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Samopsa posted:He should be sitting in the apartment. Before the assault team moves in you should be able to speak to him. Do not exit the apartment through the window if you want him to survive. He's not in there. Not even in the secret room behind the bookcase. When I first spoke with him, I came down from the roof, entered through the window and left through the window and took the fire escape down. I returned by pushing some crates so I could reach the fire escape. The chair he was sitting in is vacant. Thank you for at least confirming that this is a bug. I guess not leaving through the front door the first time bugged the game out? I guess I have to start the mission over. EDIT: That worked. Now all I have to do is see if I can fight my way out of the hotel and keep us both alive. Seriously, you can fight, but you can't climb a few steps down a ladder? *** Some doors have a Strength listed, which implies that I can break them down and not waste precious lockpicks, but how can I break a door down? Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Dec 22, 2012 |
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qntm posted:You can even just run away from Gunther entirely. It's possible to knock out Gunther but by god it takes forever. Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Some doors have a Strength listed, which implies that I can break them down and not waste precious lockpicks, but how can I break a door down? Generally by having the strength aug, Dragon's Tooth, explosives, or having master level in Rifles.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Some doors have a Strength listed, which implies that I can break them down and not waste precious lockpicks, but how can I break a door down? Just to make things clearer, you can attack doors like crates or any other breakable objects, but the higher level strengths require explosives or high damage weapons. Always great to see someone playing Deus Ex for the first time - how spoiled are you?
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:EDIT: That worked. Now all I have to do is see if I can fight my way out of the hotel and keep us both alive. Seriously, you can fight, but you can't climb a few steps down a ladder? The only thing that kills Paul is running out the window (or running out the window without killing the soldiers if you have biomod installed). Nothing else will kill him.
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qntm posted:You can even just run away from Gunther entirely. I thought you needed to grab whatever it is on the computer in that room. Bit difficult to do that with a massive German machine-man plasma blasting you to death, surely? And how does the conversation with Walton Simons go if you do manage to evade him? Does Simons assume you killed him?
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Daktar posted:I thought you needed to grab whatever it is on the computer in that room. Bit difficult to do that with a massive German machine-man plasma blasting you to death, surely? Game world pauses while you're using computers (or hacking them) so it's not a problem. quote:And how does the conversation with Walton Simons go if you do manage to evade him? Does Simons assume you killed him? IIRC it only triggers after you killed Hermann and downloaded the info.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:The only thing that kills Paul is running out the window (or running out the window without killing the soldiers if you have biomod installed). Nothing else will kill him. Seriously. If you hide in the closet you can have big bro do all the work for you it's insane how that setpiece is designed
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Semiru posted:Just to make things clearer, you can attack doors like crates or any other breakable objects, but the higher level strengths require explosives or high damage weapons. Uh, well like three posts above someone just said you have to fight Anna and Gunther, but since I've just turned traitor to UNATCO, it's no longer a huge spoiler. Other than that I know very little.
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Anyone have a new link to the Fixer? Installing on a new machine and the link in the OP 404's.
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Rosoboronexport posted:Game world pauses while you're using computers (or hacking them) so it's not a problem. I might be crazy but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. I know I've activated turrets against enemies and watched them get mowed down through the security camera screen, and I think I remember being killed by the bot while logged into the computer in front of the statue when I ran to hack it without taking the bot out first.
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It pauses in Vanilla, but not in Biomod or Shifter, one of the two.
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Yeah you wouldn't be able to murder dudes with turrets if the game world paused, also I distinctly remember having to dart in an out of shadows to hack a computer in the sewers beneath Hell's Kitchen. What was up with that area, anyways? I mean it makes sense once you know everything about the story but it seems kind of out of place at the time.
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It most certainly doesn't pause in vanilla, I can distinctly remember being killed while hacking in vanilla.
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Electric Pope posted:It most certainly doesn't pause in vanilla, I can distinctly remember being killed while hacking in vanilla.
