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BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot

Saint Celestine posted:

Why are Big Boys track destroying? Do they weigh that much more than a regular locomotive?

Big Boy: 1,250,000lbs
Standard AC4400CW: 486,000

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Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!
but the big boys have lots of wheels.

Steam locomotives are harder on rail than diesels. They hammer the track, both with acceleration impulses, and with the weight of the crossbars and wheels.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


Their drive wheels wheelbase is also much longer, meaning they will be working really hard to destroy each and every curve.

Do they have and 'blind' drive wheels?

McDeth
Jan 12, 2005
I would let a Big Boy destroy my track any day if I get to one in operation :smuggo:

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005
Does Big Boy require a blood sacrifice as a part of the resurrection ritual? It looks like it needs at least 12 virgins offered up.

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012

Nerobro posted:

but the big boys have lots of wheels.

Steam locomotives are harder on rail than diesels. They hammer the track, both with acceleration impulses, and with the weight of the crossbars and wheels.

This, from the sinusoidal torque.

They also have a bad habit of oiling the tracks and (when coal fired, at least) starting fires from embers. Oh, and killing their crew every time someone lets a crown sheet get hot.

Ron Pauls Friend
Jul 3, 2004
Well I guess we should scrap it then.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Ron Pauls Friend posted:

Well I guess we should scrap it then.

Its like one of the Elder Locomotive Gods, if you try to scrap it, it just gets angry and terrorizes the village.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

From what I've read UP won't let it run unless it is converted into an oil burner, but apparently that was considered back in the 60s and nobody thought it would work due to the type of coal the Big Boy's firebox was designed for. I don't know what has changed in that regard aside from maybe improved oil burners.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
I wonder if a natural gas conversion would work. That's a scary/awesome thought; a locomotive that big hauling around a huge tank of CNG. Though I guess that stuff is probably already shipped via rail so it's not that big of a deal.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

From what I've read UP won't let it run unless it is converted into an oil burner, but apparently that was considered back in the 60s and nobody thought it would work due to the type of coal the Big Boy's firebox was designed for. I don't know what has changed in that regard aside from maybe improved oil burners.

I thought they DID make one?

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

CommieGIR posted:

I thought they DID make one?

Actually you may be right about that, if so it must have had problems. I know I read an article about the problems with such a plan at some point. I don't recall details though.

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners
I've got a phone interview with NS for a transportation manager trainee job. Even though the job probably sucks, I'm pretty excited about not getting told to fuckoff straight up by NS for the first time.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

I haven't gotten a chance to drive this yet but I hear it's the best thing ever (it's in a mine 4850 feet below ground).

Hopefully next shift I'm up here I'll get to train on it :allears:

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I love the faux bloodstain on the rear deck edge.

Das Volk
Nov 19, 2002

by Cyrano4747

kastein posted:

I love the faux bloodstain on the rear deck edge.

Who says it's fake? :ohdear:

bytebark
Sep 26, 2004

I hate Illinois Nazis

Mr. Despair posted:

I haven't gotten a chance to drive this yet but I hear it's the best thing ever (it's in a mine 4850 feet below ground).

Hopefully next shift I'm up here I'll get to train on it :allears:



Be glad you're not working in Albania: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unhXEQQk8G8

Brother Jonathan
Jun 23, 2008

bytebark posted:

Be glad you're not working in Albania: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unhXEQQk8G8

So instead of a pantograph, they just gave a guy a metal rod and rubber gloves.

:psyduck:

And that's interesting rail switching going on.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
These kids kick rear end and I wish I was them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPu3WJ9xuBY

I don't think they're going to get run over by a real train anytime soon by the look of those tracks.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
They're in/near my county. I had no idea any of those ancient Northwestern Pacific rail lines were still in remotely usable condition.

Axim
Dec 21, 2004

sheeeeeeeeit
Brno, Czech Republic, saw this on another site and wanted to repost it here. Seems awesome to me.

Only registered members can see post attachments!

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
:toot: :toot:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3513877&pagenumber=44#post410717178
Soyuz rollout, launch today at Baikonur, Kazakhstan temperature is a high of -17c.


Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

Man those are lovely pictures.

Seems so much more logical than giant tracked beasts.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

I always love that disparity between the American and Russian space programs.

:911:"We build our rocket inside a building tall enough to have its own weather, on top of a launch pad powered by 5000 horsepower and the worlds largest sets of tracks, which travels from the building to the launchpad on a custom road paved with special rocks so they don't spark."
:ussr:"We put ours on train and launch from hole in ground."

Yes, yes, I know, stable ground vs. FL coastal swamp and all that.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


It's not like it's a normal railway. It's actually pretty darn similar to the US setup, just on rails instead of tracks.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

Advent Horizon posted:

It's not like it's a normal railway. It's actually pretty darn similar to the US setup, just on rails instead of tracks.

