massive increase in spending that arming, training, and supplying 7.2 million teachers would cost. Clearly the answer is to move the oversight of teachers out from under the Department of Education and over to the Department of Defense. 
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Dec 22, 2012 00:17
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Clearly the answer is to move the oversight of teachers out from under the Department of Education and over to the Department of Defense. It'd be a neat way to get Republicans on board with ever spending any money on public schooling ever.
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Dec 22, 2012 00:18
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 Paying teachers! That's a good one!Obviously we will contract out security services to the lowest bidder, who assure us their employees have to pass extensive (yet surprisingly affordable) screening and training.
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Dec 22, 2012 00:20
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Doc Hawkins posted:
When the first black parent is shot 32 times for suspiciously trying to bring their child the backpack they left at home, it will just be the price of freedom.
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Dec 22, 2012 00:22
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Doc Hawkins posted:
Mandate that every teacher obtain a concealed carry license and carry a gun at work at all times. Make the teacher responsible for the costs of the license and the gun. Come on folks get it together, get some free market in there and this is totally going to work.
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Dec 22, 2012 00:58
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Orange Devil posted:Mandate that every teacher obtain a concealed carry license and carry a gun at work at all times. Make the teacher responsible for the costs of the license and the gun. Remember that one bumbling teacher in every high school? The one who you could prank, or who could not discipline the class, or would leave out important documents so students could steal or copy them? Imagine him trying to responsibly have a gun.
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Dec 22, 2012 01:01
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:Remember that one bumbling teacher in every high school? The one who you could prank, or who could not discipline the class, or would leave out important documents so students could steal or copy them? Brave new world.
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Amused to Death posted:Holy hell, guy on Hardball right now doubling down on guns in schools. Not security guards, every teacher should be required to be trained and armed. He'd also pull his kid out of a class where the teacher wasn't armed. We must BUY GUNS to protect ourselves from people who BUY GUNS to protect themselves from people who BUY GUNS to protect themselves from people who BUY GUNS to protect themselves from people who BUY GUNS BUY GUNS BUY GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS
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Schools need to be surrounded by fields of self-healing landmines. The second line of defense should be a whole lot of dragons. 
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So did you all get a kick out of how he blamed Mortal Kombat, American Psycho, and Natural Born Killers - but then rambled about the  howwible inaccurwacies the media states about the technical specifications of firearms?After that disaster of a speech, I drew that senile old fart:  G-rated Gun Fairy wants us all to be safe with less 'moral failing' fictional violence and more guns. 
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Dec 22, 2012 01:07
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Pander posted:Or 90% of gym teachers/football coaches. Ahahahahaha loving hell
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Dec 22, 2012 01:11
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No that's totally logically consistent. He doesn't have a problem with modern video games because their physics engines are accurate enough to approximate real killing. They don't misinform everyone like the media does. Not that fake glorified killing found in MK, GTA, and movies that aren't about the military.
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wixard posted:No that's totally logically consistent. He doesn't have a problem with modern video games because their physics engines are accurate enough to approximate real killing. They don't misinform everyone like the media does. Not that fake glorified killing found in MK, GTA, and movies that aren't about the military. Yes and that American Psycho and Natural Born Killers stuff that clearly isn't an anti-gun anti-violence satire of violence in entertainment and culture or anything. Funny how he picked two movies that are satire which mock the violent culture of the right wing out of all the movies he could have picked.
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Snoggle posted:Schools need to be surrounded by fields of self-healing landmines. The second line of defense should be a whole lot of dragons. Clearly we did not think this through. Obviously it would be fiscally irresponsible to burden the American taxpayer with arming and training the american teaching corps for hallway combat. That is why I feel we should institute the 'School Health And Order Licensing Integration Network' Act, or as it will be more commonly known the SHAOLIN Act. Buddhist Monks are simultaneously highly trained warriors, pacifists, and anti-materialists. It is my proposal that each school should have its own Shaolin temple on the grounds, so in the case of school violence, these men can perform their spectacular Ki fueled Kung Fu to disable shooters with dazzling aerial maneuvers and hadokens. These bald and zen warriors would operate at no cost to the school districts they protect, and would require only meager sustenance and a giant buddha statue to protect/worship.
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:Clearly we did not think this through. Obviously it would be fiscally irresponsible to burden the American taxpayer with arming and training the american teaching corps for hallway combat. That is why I feel we should institute the 'School Health And Order Licensing Integration Network' Act, or as it will be more commonly known the SHAOLIN Act. Yeah Lapierre would totally go super sayan and goku attack the school shooter and do a backflip and a hand-stand and a million punches if he was there.
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Spacedad posted:Yeah Lapierre would totally go super sayan and goku attack the school shooter and do a backflip and a hand-stand and a million punches if he was there. If there is not a marker drawing of Lapierre with Super Sayan hair in like an hour you will have broken my heart.
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To me, if you want the best example of just how out of touch the NRA is, look no further than the fact that not only did they cite the same video games and movies they like to cite after every mass shooting since Columbine, but they also cited music videos. Music videos. Yes. Clearly there are too many violent, degrading music videos on MTV nowadays. Why, I can't remember the last time I turned on MTV and wasn't confronted with thousands upon thousands of horribly violent music videos. If there's one thing you can't say, it's that MTV doesn't play music videos anymore.  The only way the NRA could have sounded any more like old people railing against poo poo they know absolutely nothing about is if they'd also have blamed "those dadgum Rob Liefeld comic book characters" for gun violence.
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:If there is not a marker drawing of Lapierre with Super Sayan hair in like an hour you will have broken my heart. I'll get right on that. I think my favorite part was how after he blamed fictional violence for creating an immoral culture where people blur fiction with reality, he stated, 'the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun' like he was describing the plot of some children's cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians TV show from the 50s.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:The only way the NRA could have sounded any more like old people railing against poo poo they know absolutely nothing about is if they'd also have blamed "those dadgum Rob Liefeld comic book characters" for gun violence. Clearly the violence in our culture is due to an album called 'F*** like a Beast' from a Rock'n'Roll group called 'WASP'. Spacedad posted:I think my favorite part was how after he blamed fictional violence for creating an immoral culture where people blur fiction with reality, he stated, 'the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun' like he was describing the plot of some children's cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians TV show from the 50s. NPR was talking about this earlier, but I am kind of uncomfortable with calling mentally ill people who resort to violence as "the bad guys." Assigning moral categories to severe dementia underlies a lot of the problems we have with mental health. I know it feels good to call terrible things evil and all, but I feel like we should probably be a little more mature about it.
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Spacedad posted:I'll get right on that. Why not? After all, it worked so well at Columbine! 
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