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DrPaper posted:Anyone have a new link to the Fixer? Installing on a new machine and the link in the OP 404's. http://web.archive.org/web/20110626003937/http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/
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Geight posted:Yeah you wouldn't be able to murder dudes with turrets if the game world paused, also I distinctly remember having to dart in an out of shadows to hack a computer in the sewers beneath Hell's Kitchen. Deus Ex was wonderful for how much stuff was available to be discovered by those who dug a little deeper; that area was probably just meant for foreshadowing. Actually, the MJ12 sewer base was the first point in the game when I became cognizant of that silly constant in the Deus Ex universe. At least in the first two games, as soon as your character learns of an organization with a name (up to and including super-secret world-dominating organizations) they immediately roll out platoons of guards with distinct, easily recognizable uniforms who operate in public and issue deadly force. I always had a laugh imagining some poor shmuck suddenly dealing with armed Majestic 12 conscripts or those heavily aug'd bald Illuminati soldiers in IW suddenly shooting up street outside their apartment building.
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Whenever I loot a downed enemy, I get stuff of their body but they also drop their weapon underneath themselves, so I have to move the body in order to get their weapon. Is this normal or a consequence of Biomod/Shifter? Come to think it, it might only do that with weapons I already have, in which case do I even need to pick up an extra 10mm pistol? Do I get more ammo for doing so?
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Geight posted:Yeah you wouldn't be able to murder dudes with turrets if the game world paused, also I distinctly remember having to dart in an out of shadows to hack a computer in the sewers beneath Hell's Kitchen. Smuggler will send you down there to rescue Ford Schick, which is why you might know to look for it. Unless your question is "why is there a giant shadow organization operating a base in the sewers underneath Hell's Kitchen" in which case I'm sorry, I don't know.
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C-Euro posted:Whenever I loot a downed enemy, I get stuff of their body but they also drop their weapon underneath themselves, so I have to move the body in order to get their weapon. Is this normal or a consequence of Biomod/Shifter? Come to think it, it might only do that with weapons I already have, in which case do I even need to pick up an extra 10mm etc.? Do I get more ammo for doing so? This is a Shifter feature, in the vanilla game you would pick up extra weapons if you had inventory space so you'd spend most of the game having to dump a bunch of combat knives everywhere. Picking up an redundant firearm does give you the ammo.
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The reason it drops everything on the ground is because in Vanilla Deus Ex you couldn't pick up a body to move it unless it had an empty inventory since the game couldn't tell the difference between looting and grabbing. A very odd oversight
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Little Blue Couch posted:Smuggler will send you down there to rescue Ford Schick, which is why you might know to look for it. Unless your question is "why is there a giant shadow organization operating a base in the sewers underneath Hell's Kitchen" in which case I'm sorry, I don't know. Yeah that was the question, I don't think you can actually get down there without Smuggler sending you, on account of all the grates being inf-inf locked doors. I'm surprised Alex doesn't trip some sort of "knows too much, axe this guy" alarm when he says that he's gonna try to find out some info about the troops down there.
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Geight posted:I'm surprised Alex doesn't trip some sort of "knows too much, axe this guy" alarm when he says that he's gonna try to find out some info about the troops down there.
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Hm? No I mean like, he says he's gonna try to investigate the MJ12 troops, I'm just surprised that with their stranglehold on the net they didn't have some sort of automatic alarm for anyone trying to look up details about them.
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Oh gotcha, I misunderstood. I guess you should either assume Alex is good enough to hide his tracks, or that he's not searching on public communications networks when he says that. 
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Well he's good enough to cover for you if you take out Anna on the plane, so I guess he's just the best at what he does. That encounter was funny for me, because before that nothing really seemed to challenge my rifle-wielding sneaky baton-ing Denton. But she killed me again and again until I took a modern approach and slapped a ballistic vest on and hit her with the double-tap noscope.  I piled on basically every weapon augment the game would allow onto my sniper rifle, it's a shame that while scoped-in it seems like only your skill reduces the sway, not accuracy upgrades.