Most of the railways there are pretty much 'normal' of course they would be super heavy duty but for the soyuz it's normally one or two locos pushing it around. The N1 moon rocket mover is what you are thinking of being similar to NASAs Crawler.

That was a monster, towed by four locos on two tracks. The russian way of rolling something out horizontally then lifting it into position was faster then NASAs crawler, which back then in the cold (-17c is the expected high for the Soyuz launch in 45 minutes) was probably better for everybody to get it to the pad ASAP.







N1 moon rocket rollout


The vehicle transporter moving the Soviet shuttle Buran and it's Enrgia booster to the launch pad.

Boomer The Cannon
Oct 27, 2011

Gotta see it live!


So who mentioned G-scale trains?
http://binged.it/12FDj4v
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHRU_QOungw

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.
http://youtu.be/6xSzU0oM4mM

Kinda neat! Closed tube station.

Brother Jonathan
Jun 23, 2008
Speaking of model railroading, I'm sure many of you will have seen the 1978 film Model Railroading Unlimited. Most of it is silly, but I like the ten-minute "action" sequence at the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDl8aOoaXcU&t=553s

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

When I have a ton of extra money and a big yard I so want to do this. So...when I'm about 70?

In fact, I still have a lot of n-gauge stuff from when I was a kid. Hmm.


InterceptorV8 posted:

http://youtu.be/6xSzU0oM4mM

Kinda neat! Closed tube station.

I loved abandoned buildings, especially things like subways.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

CharlesM posted:

I loved abandoned buildings, especially things like subways.

You've probably seen this, and its been posted in this thread years ago I think, but this is a great read on abandoned Paris subway tunnels/stations.

http://sleepycity.net/posts/252/Demolition_of_the_Paris_Metro

bytebark
Sep 26, 2004

I hate Illinois Nazis
The latest trains/destruction video to go viral: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yBr-H2yskM

Log082
Nov 8, 2008



Give me a few hours, I'll have some pictures of my Christmas trains set up.

Edit: Trains are up, pictures will have to wait until better lighting tomorrow.

Anyone know anything about track cleaning cars? Some of my track has a bit of oxidation, and it makes the lights flicker on my second Whitepass when I run them both pulling the same train. Of course, that's also partly due to how much power they draw...

Log082 fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Dec 22, 2012

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

bytebark posted:

The latest trains/destruction video to go viral: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yBr-H2yskM

"Holy poo poo" is right.

Brother Jonathan
Jun 23, 2008

bytebark posted:

The latest trains/destruction video to go viral: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yBr-H2yskM

"While out doing some very exciting train spotting - yawn - this onlooker caught some truly amazing up close footage of a landslide derailing a train."

SucidalMike gets a down-vote from me for that dig against railfans. :argh: Oh, and he can't spell his own name.

Landslide Derails Train. This is the ORIGINAL video. This gets my up-vote.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Brother Jonathan posted:

"While out doing some very exciting train spotting - yawn - this onlooker caught some truly amazing up close footage of a landslide derailing a train."

SucidalMike gets a down-vote from me for that dig against railfans. :argh: Oh, and he can't spell his own name.

Landslide Derails Train. This is the ORIGINAL video. This gets my up-vote.

Why do people hold their phones vertically when recording? :argh:

Brother Jonathan
Jun 23, 2008

EightBit posted:

Why do people hold their phones vertically when recording? :argh:

Especially when recording something like a train which is oriented kind of like, you know, horizontally and stuff.

Unless he planned for that landslide to happen. :tinfoil:

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

Brother Jonathan posted:

Speaking of model railroading, I'm sure many of you will have seen the 1978 film Model Railroading Unlimited. Most of it is silly, but I like the ten-minute "action" sequence at the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDl8aOoaXcU&t=553s
Now that is just zany. Also apparently Ward Kimball is the host of this. That man LOVED his trains.

Speaking of which, did anyone ever watch a program called Tracks Ahead on PBS back in the mid-90s? Kimball was one of the hosts and I remember him standing in front of one of the locomotives from his own personal railroad. I don't recall much but I do remember one segment on the ICE in Germany and some model railroad built in a disused bowling alley or something.

Interestingly enough, I was channel flipping once and saw it on the schedule for a PBS affiliate. They made a new season as recent as last year or so.

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006

Zeether posted:

Speaking of which, did anyone ever watch a program called Tracks Ahead on PBS back in the mid-90s?
Check your PBS sub channels- I watched a little bit of an episode of that (don't know how recent) this afternoon.

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Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

nmfree posted:

Check your PBS sub channels- I watched a little bit of an episode of that (don't know how recent) this afternoon.
The schedule for WUCF-TV in Central Florida definitely had it at one point. I really want to try to watch the old Kimball episodes though, but apparently they repackaged them with a different host.

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