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Geight posted:I piled on basically every weapon augment the game would allow onto my sniper rifle, it's a shame that while scoped-in it seems like only your skill reduces the sway, not accuracy upgrades.
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Is the stealth pistol you get after the first mission worth anything? I stuffed all the mods I found on Liberty Island into my 10mm, now suddenly I have this other pistol that is maybe better. Or is this a game where any weapon is just as viable as any other, if used properly?
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C-Euro posted:Is the stealth pistol you get after the first mission worth anything? C-Euro posted:Or is this a game where any weapon is just as viable as any other, if used properly? If you're good enough you can make anything work. Despite having played this game for 10 years I only found out the other week that you can use Pepper Spray to get past laser tripwires, for example.
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C-Euro posted:Is the stealth pistol you get after the first mission worth anything? I stuffed all the mods I found on Liberty Island into my 10mm, now suddenly I have this other pistol that is maybe better. Or is this a game where any weapon is just as viable as any other, if used properly? You can't silence the 10mm, so even if it's way weaker than the 10mm, the stealth pistol is what I always use. It's up to you and your playstyle, though - the 10mm is much better if you're playing this as an FPS. Either gun will be godly in its chosen role by the time you max pistols and fully upgrade it.
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Edward Malus posted:Despite having played this game for 10 years I only found out the other week that you can use Pepper Spray to get past laser tripwires, for example. Wait, what? 
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Doesn't either Biomod or Shifter break that?
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From my very first playthrough I always ditched the regular pistol in favour of the stealth. Its slightly less powerful but a headshots a headshot. A silent headshot.
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Geight posted:What was up with that area, anyways? I mean it makes sense once you know everything about the story but it seems kind of out of place at the time. I think the idea was that it was a dry run for the actual large-scale viral infection carried on the PRCS Wall Cloud.
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Witchfinder General posted:Guns? You guys are animals I've actually been having a lot of fun taking people out with the mini-crossbow + tranq darts, but I'm too chickenshit to sneak up on guys with the baton in most cases. Stealth in this game is fun, but is there a way to toggle sneaking on/off the way you can toggle walk/run? E: Any point in hanging onto the Crowbar if I have a Baton? I only really use the Crowbar for busting open crates and both weapons can do so in one hit. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Dec 27, 2012 |
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Yes, you can toggle crouch, there is an option for it. There is no 'stealth' mode: just crouch.
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Pope Guilty posted:Wait, what? It's in the wiki, no less. Apparently it only works on some lasers (the blue ones, as far as I can gather), but I haven't got around to reinstalling to try it out yet.
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Aaaaaaa this game is rad but there's so much to explore and do that every time I leave an area I feel like I'm missing something. And, based on a FAQ, I've missed two augmentation canisters already (in Castle Clinton and the NSF Warehouse in the city) and don't know how to go back and get them, if I even can  Is it worth it to start over? I'm not that far and I could probably spend my skill points and weapon mods a bit better too (I get the feeling that accuracy mods and laser sight don't stack, that drat dot is all over the place).
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Once you enter a helicopter you cannot go back, basically. So those canisters are lost to you. It doesn't really matter much in the long run though. IIRC those augs are one of the worst (environmental/auqualung) and one of the best (speed/silent run), but they'll be available later on. You will get the speed/run one for free in the UNATCO HQ after you finish the next mission anyway. Basically, the best augs are speed enhancement and regeneration, they open up a lot of areas and make combat way more easy. They are gotten for free at UNATCO HQ after mission 4 (airfield) and mission 5 (secret base). For laser/accuracy: it does stack in shifter/biomod, not in vanilla. However, only skill levels really help in reducing sway, accuracy mods have a small effect.
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C-Euro posted:based on a FAQ What a shame.
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